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#105007 - 03/03/13 07:48 AM Re: Thanks for the tips [Re: Michael Bono]
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Originally Posted By: Michael Bono
Likewise, there was nothing in this entire thread worth reading.


Michael I think you have proven to casual readers what sort of person you are, so even if my results on hair removal are not worth reading, then at least your true agenda has been further exposed.


Edited by JohnSheff (03/03/13 08:49 AM)

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#105011 - 03/03/13 11:55 AM Re: Thanks for the tips [Re: Michael Bono]
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Originally Posted By: Michael Bono


Likewise, there was nothing in this entire thread worth reading.



As a woman who works inside and outside the home, who runs a business that generates sufficient benefits to provide work for 5 people, who feels empathy for people with hair problems who has wasted their money on poor laser or electrolysis, I enjoyed of each one of your words here. Thank you Michael!

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#105013 - 03/03/13 12:48 PM Re: Thanks for the tips [Re: ]
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As for you JohnSheff, do not worry too much, experience has taught me that when a person wants to undergo a laser treatment, nothing and nobody can make him/her change her/his mind, even if the failure is the most likely . Not even Michael, but at least he can sleep peacefully, he tried!

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#105014 - 03/03/13 12:58 PM Re: Thanks for the tips [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: depilacionelectr
As for you JohnSheff, do not worry too much, experience has taught me that when a person wants to undergo a laser treatment, nothing and nobody can make him/her change her/his mind, even if the failure is the most likely . Not even Michael, but at least he can sleep peacefully, he tried!


Yes, you both did your best to promote your old fashioned time consuming expensive treatments. But like you say most people are not convinced and will still undergo laser and enjoy the life changing results!

As a matter of interest Josefa, having seen my start picture in the other thread I started today. How many hours would the complete treatment have taken you, and at what cost. And over how many visits?






Edited by JohnSheff (03/03/13 01:09 PM)

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#105015 - 03/03/13 01:10 PM Re: Thanks for the tips [Re: JohnSheff]
depilacionelectr
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Originally Posted By: JohnSheff


and will still undergo laser and enjoy the life changing results!




..Or curse the day they did not hear the advice of a wise man.

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#105016 - 03/03/13 01:12 PM Re: Thanks for the tips [Re: JohnSheff]
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Originally Posted By: JohnSheff



As a matter of interest Josefa, having seen my start picture in the other thread I started today. How many hours would the complete treatment have taken you, and at what cost. And over how many visits?



Give me a few minutes to take a look ... again. smile

Edit: Josefa, I have included John Sheff's new thread here::

http://www.hairtell.com/forum/ubbthreads...html#Post105009


Edited by dfahey (03/03/13 02:06 PM)
Edit Reason: Added info

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#105018 - 03/03/13 01:52 PM Re: Thanks for the tips [Re: JohnSheff]
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On this website, for those that read carefully, you will see that the electrologists who have contributed here frequently, have said that laser reduction is helpful, Sheff . I actually saw Josefa's words on the AEA forum (closed to electrologists only) within the last two weeks when she responded to my question about the "climate of laser hair reduction in Spain" . She affirmed the benefits of laser for some cases. Mike Bono has quotes on this website as well with his positive observations and acceptance of laser. Just ask me sometime, what I have seen in my practice concerning laser hair reduction. I guarantee that you will hear a lot of positive and not so positive comments. I actually do referrals to laser specialists, when appropriate.

With that noted, when you are dealing with master electrologists like James, Michael and Josefa who can do large areas of hair removal with electrolysis and you have been on the other side , seeing former laser clients who have spent $8,000.01 to get large areas treated with bare minimum results with laser, then it is understandable why they (and myself, included) are very vocal about why electrolysis is the only hope one has to really end a person's hair problem.

There should be no arrogance toward the only method on earth, third planet from the sun, that truly brings life changing joy to many, where NO OTHER METHOD can. Your experience is yours, but for many, laser can't solve their hair problem. They need electrolysis. I think what riles many of us is the lack of respect and a lack of depth you are showing toward electrolysis. Your argument seems to center on "time-consuming" and "old-fashioned". How much time equals "time-consuming" to you and does that even matter if a hairy person has long, light, thin hair? Lasers can't "see" those types of hair, so where do they turn to?

Another thing, LaGirl is a consumer of hair removal (electrolysis) and hair reduction (laser) . She really does know what she is taking about from the consumer side of things and she has educated herself on the practitioner side of things very well. She has guided many here for years and has shown no bias towards either method. She just gives the facts, just as a machine spits out packages of candy bars. Who could fault that?

There are a lot if old things in this world that never go out of fashion and electrolysis is at the top of the list. . Arrogance is, too, but is much less helpful.
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#105020 - 03/03/13 02:04 PM Re: Thanks for the tips [Re: dfahey]
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Originally Posted By: dfahey
She just gives the facts, just as a machine spits out packages of candy bars. Who could fault that?

There are a lot if old things in this world that never go out of fashion and electrolysis is at the top of the list. . Arrogance is, too, but is much less helpful.


Hold on a second, she gave her "opinion" which is different from facts, and then in my case was proved wrong, she wasnt the only one. Anyway I believed her to be wrong at the time, having already had more laser treatments over larger areas than she has ever had! At this point I stopped posting and got on with my treatments. I return with proof that the advice I was given was not only wrong but biased, and this makes me arrogant?

Also let me once again highlight the fact that this whole topic is in the section called Laser.

But anyway, since you have chosen to reply to a topic outside of your specialism. Please tell me how long, how much and how often for the same results from electrolysis? Surely these arent difficult questions for professionals who earn a living providing such treatments?


Edited by JohnSheff (03/03/13 02:07 PM)

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#105021 - 03/03/13 02:09 PM Re: Thanks for the tips [Re: JohnSheff]
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Surely not. I will take a look as I am eating my delicious breakfast...... And respond soon.
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British Institute & Association of Electrolysis

http://www.electrolysis.co.uk/?page_id=16

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#105022 - 03/03/13 02:12 PM Re: Thanks for the tips [Re: dfahey]
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I hope you enjoy it, the breakfast that is. smile

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