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#109905 - 10/19/13 10:20 PM Results of 2 clearances in man beard a year later.
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Many say that some of us exaggerate the results. Others say it is impossible to finish with 99% of hairs in 3 clearances. Well, here's a new example of what Michael and I have been advocating since the 90s.

Those who refuse to acknowledge the truth can continue to deny the facts, but that does not prevent us to continue disseminating the results of an effective Electrolysis.

Before first clearing (March 2012):
A year after second clearing (October 2013):


Before first clearing (March 2012):

A year after second clearing (October 2013):


Before first clearing (March 2012):


A year after second clearing (October 2013):




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#109906 - 10/19/13 10:24 PM Re: Results of 2 clearances in man beard a year later. [Re: ]
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That's an incredible difference Josefa. The stragglers make me want to grab the probe holder and get to work though smile Is that bad?


Seana


Edited by SeanaTG (10/19/13 10:26 PM)

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#109907 - 10/19/13 10:24 PM Re: Results of 2 clearances in man beard a year later. [Re: ]
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I have no words! This is absolutely amazing.
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#109908 - 10/19/13 10:46 PM Re: Results of 2 clearances in man beard a year later. [Re: SeanaTG]
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Originally Posted By: SeanaTG
That's an incredible difference Josefa. The stragglers make me want to grab the probe holder and get to work though smile Is that bad?


Seana


No, Seana, this is not bad. On the contrary, it shows that your vocation is as immense as your desire to learn. You'll be a great electrologist, you know?
Though I warn you that you will have to make a long journey to get to this guy. Nothing less than the distant Russia. I would have loved to do the third clearing in the face of this client, but he is satisfied with this reduction. In this third trip we worked other areas.

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#109910 - 10/19/13 10:54 PM Re: Results of 2 clearances in man beard a year later. [Re: Sensee]
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Originally Posted By: Sensee
I have no words! This is absolutely amazing.


Thank you Sensee. You'll see these same results very soon in yourself, and when this happens you do me a favor. You'll visit the person who said that you never would hair free, and you show your skin smooth and hairless. Then, come back and describe to us the face of an idiot that he or she has.

One of the biggest in our field and a better person once said:
"The biggest cases in electrolysis are always the ones finished quickly. The patient is motivated."



Edited by depilacionelectr (10/19/13 11:04 PM)

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#109911 - 10/20/13 03:01 AM Re: Results of 2 clearances in man beard a year later. [Re: ]
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Curious how many hours it took for each clearance?

Did the client experience any "downtime?"
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#109914 - 10/20/13 03:25 AM Re: Results of 2 clearances in man beard a year later. [Re: Barbara_CPE]
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I'd like to see pictures of the recovery process for these major clearances to get an idea as well if that's possible.

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#109918 - 10/20/13 08:08 AM Re: Results of 2 clearances in man beard a year later. [Re: Lara07]
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Josefa may I ask how many hours have you worked on this face in total?

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#109923 - 10/20/13 01:32 PM Re: Results of 2 clearances in man beard a year later. [Re: Barbara_CPE]
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Originally Posted By: Barbara_CPE
Curious how many hours it took for each clearance?

Did the client experience any "downtime?"


The first full clearance throughout the beard, upper and lower lip, ears, and neck from the base to the chin (March 2012) took 28 hours, divided into 1, 2 or sometimes 3 hours a day for a period of two weeks. The third week of his stay in Spain served to allow the skin to recover, as it went, and to work in other hidden areas. The guy returned home without anyone noticing that something had happened.

The second full clearance (October 2012) took about 18 hours to re-clean the same areas as the first time. Only this time, my client had not shaved for over a month (just trimmed)

A year later (October 2013), we had to wait a week to take photographs in order to see the remain hairs.

I do not know what you mean by "downtime". I think the lapse of time between the first and second clearance (7 months) is a fairly reasonable time.

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#109925 - 10/20/13 01:37 PM Re: Results of 2 clearances in man beard a year later. [Re: MaryPoppins87]
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Originally Posted By: MaryPoppins87
Josefa may I ask how many hours have you worked on this face in total?


TTT for the two clearances: 46 hours. If there had been a third clearance, it would have taken about 8 or 9 hours maximum. TTT then to achieve 99% of permanent hair removal would have been 55 hours.

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#109928 - 10/20/13 02:12 PM Re: Results of 2 clearances in man beard a year later. [Re: Lara07]
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Originally Posted By: Lara07
I'd like to see pictures of the recovery process for these major clearances to get an idea as well if that's possible.


During the first clearance:






The last day before departure (first trip).



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#109929 - 10/20/13 02:19 PM Re: Results of 2 clearances in man beard a year later. [Re: ]
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55 hours? REALLY? I'm now in awe.

Seana

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#109932 - 10/20/13 02:28 PM Re: Results of 2 clearances in man beard a year later. [Re: SeanaTG]
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I do not know what you mean, Seana.

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#109933 - 10/20/13 02:28 PM Re: Results of 2 clearances in man beard a year later. [Re: SeanaTG]
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Hi Josefa,

First, excellent work!

Secondly, I was curious how long the time span was between the two sets of photos. I'm amazed how quickly his skin healed. I would've expected it to stay red/inflamed much longer for that much hair in a small area removed.

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#109934 - 10/20/13 02:40 PM Re: Results of 2 clearances in man beard a year later. [Re: Brenton]
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Josepha,

I just meant to say that is an incredibly short period to remove that much hair.I can do fast clearance, but it still takes me twice as long to go back and clear out the million tiny thin hairs that re harder to see and require a finer probe and hand because they are so small light and thin. You can see some of those type of hair in the upper part of your third picture above, though not as many as i tend to see. A week later I've still got a chin full of those I havent epilated yet ( mostly because I was waiting for the skin to heal up and adjust) .

Brenton, if I recall correctly I thing Dee had mentioned that Josepha uses a Apilus Platinum epilator. They are known because of the 27 mhz technology they use to have somewhat less skin reaction. Also, there is the extreme skill of the electrolysist to consider. I could only hope to one day be as fast , efficient, and leave as little evidence of treatment as Josefa does.

Seana


Edited by SeanaTG (10/20/13 02:44 PM)

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#109935 - 10/20/13 02:45 PM Re: Results of 2 clearances in man beard a year later. [Re: Brenton]
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Originally Posted By: Brenton
Hi Josefa,

First, excellent work!

Secondly, I was curious how long the time span was between the two sets of photos. I'm amazed how quickly his skin healed. I would've expected it to stay red/inflamed much longer for that much hair in a small area removed.


Thanks Brenton. smile

Among the first photos taken immediately after the first sessions, and the second photos, was almost three weeks. Note that there is still tension because of the healing process. And that some hairs from "false regrowth" had grown a few millimeters.

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#109936 - 10/20/13 02:52 PM Re: Results of 2 clearances in man beard a year later. [Re: SeanaTG]
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Seana, what bets you'll get it sooner than you think?


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#109939 - 10/20/13 03:14 PM Re: Results of 2 clearances in man beard a year later. [Re: ]
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Quote:
Brenton, if I recall correctly I thing Dee had mentioned that Josepha uses a Apilus Platinum epilator. They are known because of the 27 mhz technology they use to have somewhat less skin reaction. Also, there is the extreme skill of the electrolysist to consider.


Yes, that is true. However, now it makes more sense since the later photos were 3 weeks later. Most of my redness went down after a week as well, so by 3 weeks, my skin looks similar even without using the apilus platinum. At first I thought the later photos were only a couple days after.

Nonetheless, still great. He must be a happy man!

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#109940 - 10/20/13 03:40 PM Re: Results of 2 clearances in man beard a year later. [Re: ]
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Impressive!

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#109950 - 10/20/13 09:14 PM Re: Results of 2 clearances in man beard a year later. [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: depilacionelectr
Originally Posted By: Sensee
I have no words! This is absolutely amazing.


Thank you Sensee. You'll see these same results very soon in yourself, and when this happens you do me a favor. You'll visit the person who said that you never would hair free, and you show your skin smooth and hairless. Then, come back and describe to us the face of an idiot that he or she has.

One of the biggest in our field and a better person once said:
"The biggest cases in electrolysis are always the ones finished quickly. The patient is motivated."



I absolutely will. And when that day comes I will tell that person that it is the work of a wonderful woman much more devoted to her work and mankind than you will ever be.


Edited by Sensee (10/20/13 09:16 PM)
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#110007 - 10/21/13 10:27 PM Re: Results of 2 clearances in man beard a year later. [Re: ]
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55 hours for 99% clearance? That's incredible. I have less hair, but I've been told it could take up to 100 hours to complete my chin/neck/cheeks/upperlip. Why would this be? Is there a difference because this is a marathon, whereas, I'd be attending for up to four hours every month?
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#110019 - 10/22/13 11:17 AM Re: Results of 2 clearances in man beard a year later. [Re: Sensee]
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What is the secret to such amazing results with only 2 clearances?

Josefa - I was watching the "multiple insertion technique" video in the link in your sig and wonder if that is what you did? I can't seem to find anything about this by googling. Do you actually zap each follicle more times than is needed to get the hair to release? Does this cause more damage and get the client to completion faster?

Sorry if I am misunderstanding this, I am new! :-)

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#110020 - 10/22/13 11:51 AM Re: Results of 2 clearances in man beard a year later. [Re: ManlyMama]
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...


Edited by SeanaTG (10/22/13 11:55 AM)

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#110091 - 10/25/13 12:10 AM Re: Results of 2 clearances in man beard a year later. [Re: ManlyMama]
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Originally Posted By: ManlyMama
What is the secret to such amazing results with only 2 clearances?

Josefa - I was watching the "multiple insertion technique" video in the link in your sig and wonder if that is what you did? I can't seem to find anything about this by googling. Do you actually zap each follicle more times than is needed to get the hair to release? Does this cause more damage and get the client to completion faster?

Sorry if I am misunderstanding this, I am new! :-)


Hi ManlyMama, This is one of the techniques for the treatment of deep follicles but not the only one. On my YouTube Channel you can find other techniques for different hair types and areas. Honestly, I have no secret. As my dear Michael has said on occasion, I'm an OPEN book. And if I do not share much more information is because the more I give, the more enemies I win.

In case this helps, the key is to treat the follicle completely from the first time, ensuring that the skin suffers as little as possible.

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#110097 - 10/25/13 02:21 AM Re: Results of 2 clearances in man beard a year later. [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: depilacionelectr


...............And if I do not share much more information is because the more I give, the more enemies I win.

In case this helps, the key is to treat the follicle completely from the first time, ensuring that the skin suffers as little as possible.



Don't you dare hold back, Jossie! You post as much as your heart desires. HAIRTELL is your home. There will always be jealous people nipping at the nose of successful people like yourself. Don't shy away. Ignore them and move forward with excellence like you have always done. I love your videos and pictures. Pour it on us! Never back off! Onward! >>>>>>>>
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#110100 - 10/25/13 03:54 AM Re: Results of 2 clearances in man beard a year later. [Re: ]
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I hope my posts have not been misunderstood. You do incredibly beautiful work Josie. And of course I believe this is possible ! I see it here in your photos!
What is so damn difficult for so many of us out here is finding anyone who does close to this kind of work ...it's like a miracle and a dream
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#110103 - 10/25/13 11:41 AM Re: Results of 2 clearances in man beard a year later. [Re: Danika]
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'People who say it cannot be done should not interupt those who are doing it'. Josefa you do the most amazing work for clients and your fellow electrologists.
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#110104 - 10/25/13 11:42 AM Re: Results of 2 clearances in man beard a year later. [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: dfahey
Originally Posted By: depilacionelectr


...............And if I do not share much more information is because the more I give, the more enemies I win.

In case this helps, the key is to treat the follicle completely from the first time, ensuring that the skin suffers as little as possible.



Don't you dare hold back, Jossie! You post as much as your heart desires. HAIRTELL is your home. There will always be jealous people nipping at the nose of successful people like yourself. Don't shy away. Ignore them and move forward with excellence like you have always done. I love your videos and pictures. Pour it on us! Never back off! Onward! >>>>>>>>



I'm with Dee on this one. I definitely appreciate your help and advice . No holding back! And if anyone does give you hard time I would definitely be amoung those that would give them what for!There's a reason many here look up to you. I dont think you can fully realize, how much what you share here has helped people.

Seana


Edited by SeanaTG (10/25/13 11:51 AM)

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#110106 - 10/25/13 12:23 PM Re: Results of 2 clearances in man beard a year later. [Re: tiredofhair123]
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Originally Posted By: tiredofhair123
55 hours for 99% clearance? That's incredible. I have less hair, but I've been told it could take up to 100 hours to complete my chin/neck/cheeks/upperlip. Why would this be? Is there a difference because this is a marathon, whereas, I'd be attending for up to four hours every month?


The total treatment time should be the same, whether you attend for marathon blocks or weekly. The key to achieving this is for the electrologist to kill each follicle the first time it is treated - there should be little to to regrowth.

The other reason why Josefa's TTT is comparatively less is that she manages to achieve this whilst moving at incredible speed. Her hairs treated per minute is very high... she's called a hummingbird.
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[27hrs of Blend, April 2008-Dec 2010 in UK, for coarse hair on lower sideburns, coarse chin hair, completed upper lip, shaped eyebrows]
[Sept 2011 to Nov 2013, once yearly sessions with Josefa. Completed reduction of facial/neck fuzz in approx 27 hrs TTT]

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#110107 - 10/25/13 12:28 PM Re: Results of 2 clearances in man beard a year later. [Re: ManlyMama]
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Originally Posted By: ManlyMama
What is the secret to such amazing results with only 2 clearances?

Josefa - I was watching the "multiple insertion technique" video in the link in your sig and wonder if that is what you did? I can't seem to find anything about this by googling. Do you actually zap each follicle more times than is needed to get the hair to release? Does this cause more damage and get the client to completion faster?

Sorry if I am misunderstanding this, I am new! :-)


I think it's more to do with the fact that Josefa has an amazing sense for which sections of the follicle require current and she aims for these with a high degree of accuracy. We've gone over 'the telogen' topic lots of times but that is another factor - knowing how to destroy telogen follicles.

I mean, certainly, she does err on the side of a little extra to ensure the follicle is completely treated but never at the expense of the skin.
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Laser for reduction on Underarms, Bikini, Full Legs & 3/4 Arms. Skin type IV
Electrolysis - Further details in: My sister's electrolysis diary
[27hrs of Blend, April 2008-Dec 2010 in UK, for coarse hair on lower sideburns, coarse chin hair, completed upper lip, shaped eyebrows]
[Sept 2011 to Nov 2013, once yearly sessions with Josefa. Completed reduction of facial/neck fuzz in approx 27 hrs TTT]

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#125921 - 02/28/18 05:25 PM Re: Results of 2 clearances in man beard a year later. [Re: Anonymous]
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wow! i wish i could come to you josefa. T

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