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#10597 - 05/06/02 05:41 PM Razor bump reduction
Andrea Offline
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The following pages discuss some products that can help reduce razor bumps/pseudofolliculitis barbae (PFB):

Hairfacts: Tend Skin

Hairfacts: Other products

[ May 06, 2002, 10:42 AM: Message edited by: Andrea ]

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#10598 - 05/06/02 05:45 PM Re: Razor bump reduction
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Another good overview:

skinsite.com on PFB

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#10599 - 05/07/02 02:53 AM Re: Razor bump reduction
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thank you much, Andrea.

Will check it out [Smile]

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#10600 - 05/08/02 08:52 AM Re: Razor bump reduction
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I have ordered Tend Skin and also the BumpFighter razor that is for black men.

I will let you all know my results.

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#10601 - 05/12/02 02:54 AM Re: Razor bump reduction
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Tend Skin works great. It can be used to prevent and treat ingrown hairs. For extremely stubborn ones, it may require some patience, maybe a week or two.

Once the hair gets close to the surface I prefer to lift it out with a needle sterilized with 91% rubbing alcohol. Then I yank it out with tweezers.

RJC 2001

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#10602 - 05/19/02 09:23 PM Re: Razor bump reduction
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Well I've used the Bump Fighter twice already and I can say I'm already impressed! It doesn't "feel" like shaving, and that red irritation along my neck line has really been reduced.

Bump Fighter may have just earned themselves a customer!

My Tend Skin should be in on monday, so I can start using that also. Glad to hear you had good results with that, RJC.

Next on my list is the Black Opal line of beard softeners/shaving gels, etc.

Anyone heard any opinions on Black Opal?

Oh, also somebody said they used Bikini Zone after epilating their chest and abs to prevent ingrowns.

[ May 19, 2002, 02:26 PM: Message edited by: Ted Striker ]

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#10603 - 05/19/02 09:32 PM Re: Razor bump reduction
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Oh, one more thing.

I've been using the Edge, Ultra Sensitive formula. This formula seems to be a copy of the Aveeno shaving gel, but it also has helped reduce irritation.

My next step will be to find a clear gel, (so I can see where I'm going) and a pre-shave beard softener, that's why I'm looking at Black Opal.

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#10604 - 05/19/02 10:38 PM Re: Razor bump reduction
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Glad the Edge has been helping!

Black Opal is a big seller for African-American men, so I expect it's pretty good. Haven't tried it myself... [Wink]

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#10605 - 05/23/02 11:00 PM Re: Razor bump reduction
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I started Tend Skin. It's been 48 hours but no change so far. That's okay, I am going to be patient with it, I don't expect results over night, I think that would be unrealistic.

I've got alot of really slow growing hairs on my chest and abs. hahaha I can just see those little black "dots" under the bumps, just waiting to bust out. But they take forever.

I've got other little bitty pink bumps with brand new hairs have popped out of, but the redness hasn't gone away yet. I hope those aren't scars or something!

One thing is that the directions say to use a cotton ball or cheese cloth to apply, but today I just applied the bottle directly to my skin and that seems more effective for saturating the skin. I felt like with the other methods that more product was going into the cloth or cotton than was going on my skin.

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#10606 - 05/24/02 01:57 AM Re: Razor bump reduction
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Definitely keep us up to date, Ted!

A couple of hints: Use enough to make the skin look wet. That is harder when using a cotton ball, which seems to soak a lot of it up.

Wash your hands when you're done, or your fingertips might peel a bit. I actually have to wear a plastic glove when I use it.

Scrub your skin lightly in the shower and use a moisturizer after. You'll find that a top layer of dead skin will probably peel off after a few days of use.

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#10607 - 05/24/02 07:13 AM Re: Razor bump reduction
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Andrea thanks for the tips! [Smile]

I was wondering about the scrubbing part, I was thinking to get a layer of dead skin off would help the tendskin get to where it needs to go and help it work better. Thanks for clearing that up for me. I'm going to use a washcloth in the morning.

I can say that after drenching my skin this morning, I'm already seeing the peeling you're talking about around some of the bumps, especially the really big ones. A couple of the big ones have gone flat, and gone from red or pink to white, and there is some flakes.

That's a positive.

We'll see what happens after two weeks!

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#10608 - 05/25/02 03:14 AM Re: Razor bump reduction
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I found that the best way to apply Tend Skin is with a sponge applicator like what you would use to paint something. It's something like a foam paint brush. It works great for covering large areas like the chest or legs.

Edge Pro Gel, tough beard formula also works very good and it is cheap. If you shave in the shower some body washes work very well. Suave Moisturizing Body Wash (white bottle) works great and is very cheap. Dove Body Wash is very good also.

If you're looking for a clear, non-foaming shave gel try Air Shave, which is also made by Tend-Skin. It works very well but is rather expensive.

RJC2001

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#10609 - 05/28/02 11:10 PM Re: Razor bump reduction
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Thanks RJC.

I think somebody mentioned this before, but my recommendation is to make sure you wear shorts while applying Tend Skin.

I spilled just like two drops on my nether region and GOOD LAWD did it BURRRRNNNNNNN... [Eek!] [Embarrassed]

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#10610 - 05/29/02 01:48 AM Re: Razor bump reduction
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It definitely hurts if you get any Tend Skin down there. That happened to me too and the pain was so bad I thought I was going to barf. Took about 15 minutes for the pain to subside.

Tend Skin may bleach clothes too so be careful. Also I don't know if this is common knowledge but Tend Skin also acts like a sunscreen. If you apply it as late as a day before you go out in the sun you will notice less tanning and or burning where you applied it. It acts like a SPF 4 to SPF 6.

RJC2001

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#10611 - 06/05/02 01:59 AM Re: Razor bump reduction
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Hi, everyone. I recently purchased the Emjoi Classic hair remover from QVC. It worked fine, but of course, they don't tell you about the bumps. I mostly got it to rid myself of this menopausal hair I am getting on my face--now my face is covered with bumps. Do they go away like regular pimples? I just ordered the Tend Skin, but last night I put OXY-10 on them! Help!

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#10612 - 06/05/02 02:27 AM Re: Razor bump reduction
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I thought that rotary epilators were not supposed to be used on facial hair. I could be mistaken though.

Tend Skin works great on ingrown hairs. Severely ingrown hairs will require some patience. If you can see the hair, lift it out with a needle and yank it out with tweezers. Sterilize the needle first with 91% rubbing alcohol.

RJC 2002

RC

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#10613 - 06/05/02 03:02 AM Re: Razor bump reduction
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Thanks RJC, and another question for everyone. I go to the tanning room about three times a week. Should I lay off the visits temporarily, or perhaps the heat will help? Thanks! Joan

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#10614 - 06/05/02 03:28 AM Re: Razor bump reduction
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quote:
Originally posted by RJC2001:
I thought that rotary epilators were not supposed to be used on facial hair. I could be mistaken though.

These devices should not be used on male facial hair, but there are rotary epilators designed to remove women's facial hair. My recommendation for further research would be the Braun Silk-epil Facial Hair Remover EF-20.

Tend Skin can also be great for drying up a blemish-- I had Mount St. Helebs about to erupt on my cheek the other day, but a Q-tip with a little Tend Skin cleared it up in about 30 hours! [Big Grin]

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#10615 - 06/05/02 03:35 AM Re: Razor bump reduction
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quote:
Originally posted by cushions88:
Hi, everyone. I recently purchased the Emjoi Classic hair remover from QVC. It worked fine, but of course, they don't tell you about the bumps. I mostly got it to rid myself of this menopausal hair I am getting on my face--now my face is covered with bumps. Do they go away like regular pimples? I just ordered the Tend Skin, but last night I put OXY-10 on them! Help!

You might also try a cool damp washcloth immediately after, followed by 100% pure aloe gel (not lotion or cream, and no additives like menthol).

Definitely avoid sun or tanning beds until your face has settled down. Also, avoid makeup unitl it's not red.

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#10616 - 06/05/02 09:48 AM Re: Razor bump reduction
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Hey Ted, I remember you from the Nisim boards. Did you stop using Kalo?

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#10617 - 06/06/02 04:11 AM Re: Razor bump reduction
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Andrea, Thank you for answering my questions. I did put aloe on it as soon as I noticed the bumps, and I did not wear make-up or go to the tanning room. I will let you know how the Tend-Skin works after I get it. You'll have a nice evening. Joan

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#10618 - 06/07/02 07:44 AM Re: Razor bump reduction
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Hmmmm I think I may have some trauma to my hair follicles. I can't tell whether these are all red from ingrowns or using an epilator for the past 6 months has damaged the follicles. I've stopped using the epilator for about 2 months now, but the red dots haven't gone away. I've used Tend Skin for a couple of weeks, but I don't how much results I'm seeing. Or maybe some of my hairs are just taking so long to bust through?

I definitley think I should go see a dermatologist and see what's up with this.

Hey Andrea,

How much do derms usually charge for a consultation? I don't have a health plan right now, are they going to tell me to get lost? (I have one for major emergencies but it doesn't cover office visits).

This blows. [Frown]

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#10619 - 06/07/02 07:51 AM Re: Razor bump reduction
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Malanagaster,

Yes I stopped using Kalo.

Now stop chasing me around the internet asking me about Kalo. [Big Grin]

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#10620 - 06/07/02 07:10 AM Re: Razor bump reduction
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Sorry Ted didn't mean to harass you, but I was just wondering if it stopped working for you or something?

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#10621 - 06/07/02 02:32 PM Re: Razor bump reduction
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Well it doesn't appear to have worked on me.

It did look like it was working when I was using it.

But I think I've damaged my skin from using the epilator, I've got alot of red dots on my stomach.

So now I'm letting all my hair grow out and am going to see a professional to get rid of these dots before I consider getting hair removed again.

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#10622 - 06/07/02 10:05 PM Re: Razor bump reduction
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That's a little unsettling for me, since I just purchased Kalo.

I hope most of the others reporting success aren't just seeing temporary results.

I should have known it was too good to be true.

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#10623 - 06/23/02 07:55 AM Re: Razor bump reduction
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quote:
Originally posted by Ted Striker:
Oh, one more thing.

I've been using the Edge, Ultra Sensitive formula. This formula seems to be a copy of the Aveeno shaving gel, but it also has helped reduce irritation.

My next step will be to find a clear gel, (so I can see where I'm going) and a pre-shave beard softener, that's why I'm looking at Black Opal.

Hi Ted,

I have this very product! It's totally clear, non-foaming shaving gel that's aloe vera based. You won't slice off a mole or other bump or blemish because you can clearly see what you're doing. I started my hair removal website because they stopped selling this product at my local drug store. I wrote to the company and they said the only way I could buy more was if I was "distributor". So to get some, I started a website. I then asked what else they had and added those items that to my site. Since starting, I have been appalled by the false claims and outright dangerous advice out there on shaving and hair removal methods. I'm so pleased to be able to add a link to Andrea's site. I'm sure you'll like the shave gel at: http://www.marsindustries.net
As a Plan B, you might try wetting your skin and using a nice layer of plain aloe vera gel. Just keep it wet while shaving. You can get this green gel from any drug store and it usually has some lidocaine. Use some afterwards to minimize any razor burn feel and promote skin repair. Of course, you'll have much better results with my stuff because it's made for shaving. I have a full beard and with white foam everwhere I never could get the edges straight and always ran over a mole or something. I also tried the gel on my chest and stomach and really liked that I could easliy find the spots I missed by running my non-shaving hand over the area with a little more shaving gel and the stubbles stood out and smooth areas were smooth. You can also safely shave daily and it's pretty quick.

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#10624 - 06/22/02 08:33 PM Re: Razor bump reduction
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Hey Maurice--

I checked out your site-- great to see a company that only sells legit products!

You are welcome to link to my sites, and please send your customers over here to talk about their experiences buying from your company.

Readers, I hope you'll let me know if you buy from here. The prices seem pretty good, but I don't have any feedback yet.

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#10625 - 06/23/02 01:29 PM Re: Razor bump reduction
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Thanks for the tips Maurice. I will bookmark your page and try some of that shave gel.

Does the electrolysis work well on ear hairs? Mine are really fine and light, but they do grow out pretty long. It's hard to see exactly where they are coming from. Don't you have to be able to see the hair follicle shaft to zap it? Or is just grabbing the hair with tweezers enough?

I do feel my skin, especially on the neck, has benefited from the Bumpfighter razor. It seems alot less red. There are still two spots on my neck where I still get a red spot.

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#10626 - 07/11/02 05:54 PM Re: Razor bump reduction
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i have been epilating my underarms and bikini area for about 3 months now. i'm finally getting the hang of it. but, i do get red bumps right afterward and often get a lot of ingrowns (i can't shave cuz the razor burn is incredible and no matter what, you can always see those black hairs underneath the skin... i'm really really pale). anyway, my question is about tend skin and how to apply it-- cuz i heard you're not supposed to exfoliate before or after applying it. so would the procedure be tend skin, epilate, tend skin again afterward then next morning exfoliate in shower, tend skin at night and continue that process?
also, what do you apply tend skin with? i read that andrea says you need to apply a lot of it... since it's so expensive, what is everyone applying it with? ALSO, and perhaps more importantly, every salon in my area that used to carry tend skin is now discontinuing it cuz of some fda recall and need for reformulations. so do you suggest i try something new that they carry and recommend or what? any ideas?
thanks a ton!
gg

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#10627 - 07/11/02 08:00 PM Re: Razor bump reduction
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Hi goodgirl101-- I discuss Tend Skin's problems with FDA here. I'll try to find out more about their current status.

I use Tend Skin immediately after epilating, and then after showers on following days. I find it is very helpful on ingrowns and helps exfoliate dead skin. I apply it with a cotton ball and put enough on to get the area wet.

Some consumers find it burns too much to use right after epilating. If this is true for you, you might try a milder product like Bikini Zone. Another option ios to cleanse the area with witch hazel followed by aloe gel. Don't use deodorant until the redness subsides.

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#10628 - 07/27/02 11:00 PM Re: Razor bump reduction
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My legs are extremely sensitive to shaving and waxing. I get immediate razor burn and wind up scratching myself raw. I've been using an electric razor, but you just don't get that same smooth effect. I was wondering if anyone out there know of any after, or before, shaving products that would help with this. I have tried so many creams and splashes for both males and females, but I just can't seem to get rid of this razorburn. Any info or suggestions would be great. Thanks!

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#10629 - 07/28/02 08:00 AM Re: Razor bump reduction
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Debra, you might check out this thread:

Hairtell: Shaving tips thread

The most common causes of razor burn are

dull blades
not enough moisture
too much pressure
too many passes with the razor

Check the link above for tips on how to avoid common problems.

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#10630 - 07/29/02 09:06 PM Re: Razor bump reduction
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how long does epilating last for you? i just started a new discussion about it... it only lasts 3 days or so for me. is this usual? will i have better results with waxing? (i'm talking pubic area here) sorry to be so vulgar. [Smile] thanks!

quote:
Originally posted by Andrea:
Hi goodgirl101-- I discuss Tend Skin's problems with FDA here. I'll try to find out more about their current status.

I use Tend Skin immediately after epilating, and then after showers on following days. I find it is very helpful on ingrowns and helps exfoliate dead skin. I apply it with a cotton ball and put enough on to get the area wet.

Some consumers find it burns too much to use right after epilating. If this is true for you, you might try a milder product like Bikini Zone. Another option ios to cleanse the area with witch hazel followed by aloe gel. Don't use deodorant until the redness subsides.


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#10631 - 07/30/02 05:25 AM Re: Razor bump reduction
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Goodgirl, epilating usually lasts a week or so before a see a few new hairs, which I'll shave until I have time to do another epilating session.

If you wish to talk about hair removal inside the bikini, please post in the mature topics forum.

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#10632 - 09/20/02 07:51 AM Re: Razor bump reduction
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I have heard about Kalo and was considering buying it, and perhaps even selling it!

But maybe I should have a look at your search function.

I will come back

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#10633 - 09/20/02 07:53 AM Re: Razor bump reduction
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Well, I did a search and found that Andrea sais to avoid Kalo Hair Inhibitor.
What about Kalo Ingrown Hair Treatment? [Confused]

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#10634 - 09/20/02 11:13 AM Re: Razor bump reduction
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phernand, I'm assuming from what I've read that Kalo's ingrown hai product is similar to Tend Skin, i.e. an alcohol-based aspirin solution (a type of beta-hydroxy acid). If so, it's probably fine. However, I urge consumers not to support companies that make unsubstantiated claims as Kalo does with their hair inhibitor.

Tend Skin is a great product to use and sell for ingrowns. Hair inhibitors have not demonstrated their claims with published data, so I suggest avoiding selling these products, as it might damage your business reputation in the long run.

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#10635 - 01/09/03 10:05 PM Re: Razor bump reduction
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Help me you guys, please?

I have had hideous razor bumps on my bikini area for years! This especially sucks because I have a nice stomach and I would like to wear a bikini.

I bought Tend Skin. Yesterday I tested a small area of my body with the Tend Skin, 3-4 hours later I waxed, and 30 minutes later I applied the Tend Skin. The redness disappeared. Later that day and night I applied the Tend Skin twice.

Today, I applied the Tend Skin early in the morning and I just applied it this afternoon. Its been almost 30 hours and I really don't think I'm seeing any results. What's going on? Someone please help me out! I hate these bumps! I've already tried everything under the sun!

thanks in advance

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#10636 - 01/14/03 07:45 AM Re: Razor bump reduction
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It may be your wax or the method you use to remove it. Irritation can be caused by reusing wax or strips, unclean working conditions, not preparing the area by showering or warming the skin, not putting down enough baby powder first, etc. I find that 100% aloe gel right after can help a lot, too.

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#10637 - 02/06/03 11:20 AM Re: Razor bump reduction
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Ok, here I go... Probably too much info, but I think I need to share.

I have extremeely sensitive skin, and bumps, dots, ingrown hairs, etc. are very intimate issues with me. I have tried nearly every product and method for hair removal and after-removal care. I finally found a regimen that works, and is based on proven concepts, rather than marketing hype and quackery.

First, it is important to understand where the bumps come from. When you remove hair, you necessarily irritate your skin, to some degree or another, resulting in inflamation. This is because hair is very tough, dead protein, and your skin is very fragile living tissue. The hairs were made to stay in, with a large bulb at their root for this purpose. Hair was also made to be resistant to cutting, abrasion, breaking, etc. In the case of body hair, this results in a permanent sponge, able to collect large amounts of sweat in order to attract members of the opposite sex. Yeah, I know, yuck. But that's what the biologist say.

So now, you need to apply a large amount of enrgy to the hair and surrounding skin in order to remove the hair. This is true of shaving, waxing, chemical depilation, lasers, IPL, elotrolosys, tweezing, abrasion, and any other method.

Beyond photoepilation (lasers or IPL), the method that is gentlest to the skin is shaving. What I've found is that the Gilette Mach 3 is the best method for shaving for a couple of reasons. First, the blades are very smooth and sharp, second, the gooey stuff that they put on the top and bottom of the blades is an excellent lubricant (I think it contains dimethicone and/or simethicone). The lube helps to stop dragging, and the sharp, smooth blades allow the razor to slice cleanly through the tough hair without yanking on the root.

If you decide to use a different brand of razor blade, make sure it is a good (expensive) one. Never use a disposable, and don't use the Schick flexible blade (it curves to fit your face)- the time I tried the Schick, it looked like my face was in a razor-blade factory explosion. Also, no matter what razor you use, make sure it is very sharp (new).

When I shave, I've found the best shaving cream is actully moisturizing shampoo (never use soap). I have bad luck with shaving creams, even "Ultra-sensitive Edge". The problem is that the shaving creams all contain either astringents, excessive emollients, or both. The moisturizing shampoo is much less irritating, but is still slick enough combined with the lubricating strips on the razor.

When shaving with a blade, as opposed to an electric shaver, try to shave with the grain. When you absolutely *must* shave against the grain, be very gentle. You might be left with some slight stubble, but this is better than ingrown hairs and infections.

I also use an electric shaver, more often than the blade. An electric shaver, if it's a good one, will be much gentler than a blade, but won't always get as close as a blade. I found that an oscillating "micro-screen" is the best type to use. I have a Norelco rotary that cost more than 100 dollars, and it doesn't compare to the microscreen. And I would never use a rotary on the very sensitive genital/bikini areas (save the money and use a broken bottle).

I also use pulling methods (waxing/sugaring), on occasion, but not as often as the electric shaver. Chemical depilitories are better than pulling methods as far as irritation/inflamation are concerned. Chemical depilitories can only be used once every several days without irritation.

As far as bump-fighters go, I have not found one that works at all. But here is my secret for stopping bumps and ingrown hairs:

Before I shave, wax, or use chemicals, I wash the area with Betadine. Betadine is water based version of old fashioned tincture of iodine (alchohol based). Betadine is the stuff that surgeons scrub with before surgery, but you can buy it at any drugstore. Also, after hair removal, I use the Betadine again, and somes iodine tincture. Iodine tincture actually is better, but it stains your skin for a few hours after use.

The reason that Betadine/iodine works for preventing bumps and inflamation is that a major cause of the inflamation is bacterial infection. No matter how clean you are, you have a wide variety of flora living on your skin and in your hair follicles. When you break the skin's surface, which you almost always do when removing hair, these external bacteria are introduced to a warm, nutrient rich place to grow (your blood and broken skin). So, kill the bacteria before you break the skin. Afterwards, apply Betadine/iodine again, so that you retain some residue to protect your skin afterwards - this is also important.

Now that the bacteria is absent, you will have much less inflamation. Without the inflamation (swelling), your new hairs won't have anything to "bite" into, allowing them to grow out, rather than in.

Bacteria is not the only thing that will cause inflamation, but it is the most common thing. Other causes of inflamation are perfumes, dyes, antiperspirants, deoderants, soap, dirt, oil and clothing. If you remove hair fom the bikini/genetal area, don't wear tight underwear the day or two afterwards. These items will also cause enough inflammation to promote ingrown hairs, as well as generally unhealthy skin.

This sounds like a lot to do, but it's really not once you settle into a regimen. And it's very inexpensive compared to all the other creams, potions and snake oil for sale out there. Also, I've used shampoo for years for my whole body, and it much more effective than soap for cleansing, and for the condition of my skin (shampoo is a detergent, as opposed to a soap). And the so-called "body shampoos" and liquid soaps are terrible as cleansers and leave skin dry and full of chemicals.

The bottom line is, be as gentle to your skin as you can when removing hair, and make sure you remove the bacteria as well. This is the only methodology that I've found that works. If you do get small bumps, they will go away in a few days.

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#10638 - 02/06/03 06:08 PM Re: Razor bump reduction
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This is a first-rate report! [Cool]

Male facial hair takes the most energy of all to remove, which is why it's such a stress test. Add to that a little curl to the hairs, an improper razor or technique, and you have a recipe for serious inflammation at the least, and terrible ingrowns and infections at the worst.

While it doesn't work for everyone, beta-hydroxy acids like Tend Skin lead the way in helping with ingrowns and razor bumps. These products are usually alcohol and aspirin, both of which kill bacteria and appear to cause the skin to exfoliate. The effect of beta-hydroxy acids on skin and hair structures is not completely known yet, but they may have other benefits for reducing ingrowns as well. Something to consider if you have had a lot of problems.

The emphasis of the post above-- work clean with fresh blades-- cannot be stressed enough. In some cases it's enough.

There are a few other great tips in this section, including using sib=ngle blades or wire-wrapped blades, which have been useful for others. There's going to be some trial and error vefore you find a system that works best for you, but most of the best ways are discussed in this post and others. Good luck!

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#10639 - 03/08/03 05:30 PM Re: Razor bump reduction
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If you're looking for a clear, non-foaming shave gel try Air Shave, which is also made by Tend-Skin. It works very well but is rather expensive.

RJC2001

For those who are on a serious budget, clear personal lubricants like "Astro-glide" can be used for this purpose.

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Does the electrolysis work well on ear hairs? Mine are really fine and light, but they do grow out pretty long. It's hard to see exactly where they are coming from. Don't you have to be able to see the hair follicle shaft to zap it? Or is just grabbing the hair with tweezers enough?
Ted Striker

Electrolysis may be done on the ears, but if the electrologist can not see the follicle opening, or can not reach the follicle opening with the probe, the hair can not be safely treated. This is another area where a microscope, or magnified visualization system helps modern electrologists to take the next step in expanding services beyond those of the past.

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what do you apply tend skin with? i read that andrea says you need to apply a lot of it... since it's so expensive, what is everyone applying it with? ALSO, and perhaps more importantly, every salon in my area that used to carry tend skin is now discontinuing it cuz of some fda recall and need for reformulations. so do you suggest i try something new that they carry and recommend or what? any ideas?
Goodgirl101

Those on a budget can make their own tend skin type product by dissolving aspirin tablets in a bottle of rubbing alcohol. Although the easiest way to dispense the product would be a sponge appliator top like the one found on the product "Absorbine Jr." the acid of the product would destroy the sponge in a month or two. Of course, you could just make your dispenser bottle with that in mind and just change the dispenser sponge on a regular basis. Since Absorbine Jr comes in glass bottles, it may actually be a perfect bottle to pour your solution into after you have mixed it, and allowed it to saturate and excess aspirin to settle. You would just have to then have a way to change the sponge top when needed. But don't get the idea of having this product as something you "carry along" in your purse or other on the go bag. Even the bottle the Tend Skin people put the product in will be eaten away by the product, and you will have a leak! It will then destroy everything it touches.

[ March 08, 2003, 09:46 AM: Message edited by: James W. Walker VII, CPE ]

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#10640 - 03/12/03 08:26 AM Re: Razor bump reduction
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Great report, James! I'll have to try the Astroglide idea. As far as making your own Tend Skin type product at home, I'm not sure what the ratios are. The aspirin is the active ingredient, though, so I'd say ramp up slowly over time-- the stuff can be a pretty powerful irritant for some. If anyone has a recipe, let us know.

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#10641 - 03/12/03 02:52 AM Re: Razor bump reduction
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The general idea is to saturate the alcohol with the aspirin. I used to know the ratio, but that info is just one more thing to prove that I have forgotten more than my brother ever bothered to learn [Razz] One need only dissolve asprin in the alcohol until it stops dissoving. This will make the strongest possible solution. For those with more sensitive skin, one may try starting with a bottle of alcohol and slowly upping the aspirin content until they reach a level that does the job, while not having a bad reaction with their skin.

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#10642 - 04/15/03 07:38 AM Re: Razor bump reduction
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hello all...

i hope its ok to post my question here...

i am a black male, and my lady cuts my hair on my head. i get a low hair cut so its no need to spend the money to go to a barber shop for such a simple cut..

anyway, since we have been doing this, i have been getting some bumps in the back of my head... they appear in random fashion. and they show up in the back of my head down toward the neck.

at this point i don't know what to do. i will list some things about me scalp:

i do have oily skin...

i usually cut my hair before taking a shower.

i don't put any thing in my head prior to cutting my hair...

also we have been using the same blade (electric barber style shaver we purchased from sally beauty supply) ever since we started cutting my hair at home (its been a few months!) perhaps this is a reason the bumps appear? we did buy a new one last week though...

i have been searching on the internet for any tips or resolutions to no avail. i would appreciate it if someone could give me some info on what could be the problem, and what i can do to stop it.

thank you.

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#10643 - 04/15/03 07:43 AM Re: Razor bump reduction
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You should do everything you can to work clean:

Make sure the blades are cleaned according to manufacturer's instructions.

Cut the hair after a shower.
Cleanse the area with Tend Skin or witch hazel and let dry.
Trim hair.
Wash off any loose hair.
Cleanse again with Tend Skin or witch hazel.

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#10644 - 04/16/03 07:28 AM Re: Razor bump reduction
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thx for your tips andrea.i have a couple more...

the box does not say much (nothing!) about cleaning the blades, only to oil it . can you give me some tips on blade cleaning? do we put it in alcohol?

also, wash my head first, apply witch hazel and let dry. cut hair. (can i use a damp rag to wipe away loose hair?) reapply witch hazel.

are those the steps? also do i avoid alcohol altogether?

since i have a low hair cut, is there any type of shampoo i should use? i currently use suave (i wash my head when i shower). are there any shampoo's to avoid? is suave ok?

thank you for your tips and info. gotta love google searches!! [Wink]

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#10645 - 07/26/03 09:00 PM Re: Razor bump reduction
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Tend Skin WORKS GREAT!

Do you have razor burn, bumps and ingrown hairs? Eliminate them with TEND SKIN!

YOU WILL SEE RESULTS IN 24 HOURS!!!

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Personally, I cannot live without this product. If you need, I can supply you with how much of the product you need at a reduced price! Just email me at sililu@hotmail.com for more information.

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#10646 - 02/19/05 12:12 AM Re: Razor bump reduction
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Posts: 1
I had a brazillian Wax a month a ago and now my pubic area is a mess of ingrown hairs. :-( I really liked the original result though. Will these bumps ever go away? What can I do about the darks spots these bumps are leaving?

TIA

dreem

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#10647 - 02/21/05 09:50 PM Re: Razor bump reduction
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Posts: 7
I'm now in adelaide , australia... is there tend skin available here? i've been looking for a product to get rid of bumps and redness after i shave... and it seems to me from this forum... Tend skin sounds pretty good...
How is it like? a cream, lotion or wat?

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