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#114229 - 06/29/14 02:40 AM Why does electrolysis take so long?
byebyebeard Offline
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I don't get it. If the follicle is being targeted and destroyed each time, why do they grow back? Also what happens differently when a follicle is permanently destroyed as opposed to the other times that it wasn't? Like, what was done differently during that session when it was destroyed for good?

From what I've read it seems like each zap (is zap the correct term?) is like a 50/50 chance of permanent removal. So why haven't I heard of people having results in a short amount of time? It's always like a minimum of 2 years or more.

Sorry for my ignorance but it all just seems odd to me.

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#114230 - 06/29/14 03:57 AM Re: Why does electrolysis take so long? [Re: byebyebeard]
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It just takes a lot of hours and a lot of work. I killed 95% of the hair on my face in about 6-7 months. I still have to do an hour here or there to get little bits of regrowth, maybe an hour tops.

But my results are atypical. Because I did 100's of hours of electrolysis in a short period of time. I still killed just as much hair, I just went systematically about it. 1 1/2 years is a reasonable typical estimate, mostly because of growth cycles. And because the client can only deal with so much pain or dedicate so much time to it.

Seana

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#114240 - 06/30/14 03:23 AM Re: Why does electrolysis take so long? [Re: byebyebeard]
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Originally Posted By: byebyebeard
I don't get it. If the follicle is being targeted and destroyed each time, why do they grow back? Also what happens differently when a follicle is permanently destroyed as opposed to the other times that it wasn't? Like, what was done differently during that session when it was destroyed for good?

From what I've read it seems like each zap (is zap the correct term?) is like a 50/50 chance of permanent removal. So why haven't I heard of people having results in a short amount of time? It's always like a minimum of 2 years or more.

Sorry for my ignorance but it all just seems odd to me.




The goal of each electrology treatment is to successfully destroy certain parts of the hair follicle so the treated hair will never regrow. If the follicle is properly treated, then that hair will not regrow. If the follicle is improperly treated, then the hair might regrow. The difficult part to understand is that new hair in the previously treated area is not (should not be) the hair you see after a treatment.

Electrologists report any number or percentage of "regrowth" from 0% to 50% (according to your original post), but I believe attention to these "reports" are a waste of time. Hair has unsynchronized cycles of growing and shedding, so it isn't all there at any given time. Previous tweezing will affect what you see once you start electrology treatments.

Are you having questions about the treatments you have received? Or are you just wondering why it takes time?
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#114241 - 06/30/14 06:21 AM Re: Why does electrolysis take so long? [Re: byebyebeard]
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Originally Posted By: byebyebeard
So why haven't I heard of people having results in a short amount of time? It's always like a minimum of 2 years or more.


There are general timeframes for when certain areas can potentially be "cleared" completely, however this will vary if the person has tampered with the hair (e.g. plucking, laser..) or if they are experiencing hormonal changes/issues. Another factor that could interfere with a timeframe is whether the person attends their appointments regularly, and books adequate time for a clearance, as specified by their electrologist. So if someone is time poor, or has budget constraints, this could prolong overall end date.

There are user journals' on these forums of people who have finished in a set timeframe (9-12 months for face, 12-18 months for body - this usually includes regrowth and the full cycle of hair).

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#114242 - 06/30/14 08:20 AM Re: Why does electrolysis take so long? [Re: Catsup]
Helen1983 Offline
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I've been going 10 months they seem to be paler in color but the rate is not different from starting on the face, the breasts however are doing much better nearly 6 weeks and just 1 so fingers crossed. No choice really but to plow on with electrolysis and hope for the best won't ever go back to plucking. I also don't have enough hairs about 8 on face max at any time and half are blonde or pale brown so no good for laser would only make situation worse and induce more.


Edited by Helen1983 (06/30/14 08:25 AM)

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#114243 - 06/30/14 08:22 AM Re: Why does electrolysis take so long? [Re: Helen1983]
emilily Offline
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Helen... are you saying that you do not have less hairs on the face, but that they are simply paler? That doesn't sound right, especially if you have experienced reductions on your breasts.

For me, I can see that there are less hairs (so many treatments!) but now I have more time to notice all the lighter hairs that I didn't notice before because I was focused on the dark ones smile

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#114244 - 06/30/14 08:34 AM Re: Why does electrolysis take so long? [Re: emilily]
Helen1983 Offline
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I know it doesn't sound right but its how I feel hairs in the area they are growing back have been cleared so they are not left behind from having darker ones treated above. I go in and have the same amount of hairs cleared each time, I used to stand across one end of the room and look in a mirror and seek black hairs, now I have to get up close to the mirror to see them.
The breasts have ups and downs I go from having quite a few treated to next to nothing at moment just 1 which is lowest in such a space of time so hoping this is coming good.
Its nice not to have the black hairs but it would be even nice to see less hairs needing treatment so far along.
I admit I am seeing hairs in new area's too and you do wonder whether its perhaps hormones although all my tests came back clear, or just hair sight now that you are under going treatment.


Edited by Helen1983 (06/30/14 09:19 AM)

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#114245 - 06/30/14 02:44 PM Re: Why does electrolysis take so long? [Re: Helen1983]
SeanaTG Offline
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The thinner lighter hairs would tend to indicate hairs that were previously treated, and have grown back thinner. I get a lot of pigmentless hairs near the end. I'm about to clear a bunch of them today.

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#114248 - 06/30/14 05:18 PM Re: Why does electrolysis take so long? [Re: Catsup]
byebyebeard Offline
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Registered: 06/28/14
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Originally Posted By: Barbara_CPE
The goal of each electrology treatment is to successfully destroy certain parts of the hair follicle so the treated hair will never regrow. If the follicle is properly treated, then that hair will not regrow. If the follicle is improperly treated, then the hair might regrow. The difficult part to understand is that new hair in the previously treated area is not (should not be) the hair you see after a treatment.

Electrologists report any number or percentage of "regrowth" from 0% to 50% (according to your original post), but I believe attention to these "reports" are a waste of time. Hair has unsynchronized cycles of growing and shedding, so it isn't all there at any given time. Previous tweezing will affect what you see once you start electrology treatments.

Are you having questions about the treatments you have received? Or are you just wondering why it takes time?


I was just wondering why it takes so long. I haven't had any treatments. But I do plan on seeing someone soon.

Originally Posted By: Catsup

There are general timeframes for when certain areas can potentially be "cleared" completely, however this will vary if the person has tampered with the hair (e.g. plucking, laser..) or if they are experiencing hormonal changes/issues. Another factor that could interfere with a timeframe is whether the person attends their appointments regularly, and books adequate time for a clearance, as specified by their electrologist. So if someone is time poor, or has budget constraints, this could prolong overall end date.

There are user journals' on these forums of people who have finished in a set timeframe (9-12 months for face, 12-18 months for body - this usually includes regrowth and the full cycle of hair).


How do hormones affect treatment?

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