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#108032 - 07/18/13 10:54 PM Re: Automotive analogy [Re: dfahey]
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sorry to intrude here, you can take this with a grain of salt

if it wasn't for all the amazing electrologists posting on hairtell, I would still think electrolysis is outdated and questionable and not suitable for the amount of hair that I have.

I am fascinated by your work. to me, it is a craft. It is art. every artist has their tools and techniques but I don't think it's wrong to appreciate one over the other, just important to respect everyone.

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#108033 - 07/18/13 11:02 PM Re: Automotive analogy [Re: gorillagal]
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Thank you, gorilla. That is what our mission is here, just as you stated. It must be respectful, but I do react to drive by shootings, when others refuse to see the obvious and I do so as respectfully as I can. Words have meaning and the intent of some words in this thread were very precise in their intent.
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#108038 - 07/19/13 12:05 AM Re: Automotive analogy [Re: dfahey]
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Originally Posted By: dfahey
Not that I expect you to memorize every word I have said, Brenton, but I have actually made this same point many times ad nauseum. It is not a newly discovered idea. So, Arlene agrees with me and you agree with us.


I know you have, as have I (of course not as often as you have!) I've been here for 2 years now so yes I've seen it posted. The problem is that new people come to the forum and don't see it. Why an electrolysis FAQ does not exist is beyond me... this forum needs one and it needs to be in bold that every electrologist has their own path to getting there.

Ekade, I will post later about my electrologist's strategy

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#108039 - 07/19/13 12:37 AM Re: Automotive analogy [Re: Brenton]
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I make this point to new people as well, Brenton. Some electrologists only check in twice a year and don't see many good things that are belabored here over and over again.

I had a brainstorm about something and I'm in the process of making it a reality.
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British Institute & Association of Electrolysis

http://www.electrolysis.co.uk/?page_id=16

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#108040 - 07/19/13 12:50 AM Re: Automotive analogy [Re: Brenton]
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Originally Posted By: Brenton

Do I wish more electrologists could guarantee I'd need 3 treatments total and I'd be 99% done? Sure, but I've learned that it's rare to find an electrologist who will guarantee that, and in the end, it really doesn't matter as long as we finish.
My electrologist knows pretty much all the ones that post on this forum, but she's much happier in the quiet.


There are people who do not care about the money they can spend, and there are people who can not afford to spend a penny more than is strictly necessary. There are electrologists who want to stay constantly informed about what others are willing to share, and there are others who share.

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#108044 - 07/19/13 04:57 AM Re: Automotive analogy [Re: ekade]
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Originally Posted By: ekade
Originally Posted By: Brenton
The strategy my electrologist uses I've never seen anyone discuss on here

Brenton, could you please describe the strategy your electrologist uses. It would be very interesting to her a new strategy!


Hi Ekade,

So here is the strategy my electrologist uses for the beard (this is the only area she has worked on with me but for body areas, her strategy is more or less the same). She starts with the chin and kills as much hair as there as possible in the first session. After that in subsequent sessions (she essentially mandates to her clients that they need to come every 1-2 weeks, 3 weeks max), she goes back over what regrew in the chin, and eventually the chin will be bare. As the chin is becoming more and more bare, she will gradually expand out to other areas of the beard (pictures a bald spot on the chin that slowly grows until it encompasses more of the face) -- that's the best description I can describe it as. Right now, we're knocking out the tiny peach fuzz on my face and whacking the bigger darker hairs on my neck.

She told me she does it this way for 2 reasons: For clients who are transitioning, the chin is the densest area of hairs, so with that removed, it's much easier to "hide" a beard (obviously not as true for clients with very dense beards). The other reason is that she can go work on killing the hairs on my neck while the skin on my face (e.g. everywhere above the jawline) can heal over time whereas the neck is more hidden.

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#108046 - 07/19/13 06:22 AM Re: Automotive analogy [Re: Brenton]
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Brenton, you have explained the “classic” face technique that I described in my book (1994). Body technique may follow the “Clear & Wait” strategy, and face work uses the “Maintain & Advance” strategy (exactly as you have explained). It’s all there clearly outlined. Not a new strategy, but I’m glad you are using this and keeping on schedule.

“Things” are only new and revolutionary when you hear it for the first time. Almost everything has already been tried in this 100-year-old profession.

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#108047 - 07/19/13 06:32 AM Re: Automotive analogy [Re: Michael Bono]
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I'm looking at my illustration and it shows the "maintain and advance" strategy on the chin. In this case, starting at the cheeks and moving to the chin. This is fine too. Where you start is not important (except for the desired look the client wants ASAP). The key is that once you have an area clear of hair, you must MAINTAIN the area "clear" and then progressively expand into the adjacent areas.

Standard Stuff, out there for the last 20 years.

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#108054 - 07/19/13 06:13 PM Re: Automotive analogy [Re: Michael Bono]
Brenton Offline
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Thank you Mike for clarifying this. I did not realize that this is a classic technique, but I will admit that I have not seen this technique discussed here (the most common technique I have seen is clearance, wait a month, clearance, wait a month, etc.)

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#108055 - 07/19/13 06:50 PM Re: Automotive analogy [Re: Brenton]
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I give new people a choice for facial hair cases, excluding the copious amounts of peach fuzz facial hair cases.

Choice 1: do you want a full clearance ASAP?

Choice 2: do you want to divide things up into sections. I clear an area and then when they return in a week or two, I grab any new hairs in that cleared section and advance to the next section.

So many strategies and they all lead to permanent hair removal and, yes, Michael, there is nothing new that hasn't already done before.



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http://www.electrolysis.co.uk/?page_id=16

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