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#104751 - 02/23/13 08:40 PM Re: Part II: Laurier [Re: Deanna Stovall]
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The "treatment" level of energy does not extend very far above the uninsulated portion of the tip Deanna, only 10 percent of that level is released to the upper root sheath. The upper sheath does not want to "give up" as it were, but that is not the true anchor point. That is taken care of down in the target area below.

This is why it is very important to understand the Kelly tip concept. While the Kelly tips have shown suprising pain reductions for shallow insertions, they are not intended for deep hairs like Dee's pic above. A full length standard tip is appropriate to get a good release with these deeper hairs. When the deeper ones are the exception instead of the rule, one can deal with them by displacing and firing again when the shorter Kelly tip is used.
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#104754 - 02/23/13 10:42 PM Re: Part II: Laurier [Re: Laurier]
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Mike, for me the Kelly tip concept was an easy one to grasp. I was questioning the ability of an insulated probe (even when a large portion is uninsulated - like that of the 5&6's -.055 insulation) to treat the hair with a single pulse. Remember, I am coming from being an advocate of gold probes. This makes sense though. I like the 10% explanation - I think that little bit of added energy would make a big difference on the release.
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#104756 - 02/23/13 11:46 PM Re: Part II: Laurier [Re: Deanna Stovall]
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That is exactly why my father put it there Deanna wink

The standard tips are in proportion to their respective tip diameters. .055" is also the exposed tip length for the .005 research proved that there was little need for the tips to be any longer. By the same token, the 2's and 3's both carry a .035" standard tip. The Kelly tips are called for when the follicle is shallow and the overall depth of the follicle is reduced to confine the treatment area back down where it needs to be.
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#104933 - 03/01/13 12:22 AM Re: Part II: Laurier [Re: Laurier]
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Trying to explain the new tips has been challenging indeed. Erika Frankle has a blog with a lot of good information on it and she has taken the time to put this information in a very user friendly way.

http://www.permanent-hair-removal-info.com/2013/02/28/laurier-electrolysis-probe-ibp/

For the readers here, You might want to explore her blog a bit. It constantly evolves and she gets input from a large number of professional electrologists. It is not a discussion forum like Hairtell but is a very good source of information. Stay tuned, like I said it evolves constantly.
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#105266 - 03/12/13 10:49 AM Re: Part II: Laurier [Re: Laurier]
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Great overview of the Laurier needle variations on the link above. Like I see, the offer is realy huge.

And I like that the needle with Kelly tip destroys the myth, that ONLY anagen hairs can be treated, which is still used by many electrologists to disinform their clients and to justify bad results they get from the treatments.


Edited by Miro (03/12/13 10:50 AM)
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#105444 - 03/17/13 02:28 PM Re: Part II: Laurier [Re: Miro]
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Please take a moment today in your Saint Patty's day celebrations to raise a glass to J. Laurier. He Invented the Laurier IBP and made it with his own hands from 1970 until just days before his passing in 2010. An accomplishment unequalled to this day.

J.Laurier Roy 1930 - March 17 2010

The greatest man I ever knew and the best friend I ever had.
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#105445 - 03/17/13 03:04 PM Re: Part II: Laurier [Re: Laurier]
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Hip! Hip! For J. Laurier O'Roy!

He really touched so many of our lives, both on the practitioner side and on the hairy consumer side and you keep his honor alive, Mike O'Roy, on this day and every day.

Love to you on this day of remembrance!

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#105481 - 03/18/13 07:13 PM Re: Part II: Laurier [Re: dfahey]
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Cheers to J. Laurier Roy!

I recently began using the Laurier needles because of all the wonderful things that have been posted here on Hairtell. They are by far the *** BEST *** needles I have used.

Thank you!
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#105611 - 03/22/13 06:35 PM Re: Part II: Laurier [Re: electrolysislady]
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I would like to invite everybody to have a look at our new website design. IMO Erika Frankle has done a masterful job and she specializes in web pages for electrologists. I provided her some information, she took the ball and ran with it. I can't say enough about her talent and her personal interest in the profession.Have a look and tell us what you think !

www.laurierinstruments.com
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#105614 - 03/22/13 07:37 PM Re: Part II: Laurier [Re: Laurier]
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Nice. The tapered needle is not mentioned. Do You want to drop these?
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