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#100419 - 07/30/12 01:49 AM Electrolysis for children ?
Fairygirl Offline
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Hi there, Im new here but have been reading on the site for a while.

I have two beautiful daughters - nearly 7 and 4 years. Unfortunately they appear to have developed hypertrichosis at age 4. Nothing like this in the family. Both been tested for all sorts of things and the end result is that they have extra sensitive hair follicles or something like that frown I feel so sad for them.

7 year old - arms, full legs, bit on upper back, lots of fine long vellus hairs on face not too obvious except for the upper lip and her nose tip.

4 year old - arms, legs, back, shoulders, upper cheeks (eye brows sort of continue down)

Their faces worry me the most, especially my 7 year old. The vellus hairs on her nose tip are getting longer and longer. They are obvious to me especially on her side profile. The odd one is getting darker and she also seems to have a lot of nose hair inside her nose.

What to do when the time comes that its really a problem for her? Every day I am waiting for her to tell me that someone at school has noticed and teased her. No one seems to do electrolysis on children. I absolutely would not allow laser on her face at all after reading how it can react with vellus hairs. But surely with a numbing cream it could be attempted in small doses on a child? I dont want to start rubbing creams and lotions and potions on her face until she is a "suitable age" to do something more permanent. I just wonder why something permanent couldnt be started now and kept going through puberty to hopefully at least partially ease the problem. I have just started doing diathermy on my upper lip (which has hardly any hair there) to see how it feels and it honestly doesnt seem too bad.

Can anyone advise if there is a medical reason why children this age couldnt be helped if the situation required it? Does it make more hair grow for them later down the track or something? Is it just the pain factor? Im just not sure why if the child was happy to try it that it wouldnt be allowed?

Sorry if I am waffling on but I feel a bit desperate about the situation. Just feeling like no one will help them if it all gets out of hand ! Also hope this post is in the right place and acceptable !



Edited by Fairygirl (07/30/12 01:51 AM)

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#100420 - 07/30/12 02:16 AM Re: Electrolysis for children ? [Re: Fairygirl]
Michael Bono Offline

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"Unfortunately they appear to have developed hypertrichosis at age 4."

I suppose I'd want to ask who made the diagnosis? I’m wondering if you’re expressing your opinion, or an actual medical diagnosis?

At this point you should only be dealing with medical doctors who specialize in these areas. Your kids are 4 and 7? Absolutely NO laser or electrolysis!

I’m thinking about that mom who was giving her 10-year-old “Botox” injections so she would never have to worry about wrinkles. There is a time for electrolysis, but not at 4 and 7!

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#100421 - 07/30/12 02:22 AM Re: Electrolysis for children ? [Re: Michael Bono]
Fairygirl Offline
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Paediatric Endocronolgists, Doctor and Dermatologist have made the diagnosis not me. Yes, I realise it seems bad and honestly if I didnt have children like this and heard of another woman even suggesting this out loud I would have thought she was a monster. You really have to see my girls to realise the extent of it. The eldest one is already teased on a daily basis in summer for her legs and arms and Im just terrified the facial hair is going to take off and cause even more trouble for her.

Botox on a child and hair removal are two totally different things.

My query was, if the child was at a point that they wanted to try a permanent solution, was it possible.

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#100423 - 07/30/12 04:27 AM Re: Electrolysis for children ? [Re: Fairygirl]
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No! Please re-read Michael Bono's post. I agree 100%.
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#100424 - 07/30/12 05:33 AM Re: Electrolysis for children ? [Re: Hairadicator]
Fairygirl Offline
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And please let it be noted that never ever was I referring to my 4 year old getting electrolysis! I only meant that she has excess hair as well. I was only wondering if it was possible for pre-teens to have this done and if so what age? My daughters will have to be happy with maybe bleaching if things are a problem for them in years to come prior to permanent treatment as I do not like the idea of them shaving / waxing / creaming the delicate skin on their faces. I saw on Lucy Peters website that she had men / women / children listed as her clients which was what prompted my question.
Thanks

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#100425 - 07/30/12 06:36 AM Re: Electrolysis for children ? [Re: Fairygirl]
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I'm sure you can find electrologists who treat children.

The problem will be finding one who is among THE BEST in the field, because a child's skin deserves nothing less.

Depending on where you live this may or may not require extensive and expensive travel.

PS. When you're logged in there is a search field on the right hand side, in case you want to research a certain practitioner for example.

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#100427 - 07/30/12 06:59 AM Re: Electrolysis for children ? [Re: impossable]
Fairygirl Offline
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Thank you. I definitely wouldnt go near just anyone for this problem. We are in New Zealand and it seems every spa around is putting themselves out there as experts in electrolysis, laser and ipl which I know wouldnt be the case.

I havent discussed this with their dermatologist but when the time comes in the future Im hoping he will be able to point us in the right direction. I was thinking that it was possibly ok to treat girls aged 10 -12 if a doctor thought it was appropriate and only if it was really affecting my daughter's self esteem and she was mature enough to handle it.

I do appreciate any advice. Most posts are about girls having these issues at puberty and the permanent options are then available to them. I just really dont know what to do for my girls and I would hate to somehow make the problem worse! My 7 year old is a very shy sensitive girl and I hate the thought that she will be affected emotionally by this problem even though we play it down and tell her its only cosmetic and easily fixed when shes bigger.

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#100428 - 07/30/12 07:11 AM Re: Electrolysis for children ? [Re: impossable]
mhawkes Offline

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I am sure like most professions if you keep looking you will find someone who will do the 'job' for you. However the advice is not to treat children till they are teenagers and ready to make their on decisions.
In the meantime try not to let it become an issue. Coming from Scotland a lot of Celtic children develop dense vellus hair on their faces from a young age, especially if they have red hair. Mediterranean children can develop fairly strong hair on leg and back from a very young age. My beautiful Scottish red headed friend married a handsome Portuguese man, they have 3 most extraordinary beautiful girls all have had noticeable body hair and facial hair from a young age. The eldest is now 11 so far it not too concerned about. The day may come when it does become very upsetting for her until then there will be no need for any treatment.
I know you are worried about the teasing at school, and your intentions are good, but leave well alone for the time being.
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#100436 - 07/30/12 02:04 PM Re: Electrolysis for children ? [Re: mhawkes]
Michael Bono Offline

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Oh, Aorearoa!

Been there several times teaching electrolysis and know quite a few of the folks. Please contact Steve Flaunty in Wellington. He can point you in the right direction (physicians and electrologists). If you can't fine him, send me a PM.

Cheers!

(I did "everything" in NZL, except the Waitomo Caves ... going 100 meters straight down on a ROPE! Some of the guys in NZL are all adrenaline and testosterone ... not me! I'm scared!)

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#100438 - 07/30/12 02:22 PM Re: Electrolysis for children ? [Re: Michael Bono]
mhawkes Offline

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Michael, do you still do educational trips? I may be mistaken but I seem to remember you being over in the Uk when I was still in college about 20 years ago. Would be fantastic if you ever decide make a trip over again I know a number of electrologists who would be interested in hearing from you.

Mairi
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Member of the British Institute and Association of Electrolysis since 1993
Fully licensed by Argyll and Bute Council UK.
www.aeclinic.co.uk

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