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#114448 - 07/16/14 09:17 AM Re: progress thus far [Re: lele]
Helen1983 Offline
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I haven't felt plucking so wouldn't know.
I however am frustrated at coming away from my last appointment 2 weeks ago without getting full clearance cos she says she couldn't see the hairs, they have grown longer and now I need to snip them before going to a school assembly or my son on Friday and being completely embarrassed.
Again I am considering trying another clinic which isn't registered to see if they can give me full clearance at appointments, my current electrolysis is only removing the really obvious ones and I guess now that some are thinner she doesn't see them being elderly?
As you say though it is embarrassing going along to an electrolysis takes time to be comfortable especially dealing with area's like nipples.
And the worry that they may pluck puts me off undoing all the good work that has been done previously.

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#114449 - 07/16/14 03:44 PM Re: progress thus far [Re: Helen1983]
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Well disaster has stuck again found a dark hair on my neck today 1st one ever what is with these random hairs popping up in new places, hope I won't get more in this area so hard to disguise hairs on neck frown

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#114669 - 08/06/14 09:19 AM Re: progress thus far [Re: Helen1983]
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I am going in for another treatment on Friday this will be officially 1 year after starting treatment. The area's I have been doing since the beginning have worked well I do still get hairs but not many and they are thinner and paler. However on the last 3 treatment I've been getting random hairs in new area's I've had 2 zapped on my belly and one under my lip. I have since found one on my neck and one in the middle of my chin to be treated this time these are thin but black I have only ever had hair at the bottom of my chin and just under. It seems like its a never ending process my hormones have been tested and all normal and taking the meds to reduce testosterone could increase my chances of other health issues with are common in my family I was told my issue was probably just heredity before I started electrolysis. Hence me going down this route but it seems its never ending if new hairs in weird area's appear a year on. I am very upset and scared.


Edited by Helen1983 (08/06/14 09:20 AM)

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#114730 - 08/09/14 10:18 AM Re: progress thus far [Re: Helen1983]
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Went for electrolysis yesterday 1 year from starting.

Chin well she had trouble finding any which she has for last 3 times, really frustrates the hell out of me because I feel they are quite obvious.
She says we all have thin dark ones and only seems to want to treat thick ones. I think her eye sight is perhaps not what it used to be she does wear glasses? or she just doesn't feel they need doing?
I pointed them out to her using my mirror and she then went oh how did i not see that, I thought she had got them all because she zapped in all the area's I wanted doing.
However this morning in bathroom mirror I've found 2 that I asked to be zapped still there.
Really frustration as I had about 4 in area zapped 6 hairs isn't that much would have liked them all gone.

She also did my upper lip but left some really obvious ones again I asked if she'd do some in middle of lip as she only does corners of mouth and then she found loads that she was ignoring before, I've said I want any dark hairs on upper lip done.
I understand you can't treat them too close together though.

I had 2 done around each nipple these were very pale brown and thin I don't think my husband would have notice them really so I think this area is just about done which I am very happy about and told her so, I'll keep getting any that may come in done but no longer hide them away.

I am just quite sad that she is not seeing all the ones on my chin anyone.
I have to do lots at the end of the month and its my birthday early next month so if the ones on my chin get any longer so they are more obvious to people or I get anymore come in mean while I think I have to try somewhere else for a consultation. I find it hard to trust anywhere else.

The women I have been seeing has shown me in the last year she is capable of doing good electrolysis and had killed some horrid dark ones that have never come back, I don't want anyone that will not do it properly its on that I am not getting clearance that I consider elsewhere.

I lack the confidence that she's able to finish the job with the now thin ones. I have had hair come in new area's but they are not often I hope it should only be another 6 months for the treatment to be fully complete.
I may then only need to go in once or twice a year to get any new random ones that pop up.

Lots to think about.


Edited by Helen1983 (08/09/14 10:23 AM)

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#114903 - 08/21/14 06:24 AM Re: progress thus far [Re: Helen1983]
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13 days since last treatment and I've lots of little thin ones at the bottom of my chin some that she missed on last treatment and a couple extra to boot. Really annoying 1 year on that I would be getting these hairs after only 13 days. I've been trying to ring another clinic to try them out more close but never seem to answer.

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#114906 - 08/21/14 08:32 AM Re: progress thus far [Re: Helen1983]
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Helen, I do read your posts occasionally.

I'm wondering if your electrologist has informed you that your chin (and face) is never going to completely stop producing those "somewhat longer darker" hairs. I mean ... never!

With the kind of case you seem to be presenting, I would always tell such patients that the best they can hope for is removal of all the "nasties" ... and then, probably, the best we can hope for is one or two treatments per year to stay ahead of the "finer/longer/darker" hairs that you will be producing from now on.

I can remove, say, the fully-developed chest and back hair of a man and this area will stay clear forever. Similarly, once completed, eyebrows are done for the rest of the person's life. Not a woman's face.

I think you are now approaching the "on-going fiddling" stage (usually 12 - 18 months in), and you are now noticing the smaller hairs: a few here and there. The kind of hairs you find in your special mirror with the right lighting?

If you are expecting electrolysis to completely render you hair free (on your face) ... forever ... and to never see another hair, you are going to be eternally frustrated. It's not going to happen.

Indeed, I have had clients that need no treatment for a couple years or so. However, they always manage to "fertilize" a few hairs that need a 15-minute treatment here and there. If your electrologist has not told you this important "detail," that's really a shame. It "is the way it is" in nearly all cases.

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#114908 - 08/21/14 11:48 AM Re: progress thus far [Re: Michael Bono]
Helen1983 Offline
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I know we get small clear / pale blonde venus hairs but I was hoping to be rid of all dark hairs even thin ones.

I was told that later on I may get new ones and may want to come back for a touch up but from what I was told this would be years down the line with any hormone changes like menopause.

My breasts are all but complete I only get 1 or 2 blonde ones every 8-12 weeks that really don't bother me and hubby wouldn't tell I just get them done as I go in for the facial hairs.

I wouldn't mind if it was once or twice a year but was hoping would be years for the thin ones I have now but I get 2-3 every couple of weeks If I left them for months I'd get a nice grow on frown don't think I could do that I am a women who likes to stay pruned as it were smirk

The hairs have been much better on the face going through this process I just wish they wouldn't pop up so soon.
I have been tested twice for hormone issues all fine.
My mum is disabled so I can not talk to her she's not able to, but she does have the same issue with facial hair so I just assume its hereditary.

I often wonder whether some of these hairs have been there for a while but I can see them grow and pop threw so they do seem like new ones too. Hair goggles is a nightmare you do worry a thick black one may return but touch wood haven't had one of those in ages.
I have bought birthday and xmas gifts for my electrolyisis I do appreciate what she has done for me. I get upset over the thin hairs being there but as long as I keep getting them cleared so I don't get a forest I can go out of the house and no longer lock myself away which is a massive step.
As I say I just wish the process was once or twice a year.

I do appriciate your explaining that to me because I've never heard it mentioned on here and it wasn't explained that I would have to go in for top ups every year.

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#114909 - 08/21/14 12:03 PM Re: progress thus far [Re: Helen1983]
Helen1983 Offline
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Going to her for tops ups maybe an issue though since she is having trouble to see the thin ones. My husband can see them but says you have to be up close to my face tilt my head at certain angles to see them so the average person on the street isn't going to take the mick.
However If as I say I left them for months more being there would become more obvious than the small amount I get.
Because of this I am booked into somewhere more local next Thursday to test them out and see if they are able to pick up the thinner ones.
I also only started the upper lip 4 months ago so I get the thin chin ones whilst concentrating on the upper lip now.
Funny but I have never been upset by upper lip hairs most women I know have them and just use dipilator creams but I would prefer to be rid for good than temp measures.

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#114920 - 08/22/14 08:51 AM Re: progress thus far [Re: Helen1983]
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I have cancelled the appointment with the closer salon after speaking with them again to confirm where to park it turns out I would have to park in a busy pub car park and walk around the front of the building which is in the town center again very busy.
They are a specialist electrolysis and laser clinic so I do not understand the so public location its a busy area.
I shall wait until I can see my usual electrolysis or find somewhere else that is more private.
At present its a 40 min drive when I walk out of the house my upper lip is red and blotchy by the time I'm home its about vanished but that's a good 40 mins.
I would not feel comfortable having a 5 min walk in an extremely public area just post treatment.
I always bump into someone I know when I am shopping in the area its the main high street.


Edited by Helen1983 (08/22/14 08:52 AM)

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#114921 - 08/22/14 09:07 AM Re: progress thus far [Re: Helen1983]
Michael Bono Offline

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Yes Helen, there are specific areas on both men and women that are constantly in flux. Actually every area in and on the body is changing, it's just that we don't easily recognize it. It's called "aging."

When men come to me with ear hair, they are always warned in simple terms: your ears are never going to stop producing hairs.

Once a man gets to a certain age the "billions" of vellus ear hairs begin to slowly get larger. These hairs accumulate over his entire lifetime. The only success I can have is removing the hairs we see at the moment. But this will be an on-going situation for all the years to follow.

Of course, knowing this does not deter the guy from saying, "ALL my ear hairs have grown BACK! Is this ever going to work? What are you doing wrong?" (I can't write what I usually say to the guy: but there are a lot of "Fs" and Sses" in the statement. With humor, of course.)

Similarly, I usually don't recommend removing leg hair from men, because it naturally thins out ... and pretty quickly too as testosterone levels decrease. In a man's 40s, he usually has less than half of the original leg hair (thickness and hair count). Leg hair steadily declines until you get those hideous "old man hairless legs!" I have them now and it's disgusting!

I wonder if I can get a toupee for my legs?

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