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#106319 - 04/24/13 03:26 PM One-touch electrolysis
ZoeStevens Offline
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I thought I'd post here from time to time, as I just got a one-touch and have started using it. The information I found was invaluable for deciding to purchase it and for using it.

I have had laser hair removal done my chin/throat, underarms, and lower legs, about 3 years ago. My legs are still largely clear. My underarm hair grew back but it is now much thinner and I do not shave it (it's not invisible, but I can't be bothered).

I also had some electrolysis done on my face professionally because after the laser, I still had a lot of fine, darkish hairs on my throat (not noticeable, but I knew they were there). I tried a couple different people and different methods, but after 20-30 sessions I didn't see any improvement. I am sure it was working slowly, but it was too big a hit to the pocketbook and my free time that I opted to discontinue.

Much of my facial hair is still gone, but a lot of it has returned over the past few months. I don't mind the stuff that came back finer, as I just bleach and/or trim it and get on with my day, but the thick hairs, the ones that feel stubbly, were driving me crazy.

I looked into electrolysis but I live in a remote area and would have difficulty being able to afford proper, thorough treatment, so the one-touch seemed like a great solution. I got it on ebay, new, for about $30. I see about 20-40 hairs to be treated, so presumably there are a couple hundred in total, but I do not mind putting in the time and doing it myself.

The first day I used it, I did three hairs on my chin. I had intended to try elsewhere first in case I disfigured myself, but I don't have any coarse hair anywhere else.

I started on setting 4 which I felt slightly, but I needed to treat twice before I could easily remove the hairs. Some came out with that jelly-like root thing on the end, the other came out bare (no root), but it slid out easily.

Some of that white pus-like stuff (lye?) did form as well, which was weird and neat.

I found using it to be pretty easy. I did not use a magnified mirror - I actually found it harder to focus my eyes. So I just pressed my face into the regular mirror in the bathroom, and rested my arms on the ledge under the mirror to steady myself. I could see the hair easily, but not the pore, so I just kind of poked around without putting my fingers on the metal part (thus not completing the circuit, apparently) until the needle went in easily. I am sure that's not the best way to go about it, but in time I hope to get much better.

I used alcohol frequently on my face and the needle.

I counted to 15, but I think I count faster than actual seconds, but I don't have a clock with a seconds hand that I can bring into the bathroom. I guess I will have to count more slowly - one mississippi, two mississippi, etc.

One hair I did three times before it came out, and it did pit. I would not try three times in a row again.

Once I was done, I put polysporin on the marks which are not bad at all. I didn't have any scabbing, just some redness and when I touch it I can feel a slight swelling/bump. I applied polysporin again before bed, and every time I washed my face.

I will note that my machine didn't beep. I read that some do, but mine doesn't.

The next day, which was yesterday, I did four more hairs. I put the setting on 6 which I could feel more, but it was totally bearable and I plan to try a high setting next time. I still had to do them all twice before they came out easily and again, some came out with the big root thing, and others came out bare-ended.

I had less pitting this time, probably because I fumbled less. I was generous with the alcohol and polysporin as usual.

As of today, I have very minor redness. It looks like I have a couple of small zits on my chin, and it is not nearly as bad as I was expecting. I am not expecting any scars. The scabs and redness I had when I got my face professional electrolysed were MUCH worse, however they did a much larger area, so I can imagine that if you did 100 hairs at once, it would be pretty bad.

Anyway, that's where I'm at now! Will keep you guys posted of any developments!

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#106320 - 04/24/13 04:32 PM Re: One-touch electrolysis [Re: ZoeStevens]
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I've been curious to try this but seeing as how I would want to use it on my face, I'm a bit cautious to proceed. I've been over treated from professional electrolysis treatment, who knows what would happen if I used it on myself. Was the salt water part of this obnoxious to deal with?


Edited by sevastra (04/24/13 04:33 PM)

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#106322 - 04/24/13 05:40 PM Re: One-touch electrolysis [Re: sevastra]
ZoeStevens Offline
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No, the salt water wasn't an issue. I just filled a measuring cup and put it beside me, and I dipped my fingers in and flicked the excess off. A couple times my fingers would dry out as I was fumbling, trying to find the pore, but I did not find it troublesome at all.

Frankly, I think you'd have to ignore all instructions and really try hard to overtreat yourself on this thing. It is pretty weak compared to professional electrolysis (mind you, I haven't tried it on a setting higher than 6). The pain is lesser, and when I had it done professionally I had scabbing all over my face to the point that people would look at me with much concern while it was healing.

I will let you know how it heals but I am pretty confident that no pits or scars will stick around. So far my recommendations would be to use rubbing alcohol liberally, apply polysporin 2-3 times a day, start with a low setting (4 is low to me), don't do too many hairs at once and don't overtreat a hair - if it doesn't come out easily in 2, 15 seconds zaps, leave it till next time.

And if you have any scabs, obviously, don't pick at them. But I didn't have any scabs which is good because I am a compulsive picker!


Edited by ZoeStevens (04/24/13 05:42 PM)

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#106323 - 04/24/13 07:51 PM Re: One-touch electrolysis [Re: ZoeStevens]
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Thanks for the reply, and yes, let me know how it heals. I hope it works out for you. I would use it for maintenance mostly, that is if I do purchase it. I'm not sure how the probe would work on the finer hairs that I would want to treat. A size 2 probe is used on me currently and I'm not sure what size the one touch offers. I thought about buying my own machine but I just don't have the funds to make a purchase like that right now.

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#106324 - 04/24/13 08:11 PM Re: One-touch electrolysis [Re: sevastra]
ZoeStevens Offline
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I took a look in the bathroom mirror a few minutes ago and it's looking pretty innocuous. Will keep you posted!

I don't think it would work all that well on finer hairs - the probe is super thin but of course, compared to a hair, it is not. I have seen others comment that it is inconvenient to use on smaller pores because the probe is too big and can thus increase the risk of scarring or pitting, and I can see what they mean. I don't think it's impossible, just that you would have to be careful.

I have read about people retrofitting the machine with a finer probe with success, though. In my eyes it's worth trying it for $30, but on the other hand, not even a small amount of scarring is worth $30.

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#106360 - 04/25/13 07:19 PM Re: One-touch electrolysis [Re: ZoeStevens]
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I tried it on setting 10 last night. I can feel it more, but not that much more. This machine just isn't that strong, I guess, which is OK with me. Any more than what I felt at 10, I would probably be more prone to not using it.

I got the 2-3 hairs on my neck that had been bugging me and it wasn't that hard to do. It took some weird contorting, but it was manageable.

I have seen people advise users of this product to find someone else to share duties with (you do them, they do you). I can see the appeal but to me I think this is something I will mostly use on my myself. It's like plucking my eyebrows - in theory, having someone else do it is a good idea, but in practice, I am pretty good at doing it myself.

While I was doing it an ant crawled up my leg (ah, spring) and freaked me out. Gross. No harm done though.

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#106452 - 05/01/13 03:29 AM Re: One-touch electrolysis [Re: ZoeStevens]
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So I broke it out again today after a few days' break. The first marks I made on level 4 are pretty much gone with no scarring. Level 10 is definitely more injurious, but not much worse than a zit you've picked at a bit.

I bent the probe today but it was very easy to straighten in with a pair of tweezers. Something else I noted is that it's good to remove the probe completely each time and clean it off - gunk gets stuck in the tube and can gum up the works.

Today, I did about 50 hairs on my lower legs. These are hairs that grew back after laser treatment a few years ago, so they were pretty fine. Contrary to what I've read, I didn't find the finer hair more difficult to treat. I don't know about peach fuzz, though. The stuff on my legs was like the hair on my arms - brown, noticeable, but not thick or stubbly.

The finer hairs were a lot faster to treat, needing just one 15 second treatment (as opposed to two 15 second treatments on my thicker chin hairs). And I was able to do them a lot faster - two or three at a time, then pull them out. And I would insert the probe first, then wet my fingers and touch the metal strip. I find the electric feeling of the probe against the outer layer of my skin to be a bit disconcerting, although not painful, so I avoid it when I can.

Afterward, my legs looked like they were covered in mosquito bites. Now, several hours later, most of the redness and swelling is gone. I can still see the spots. But there is no scabbing or pitting.

I do think it would be quasi impossible to do a half or full leg with this machine, but spot treating or cleanup or maintenance - totally possible.

I wasn't able to do my knee because the hairs just grow too deep (about 1 cm under the skin) but other than those hairs I haven't had an issue with depth.

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#106454 - 05/01/13 09:07 AM Re: One-touch electrolysis [Re: ZoeStevens]
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The nice thing about the One Touch is that it uses the gentle galvanic current to destroy the hair, which leaves little room for user error.. although it still is possible! Congrats on starting hair removal with the unit, while it's not as fast as a professional epilator, it still gets the job done.

Be careful on setting 10, I've tried it leaving it in for 10 seconds and i do have a little discoloration of the skin on a small test patch i did, which is common for any over treatment. I'll leave that up to you to determine the definition of over treatment is, every DIY'er i'm assuming goes through it. On the positive side you'll probably only be treating the hair once before it dies.

If i have one bad thing to say about the machine, the metal contact combined with salt water seems to aggravate my eczema, so i had to stop. I wanted to continue hair removal so i bought a professional unit, when i do use galvanic i find that the sponge covering the electrode is not nearly as eczema provoking as the bare metal contact on the One Touch.
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#106459 - 05/01/13 01:16 PM Re: One-touch electrolysis [Re: iLikeDIY]
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Thanks for the input! I think I was actually using level 9 - I cranked it all the way up, then down a little bit (an idiosyncrasy of mine - I don't trust things to work properly at full blast) however even at 9 I could imagine that some faint scarring wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility.

I put it up that high because I couldn't feel that much on a lower setting, not compared with professional electrolysis anyway. But I'll be more careful from now on, and I think I'll let my face heal 100% so I can see exactly what it looks like before doing anymore.

I was able to do about 1/4 of my leg cleanup in 40 min though so I will keep doing that... and I can do it front of the tv.

I tried doing my face but I can't in front of the tv, because my little mirror is magnified and I can't see anything with the distortion from the magnification.

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#106496 - 05/03/13 08:42 PM Re: One-touch electrolysis [Re: ZoeStevens]
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So almost two weeks in, I thought I'd post a quick update.

The original marks I made are definitely gone. The scabbing I got on level 9-10 was a lot worse.

Although the scabs were commensurate with the scabbing I incurred when I was professionally treated, I think I will stick to a level 6 or so because it just doesn't look good. It looks like bad acne, in fact. One or two spots, no biggie, but if you do 10 hairs in a small area it is noticeable. I can no longer feel any scabbing which is good (I picked at some scabs - I can't help it!) and it's definitely on the mend.

The spots on my legs did not scab over. As of today they are red, not swollen. It looks like someone took a dark red felt tip marker and dotted my legs with it. It is not too bad, and on my legs I don't mind it, but I figure I'd rather stay at level 6 at least for now.

Seeing this photo of myself kind of cinched it for me:



Edited by ZoeStevens (05/03/13 08:44 PM)

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#106779 - 05/13/13 02:22 PM Re: One-touch electrolysis [Re: ZoeStevens]
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So I finally bent one of my probes beyond repair! It was my own fault, of course, as sometimes I bump the stylet against something by accident. I have not bent either of the probes during insertion.

Replacement probes are expensive at about $15/2. My one-touch was only $10 and came with two probes, so I'll just buy another unit. Can't hurt to have a backup anyway.

Still going strong and am pleased to note that I am making some headway on my throat. It is a lot easier to do than I thought it was, and more tolerable as I have been doing it on the couch rather than standing in the bathroom.

I am slowly closing in toward the center of my throat which is awesome. Chin is no issue - every few days a new one pops up and is easy to treat. I do 5-20 hairs a day and am noticing a big difference.

I have been sticking on level 8-9, which does scab, but it is so much faster and I can "feel" it working which is necessary for my peace of mind that it IS working. Scabbing is moderate and it doesn't help that I pick at my scabs (bah) but they do heal. Instead of "chin up" I have been keeping my chin down, and if anyone has noticed no one has asked about it so I don't look freakish. I think it probably looks like an acne breakout. Whatever - it'll go away in time.

The spots on my legs are still present. It's like they didn't scab outward, they scabbed inward. Now, a week or so after treatment, I can finally see some progress. I feel confident they will heal, but I think touching up my legs will be a winter project for me.

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#106954 - 05/16/13 10:29 AM Re: One-touch electrolysis [Re: ZoeStevens]
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Déjà vu Zoe! Bent probes?! Heck, why not buy a new One Touch instead? I went through about 3-4 of those things!
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#106955 - 05/16/13 10:32 AM Re: One-touch electrolysis [Re: iLikeDIY]
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Now i pay $30 for 50 probes? .. Better deal.
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#107256 - 05/28/13 01:10 PM Re: One-touch electrolysis [Re: iLikeDIY]
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"My one-touch was only $10 and came with two probes, so I'll just buy another unit." - That was my plan smile

However I priced out probes and units and found a set of probes cheaper than a new unit. Not by much but I'm on a budget.

So far, still VERY happy with this machine! I definitely feel as though I'm making progress in total quantity of hair left to treat, as well as in speed and efficacy of use of the machine.

I am still getting scabbing because I crept back up to level 9 but it does go away fairly quickly. I find aloe works the best to heal it fast, and/or an ice pack if it looks red. If I'm going somewhere special I'll just use some makeup.

I do have the odd dark spot but honestly it's way better than the hair, and it'll fade in time (I've had dark scars like that that lasted months or years, but they all go away eventually).

The dots on my legs - no idea what the deal is. They are still there. The other day I was scratching my leg with a butter knife (it's mosquito season) and I scraped them off so that's good I guess? They are fading and I think they'll go away but definitely a winter project.

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#107258 - 05/28/13 05:38 PM Re: One-touch electrolysis [Re: ZoeStevens]
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Where did you buy the 10 dollar set? And cheaper probes? Link please?

The one touch really does work. And it worked much better when I intentionally bent the probe to a degree and it stopped springing back in.

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#107269 - 05/29/13 02:53 PM Re: One-touch electrolysis [Re: zaphairzap]
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Hm. I never had an issue with it going back in. In fact I've never really had any insertion issues at all. I don't mind the bent one though, I just have to adjust my angle of entry accordingly. One of them is totally effed up though - in trying to straighten it I bent it all and now it's all curvy and stuff.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/230908284366?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

That's the one I bought. It looks sold out though.

It's the kit that doesn't include the tweezers, and the dial isn't numbered, so I wasn't sure. The rest looks identical though...

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#107270 - 05/29/13 02:54 PM Re: One-touch electrolysis [Re: ZoeStevens]
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#107282 - 05/30/13 05:26 AM Re: One-touch electrolysis [Re: ZoeStevens]
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Thanks!

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#107493 - 06/12/13 07:42 PM Re: One-touch electrolysis [Re: zaphairzap]
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Well, going on a month and a half, I am still super happy I bought this thing. I am no longer using it regularly - I pull it out if I feel a stubbly hair, or if I see a dark on in the bathroom mirror, but that's maybe once a week and only 1-2 hairs at a time. If I look at myself using a magnifying mirror, I can see some longer, dark hairs, but I can't see them in regular light in a regular mirror, so I am not too fussed about them right now.

Ceasing most of the electrolysis has also given the opportunity to keep a better eye on the healing process. On intensity level 10, I get a scab which I usually pick off (can't help it), followed by some darker pigmentation. This is common for me following any cut or scratch and historically these marks fade over a few months. As it is now, I can't see them in the regular mirror, and that's good enough for me.

There is no pitting.

Overall, I am really happy with the progress. If any of the hairs are growing back, they are taking their sweet time. In comparison, when I used to pluck these hairs (years ago), I would have to do so every day. So, while I know 6 weeks in is not proof of efficacy, I do believe it is working and I highly recommend it.

Yep, you will get some scabbing and you will probably have some marks that fade over time. But for me, it is way better than the hair.

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#107824 - 07/09/13 04:31 PM Re: One-touch electrolysis [Re: ZoeStevens]
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So - it's been almost a month since I used it. I bent my last probe and it took me a while to get around to order more. There has been some regrowth (or cycled growth) but it is pretty minimal compared to how it used to be!

Unfortunately, my machine is kind of broken. It only works when I turn it all the way up to the highest setting which hurts a lot more than it needs to. May get DH to try to fix it, or just order a new one.

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#108074 - 07/20/13 05:08 PM Re: One-touch electrolysis [Re: ZoeStevens]
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Noooooo, my unit finally died. Battery started to smoked! Yuck.

Time to buy a replacement unit. I've definitely been slacking a bit because the ones I can feel are pretty much gone, and I've turned a blind eye to the ones I can see. Oh well, all in good time.

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#108797 - 09/03/13 02:58 PM Re: One-touch electrolysis [Re: ZoeStevens]
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I finally received my replacement units (I got two) a couple weeks ago. I definitely had some regrowth, but much less than when I first started. I was pleased to note that the regrowth is MUCH easier to treat than the original hairs - less time, almost no scabbing, and they almost all come out easily on the first try.

At first I was afraid that I had as much grow back as I had originally, but it took only a couple of short sessions to return to "tolerable" whereas when I first started treating it took a lot longer than that.

So yeah, still quite pleased with the One Touch, especially considering I'm in for a grand total of about a hundred bucks.

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#108804 - 09/04/13 03:05 AM Re: One-touch electrolysis [Re: ZoeStevens]
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Just for comparison's sake, I have about $300 invested at this point which includes:

$150 for a silouette tone SB2 machine
$40 for shipping on above
$32 for probes
$60 for an circle lamp/ magifying loop
$25 for tweezerman tweezers.

So yes, buying a used pro machine will cost you a little more than wht you are spending now, but honestly not alot more. You still may want to consider that path if you intend to do this alot.

As for the irritation, have you tried tea tree oil on thescabs and swelling? I've seen that recommended here several times.You would also probably do well to take a little longer per hair with a lower setting, but you already seem like you should know that.

Seana

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#108807 - 09/04/13 02:23 PM Re: One-touch electrolysis [Re: SeanaTG]
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... and when one is finished with all the professional equipment, one can resell it, whereas a broken or even working used one touch is not likely to get many buyers.
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#108964 - 09/11/13 07:05 PM Re: One-touch electrolysis [Re: James W. Walker VII]
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HEY SEANA! Potential Electrolysis Partner, wassup! smile

Well, the only area I ever intended to treat with the one touch is my chin/throat. If I wanted to do my legs as well I would definitely branch out beyond the one touch, but I am honestly really happy with everything and have no regrets. It's slow to use, but it's cheap ($300 is still $200 more than $100!), and it's working.

Tea tree oil really upsets my skin - I usually use aloe if I think of it, but mostly I just wait and it goes away on its own. I am not self conscious about it anyway, although obviously I'd rather not have swelling!

Yeah, I know, I should use a lower setting smile I also shouldn't pick at my scabs (all scabs, not just electrolysis-related), but it's a powerful force that I cannot resist! I like to "feel" the electricity, I guess, and I'm already waiting 20-30 seconds on level 9. Couldn't imagine waiting much longer on a lower setting. At any rate, it's a lot better now on the second round. I am still using level 8-9, but it only takes 10-15 seconds and almost always on the first try.

I found re-inserting the probe more than once into the same follicle caused a lot of damage.

I do have some pigmentation and scarring from the first round which was more damaging (highest setting, long wait times, sometimes 2-3 tries in a follicle), but it's VERY minor, under my chin, and I can only see it when I'm front of the magnifying mirror with the light on, so it's really not a big deal to me.

Other thing I noticed was that sometimes the hair would come out but leave the root thingy behind, which would harden in the pore. Often these were easy to squeeze out like a whitehead, but a couple of them caused bumps that I picked at. Not a big deal, but now I am careful to push out any that don't come out with the hair.

No intention of selling the one-touch. I consider the $100 money well spent!

I maintain that it's not for everyone, but if you want to spend like $30 you can get a one-touch, some extra probes, and some batteries and you're good. The only thing is, wipe down the metal thingy on the probe with a damp cloth and then wipe it dry. Leaving salt water on it will cause is to rust.

The only other downside I see to this (which doesn't apply to me) is that it sucks for fine hair and small pores. The probes are just too thick, I guess.

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#108966 - 09/11/13 07:24 PM Re: One-touch electrolysis [Re: ZoeStevens]
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This is too funny. For those not in the know, I posted a while ago locally for potential electrolysis partners , and Zoe was one of the people who replied to my kijiji Ad.It's total coincidence, but we've also posted back and forth here.I should pay more attention to names, if I didnt have names-ymers.

I bought a bunch fo f-shank probes Zoe from a retired electrysist. Many of them are the insulated type and size f2. We may want to give those a try once we get going to help reduce potential scarring.I'm pretty much equipped at this point, everything EXCEPT the machine which I had to return because it proved defective when I tested it. Anyway the f2 probes should be fine for use on your finer hair, but it may take me a bit to learn to do really good insertions on them.

I have a lead on a few machines to replace the broken one, and am aiming to buy around the 20th so we should be set to go in another week or so.

Seana

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#108988 - 09/12/13 02:33 PM Re: One-touch electrolysis [Re: SeanaTG]
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Zoe,

If you are concerned with speed, then you should take Louise's offer ( the pro I had work done by a week or two ago) to have a hour or two of professional work done. She uses thermolysis, and is able to clear hair VERY quickly. She'll likely be around or available at least some of the time I practise, so setting up for her to work on you shouldnt be an issue.I havent heard back from her as to costs, but I suspect she'll be about $30 or so an hour. She can clear quite a bit of hair in an hour let me tell you, she cleared my entire upper lip in that much time and I had quite a bit remaining. She's been a licensed pro and teaching the trade for over 10 years.I'm still willing to work on you, but you could make much faster and better progress with Louise.

Seana

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#123643 - 03/19/17 09:08 AM Re: One-touch electrolysis [Re: ZoeStevens]
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Hi All

Apologies for bumping such an old thread!

I recently bought the one-touch unit, and wasn't able to find much info about it; Google brought me here. I have a few questions for those of you who have experience using it.

- When I touch the needle to my skin it feels like it starts 'frying' even before I get it inside the follicle! Is there any risk of scarring with this? I didn't trust it so I used a gloved hand with the pen and made the circuit by touching my other hand to the plate, only once the needle was inside the follicle.

- Is the saline completely necessary? Can I just use plain tap water?

- Are there any needles I could buy which can fit in place of the supplied ones, which are finer and more suited to finer/vellus hair?

It seemed to work well, I was seeing the white exudate from each follicle as I applied the charge, they then came up like mosquito bites for a few hours. However 10 days later I still have dark red marks on my legs on each follicle I treated, and they look like they might be starting to form little black dots/ingrown hairs beneath the surface. Is this normal?!

Many thanks in advance for reading!

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#123645 - 03/19/17 09:02 PM Re: One-touch electrolysis [Re: ZoeStevens]
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well gosh, that was a trip down memory lane. And to think I still see Zoe!

In order of your questions:

It's entirely possible that you are touching the metal band somewhere as you insert or the current is being conducted by the salt water. You feel the current on insertion because it's flowing.These things arent well made and poorly designed . Ergonomically they are a fail.

The salt in the water is necessary as it assists in conducting the current between the metal band and your finger.

No, the needles you get with the one touch dont come in any other sizes. They are too large for fine hairs . Some have modified the one touch to use a proper probeholder, but it's not really worth the effort.

If you are going to try to do electrolysis I recommend using professional equipment. Used epilators come up frequently on places like craigslist, kijiji, ebay .

If you are working on your face, (as your name suggests) then you would do well to see a professional electrologist. I say this from personal experience . Doing it yourself you cannot reach those all important areas like the neck.
If you want to mess around with the one touch for kicks and giggles anyway, then by all means do so, but it is what it is,a cheaply made appliance that most people get frustrated with and throw away .

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#123646 - 03/20/17 08:21 AM Re: One-touch electrolysis [Re: Iluv2zap]
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Hi Seana

Thank you so much for taking the time to respond! I see your point about getting a professional machine, I've actually been watching a few Sterex on ebay just to get an idea of what they sell for. My intention was to play around with the One Touch on my legs just to see if I could get the hang of it, but yes it is a very fiddly frustrating thing eek

From reading about the 3 different methods, I'm not sure which machine would be best to get? From what I can gather, galvanic would be best as I have no experience, but will also take forever (30 seconds per hair?!), there are a few long vellus hairs on my face which I want to get too, and for that it seems like thermolysis is the best method.. only I'm also seeing that thermolysis isn't something to play around with if you're not experienced!

Would I be right in assuming that you are the same 'SeanaTG' from earlier in the thread and that you are self-taught in electrolysis? It would be good to hear from someone who went down that route as to whether I would be wise to jump straight in and buy a thermolysis machine? I suppose a blend machine would be ideal but they are selling for double the price (£700+ in the UK!) I am aware of 2-piece and insulated needles for minimising scarring, but I suppose there must be much more to it than that.

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#123647 - 03/20/17 07:57 PM Re: One-touch electrolysis [Re: ZoeStevens]
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I am one in the same person, although I went on to learn professional electrolysis from some of the great advice from some of the other pro's here.I did all of my own facial work, here as a DIY'er.
what machine you choose may depend a lot on what part of the world you are in.I would look at a machine capable of blend. I've gotten a lot of mileage out of my apilus kit but there are lots of great machines made by sterex, fischer schientific, silouette tone, instantron, claireblend, to name a few. I feel the low intensity rf used in blend makes it safer for DIY than thermolysis alone. Blend works extremely well and it is the modality I learned first. I still go back to it often.

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#123654 - 03/21/17 09:39 AM Re: One-touch electrolysis [Re: ZoeStevens]
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Thanks Seana, looks like I'd better get saving then! I'm in the UK where it seems like the only machines available are the Sterex ones, so looks like this is going to set me back about £600 if I'm lucky enough to find a second hand blend on ebay. What would you say is the main risk/most likely user error with thermolysis alone?

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#123655 - 03/21/17 10:22 AM Re: One-touch electrolysis [Re: ZoeStevens]
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An incorrectly adjusted thermolysis machine is literally capable of slicing like a scalpel. Heed Seana's warning VERY seriously.
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#123656 - 03/21/17 11:41 AM Re: One-touch electrolysis [Re: ZoeStevens]
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this
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#123657 - 03/21/17 12:57 PM Re: One-touch electrolysis [Re: ZoeStevens]
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OK that's pretty terrifying.. by incorrectly adjusted, do you mean on too high a setting/for too long? It actually looks like I may have done something like this with the one-touch, there is a long line-shaped 'burn' where perhaps I was pulling the needle up against my skin from inside the follicle, from all the faffing about and leaning over to touch the touch-plate on the unit..

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#123658 - 03/21/17 02:40 PM Re: One-touch electrolysis [Re: ZoeStevens]
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Meaning that even standard thermolysis current can and will cut flesh if the insertion is inaccurate and there is pressure against the skin with the probe. I've done it to myself , with an eyebrow setting which should have been low.

galvanic currents from a one touch wont do that but if a probe is against flesh the resulting lye will cause burns of sorts.

If when you learn to do electrolysis properly you can try practising on a piece of pork. this will give you a good feel for what the energy can do
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#123662 - 03/21/17 09:22 PM Re: One-touch electrolysis [Re: ZoeStevens]
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I have been doing galvanic and blend on myself with a professional machine. I wouldn't consider doing thermolysis on myself for all reasons explained above. Before you even buy a professional electrolysis machine, get a textbook and learn the basics. One Touch is a toy compared to power of professional machines, so be cautious and learn the theory.

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