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#115132 - 09/03/14 02:09 PM Re: Multi-Needle Electrolysis [Re: mhawkes]
Arlene R. Batz, CPE Offline

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Loc: New York City - Queens
Hi Multi-Needle. Among my hair removal arsenal, I have a 16 probe Multiple Needle Galvanic Gentronics epilator.

I learned hands-on MNG in the early 90's from Marion Ellner of NY and later learned from Kay Lasker of PA. I also assisted and learned from Suzanne Anderer way back when she was using Gentronics.

At this point, I administer MNG on less than 2% of my clients. It has its place for me but minimally.

When a client comes in, I want to work as fast as I can so they feel they are getting the most for their money and this means I head for the super-duper-fastest flash(iest) technique I have. Although this suffices for most, it is not ideal for everyone. (As a former NY'er, imagine being here and trying to administer something that forces us to work slow!)

For people like me, with hyper-reactive tissue, less heat is better and therefore I head for the slower blend. (I have psoriasis).

I currently have a client who has been to several electrologists and complained of pain, pigmentation problems, slow healing and too much regrowth. She had read about the modalities and various techniques and began her search for MNG. She found only 2 electrologists in all of NYC with MNG.

When I started working with her, I asked her if I could begin with my technique of thermolysis and then, if she did not like it, I would move on to blend and then to MNG. Agreed.

Using various Thermolysis techniques and mostly IB probes, we saw great progress on her legs, buttocks, arms, upper lip, chin and neck. We did not see the same progress on her toes or breasts.

Her toes scabbed too much for her sensibilities and there was too much regrowth on her breasts. When I switched to blend, she felt it was too uncomfortable. I have several different epilators and one of them has 2 separate pedals; 1 for thermolysis and 1 for galvanic. I suspect that if I worked Blend with that epilator, I could have found comfortable and easy releases but I decided to work with the MNG instead, and which, to her delight, made her feel that she was in some sort of sci-fi flick as the dangling wires hovered above.

For this client and for this client with me, in my office, with my limitations and advantages, it was the way to go.

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#115243 - 09/08/14 08:16 PM Re: Multi-Needle Electrolysis [Re: Multi-Needle]
Multi-Needle Offline
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Registered: 08/21/14
Posts: 14
Loc: California
Originally Posted By: Multi-Needle
As a Licensed Electrologist in BH, California, I have been asked by other Electrologists "how do I control pain?" and why do I use Multi-needle Electrolysis? And why schools no longer teach this technique?

I've been practicing Multi-Needle Electrolysis for 20 years. I began my career in NY in 1994, then received advanced training in Baltimore MD, and relocated to Beverly Hills 3 years ago.

Trying to get a professional consensus on how you all feel about Multi-Needle Electrolysis. I would like to hear from all Electrologists and clients please.....

Your opinion is really important! Whether you use Multi-needle, don't use it, would like to learn it, have no idea what it is or what it does? Or currently looking for a Multi-Needle machine. Please let me know.

Thank you so much,
Alana

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#115262 - 09/10/14 04:38 PM Re: Multi-Needle Electrolysis [Re: Multi-Needle]
Arlene R. Batz, CPE Offline

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Registered: 01/14/05
Posts: 1159
Loc: New York City - Queens
Hi Alana. Have you found the FB AEA page? There are other electrolysis pages where your thread will get lots of activity.

All the best,
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Arlene Batz, CPE: Educator, Board Certified Electrologist, NYS Licensed Esthetician.
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#115350 - 09/14/14 05:27 AM Re: Multi-Needle Electrolysis [Re: Arlene R. Batz, CPE]
333 Offline
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Registered: 09/12/14
Posts: 6

Hallo, I would like to know if anyone sells a machine multi probe needle or knows where I can buy a new one

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#115351 - 09/14/14 05:34 AM Re: Multi-Needle Electrolysis [Re: 333]
333 Offline
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Registered: 09/12/14
Posts: 6
am very interested this technique, because it seems the only one that can permanently eliminate unwanted hair, then with only one session, and I do not understand why there are laser and IPL that does not give the same result and not the multi-probe needle

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#115353 - 09/14/14 08:46 AM Re: Multi-Needle Electrolysis [Re: 333]
dfahey Offline

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Registered: 10/27/03
Posts: 9607
Loc: Columbus, Ohio
Multi- needle galvanic is very good for removing hair permanently, but it is not the only modality that can remove hair permanently the first time.,

It is very hard to master and you have to be very patient because the probe needs to be in the follicle for many seconds. You have to patiently wait for the chemical action to fully materialize. Microscopic lye (sodium hydroxide) is being made, with the naturally occurring salt water in your hair follicles. It is a real miracle that this was even discovered way back in the 19th century.
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Dee Fahey, R.N., C.T.
Licensed by the State Medical Board of Ohio for Nursing license and Cosmetic Therapy/Electrolysis license
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ELECTROLYSIS FAQ'S:

British Institute & Association of Electrolysis

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#115378 - 09/15/14 11:29 PM Re: Multi-Needle Electrolysis [Re: dfahey]
Multi-Needle Offline
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Registered: 08/21/14
Posts: 14
Loc: California
You're absolutely correct that MNG is not the only method for permanently removing hair. However, there are so many reasons an Electrologist would benefit using the technique:
1. You can control the pain making your treatment completely comfortable.
2. So much easier on the Electrologist......physically I mean.
3. Very gentle on the skin, will not cause any damage.

Yes, it is challenging to learn, however, when mastered, it is as my mentor and teacher told me "my biggest money maker" because anyone can tolerate the treatment.

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#115379 - 09/15/14 11:32 PM Re: Multi-Needle Electrolysis [Re: 333]
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Registered: 08/21/14
Posts: 14
Loc: California
If you're interested in the technique, come see me in Beverly Hills. Lasers were never approved for Permanent Hair Removal, you can see the clearances on FDA website.

Multi-needle electrolysis cannot remove all hair permanently after just one session. There will be re-growth, and can take many treatments depending on the area to rid of hair permanently.
Alana

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#115383 - 09/16/14 06:10 AM Re: Multi-Needle Electrolysis [Re: Multi-Needle]
333 Offline
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Registered: 09/12/14
Posts: 6
Hello, I am dealing with an area of my body in a clinic in Sydney, and the owner told me that with one pass the hair dies and 99.9% if it is really so I'm happy, although I will spend a lot of money, just that it works. However, she gives the 100% guarantee, so I think I'm in very good hands. I would like to learn the technique and practice it to my country, but what if these machines are not on sale anymore it's useless.

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#115396 - 09/16/14 01:10 PM Re: Multi-Needle Electrolysis [Re: 333]
Multi-Needle Offline
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Registered: 08/21/14
Posts: 14
Loc: California
Dear 333
If the owner of the clinic will guarantee 99.9% hair removal after one pass, she is a miracle worker!

I know there are MNG machines in Israel, Australia, and South America, even some still in the US being used by other Electrologists, you should contact those who use MNG and ask if they still use it? Texas Electrolysis will take the machine and send them to Jim to re-calibrate. If you locate a machine, I would be happy to train you.

PS. Clareblend used to also make a Multi-needle machine, I'm not sure it's still available.


Alana

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