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#122562 - 09/09/16 08:52 AM Hair on Penis Shaft: IPL or Laser?
Tyler12 Offline
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Hello to HairTell Forum,

I have hair growing on my penis shaft - a lot. It grows half way up my penis with a high density. And there are the few hairs here and there on the top half of my shaft - so basically hair all along my shaft, but higher density on the bottom half.

I was wondering if it would be safer to perform IPL or laser on the penis?

Would laser include devices using the ND-Yag Laser / Gentle Yag Laser? (Hence name?)

And would IPL include things like the lumenis one?

Thank you so much!

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#122563 - 09/09/16 10:25 AM Re: Hair on Penis Shaft: IPL or Laser? [Re: Tyler12]
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Electrolysis would do a better job of this. I dont recommend ipl to anyone, and if they must do laser, only an alexandrite or yag laser will do.
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#122564 - 09/09/16 06:53 PM Re: Hair on Penis Shaft: IPL or Laser? [Re: Tyler12]
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If you're lucky enough to find anyone in electrology world willing to work on the private area, I would invest time, money and energy in electrolysis for best possible result. If electrolysis is not an option, laser is an option but I doubt you'll get satisfying result in that area. But with laser your option will be limited to ND:Yag as the skin is normally not light enough for Alexandrite laser. Do not waste money on IPL, it's a poor system.

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#122565 - 09/09/16 11:18 PM Re: Hair on Penis Shaft: IPL or Laser? [Re: Tyler12]
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Some electrologists openly advertise they serve transgender clients.Such electrologists would be a good choice. Why? Because its precisely the area that is cleared before surgery . They likely are already doing such work smile
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#122566 - 09/10/16 03:57 PM Re: Hair on Penis Shaft: IPL or Laser? [Re: Iluv2zap]
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Originally Posted By Iluv2zap
Because its precisely the area that is cleared before surgery


Not always. Here in Germany it is not common to clear that area before SRS.
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#122567 - 09/10/16 06:49 PM Re: Hair on Penis Shaft: IPL or Laser? [Re: Tyler12]
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In North America, we seem to have a mix of surgeons who have different preferences indeed some that insist in no prior electrolysis. The majority seem to want electrolysis done well in advance, clear for a year seems to be what they go for. In general it is the area on the shaft scrotum and about 1/2 inch surrounding area though the precise area seems to differ from surgeon to surgeon as well.
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#122568 - 09/11/16 10:58 AM Re: Hair on Penis Shaft: IPL or Laser? [Re: Tyler12]
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I think Tyler is talking about the very common area that should have permanent hair removal (not seeking re-assignment).

FYI, this should take no more than 3 - 4 hours total, however, done in smaller bits of time, and local anesthetic is appropriate.


Edited by Michael Bono (09/11/16 11:05 AM)

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#122569 - 09/12/16 12:21 AM Re: Hair on Penis Shaft: IPL or Laser? [Re: Tyler12]
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Yes, I'm not seeking SRS. But it would be great to find an electrolysis clinic in Bangkok. In Bangkok a place offering electrolysis is hard to find - they all offer lasers. The only place to offer electrolysis is Yanhee Hospital. And their prices are absurdly high - USD $90 for a needle, and USD $130 per hour.

And from Fenix's suggestion I went ahead and found a clinic using ND:Yag Laser for $60 a session that includes the penis shaft, perineum, and surrounding anal areas.

I'll update you guys as to how it goes smile

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#122572 - 09/12/16 08:17 AM Re: Hair on Penis Shaft: IPL or Laser? [Re: Tyler12]
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There's a fellow that posts here from Bankok who has been getting electrolysis at the hospital in Bangkok.
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#122573 - 09/12/16 09:27 AM Re: Hair on Penis Shaft: IPL or Laser? [Re: Iluv2zap]
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Thank you for the note - I read it and he seems quite pleased with the service and results. It's great that Yanhee offers injections - I don't think I could bare so much shocks down there. I will go to Yanhee for touch ups once I am done with my ND:Yag laser treatments.

I just got back from my first laser hair removal treatment in the region down there and it was a mix of a light zap and pain! I was givin numbing cream for an hour and half and then proceeded with the treatment. Some areas were pain free, but after the numbing agent started wearing off, not even ice packs helped.

But I tried my best, and I'm glad to be done with my first treatment.

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#122653 - 09/19/16 09:02 AM Re: Hair on Penis Shaft: IPL or Laser? [Re: Tyler12]
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After the treatment I was given ointment to apply to the area. For the first couple of days my penis was very sensitive and hurt a little. But now it's fine. The hairs are growing slowly and appear to be a bit lighter. But it's only been a week so I can't say much. I haven't noticed any shedding yet.

I've got a question : is it alright to shave between treatments? I'm getting my entire full legs treated with the Lumenis One (uses IPL), and have had only one treatment so far - 4 weeks ago. But after my first treatment, the hairs on my legs grew out to the point where I needed to shave them. But it's been 8 days since I last shaved and the hairs on my leg hasn't grown. Is it in the latent phase right now? Or it's possible one treatment really did zap it all away?

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#122655 - 09/19/16 10:27 AM Re: Hair on Penis Shaft: IPL or Laser? [Re: Tyler12]
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Don't they shave your leg anyway prior to your laser treatment? I would think it would be fine, but better call the business and ask them what their protocol is.
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#122664 - 09/20/16 08:45 AM Re: Hair on Penis Shaft: IPL or Laser? [Re: dfahey]
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#122667 - 09/20/16 07:39 PM Re: Hair on Penis Shaft: IPL or Laser? [Re: Tyler12]
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Originally Posted By Tyler12
Yes, I'm not seeking SRS. But it would be great to find an electrolysis clinic in Bangkok. In Bangkok a place offering electrolysis is hard to find - they all offer lasers. The only place to offer electrolysis is Yanhee Hospital. And their prices are absurdly high - USD $90 for a needle, and USD $130 per hour.

And from Fenix's suggestion I went ahead and found a clinic using ND:Yag Laser for $60 a session that includes the penis shaft, perineum, and surrounding anal areas.

I'll update you guys as to how it goes smile


Hello tyler.
I have been to bangkok in the past many times and love that place. Will move there permanently as soon as I get my body hair under control AND start working on the scarring I received from improper electrolysis treatments I had received in the past.

There is a person whom I found on hairtell.com who just opened up an office in Bangkok Near Udomsuk BTS. If you want to get in touch with her, her moniker on hairtell.com is is Tatiana22, send her a pm for the address. She sounds enthusiastic about the work she does although I have neither met her nor received treatments from her. And I don't know which areas she is willing to treat.

Also, I had my penis cleared recently with electrolysis and contrary to belief it doesn't hurt at all nor would you need an anesthetic beforehand. At least I didn't require anything. I wouldn't risk laser stimulating unwanted hair on the penis shaft and would opt out for electrolysis instead if possible. By a real pro of course.


Edited by Hairy_Man888 (09/20/16 07:40 PM)

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#122680 - 09/21/16 12:02 AM Re: Hair on Penis Shaft: IPL or Laser? [Re: Tyler12]
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I am a electrologist and a laser expert for many years doing exactly what you are looking for in Florida sorry I am near. But, a 1064 Yag, if you are Oriental is not a bad idea. The hairs you are seeking to kill are usually deep follicles and the area you are seeking is usually darker skin. So a Yag is not a bad idea and the price is truly low. That type of laser you can get aggressive without a problem killing the hair. I suggest numbing the area first.

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#122681 - 09/21/16 12:09 AM Re: Hair on Penis Shaft: IPL or Laser? [Re: Tyler12]
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I am a electrologist and a laser expert for many years doing exactly what you are looking for in Florida sorry I am near. But, a 1064 Yag, if you are Oriental is not a bad idea. The hairs you are seeking to kill are usually deep follicles and the area you are seeking is usually darker skin. So a Yag is not a bad idea and the price is truly low. That type of laser you can get aggressive without a problem killing the hair. I suggest numbing the area first. This not addressed to me but, just offering a professional opinion that I hope helps you.
My first time on a forum I was asked to help people looking for laser advise.
Karenmarlise

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#122684 - 09/21/16 10:06 AM Re: Hair on Penis Shaft: IPL or Laser? [Re: Tyler12]
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Thank you for paying forward, Karen! We don't not have any laser specialists giving time here to answer questions. I'm sure consumers appreciate your input.
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#122686 - 09/21/16 10:20 AM Re: Hair on Penis Shaft: IPL or Laser? [Re: Tyler12]
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As Dee mentions, we dont currently have any laser specialists posting karen .We used to, but over the years all have left. So your expertise and advice is truly welcome smile
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#122800 - 10/04/16 07:21 AM Re: Hair on Penis Shaft: IPL or Laser? [Re: Hairy_Man888]
Tyler12 Offline
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Originally Posted By Hairy_Man888
Originally Posted By Tyler12
Yes, I'm not seeking SRS. But it would be great to find an electrolysis clinic in Bangkok. In Bangkok a place offering electrolysis is hard to find - they all offer lasers. The only place to offer electrolysis is Yanhee Hospital. And their prices are absurdly high - USD $90 for a needle, and USD $130 per hour.

And from Fenix's suggestion I went ahead and found a clinic using ND:Yag Laser for $60 a session that includes the penis shaft, perineum, and surrounding anal areas.

I'll update you guys as to how it goes smile


Hello tyler.
I have been to bangkok in the past many times and love that place. Will move there permanently as soon as I get my body hair under control AND start working on the scarring I received from improper electrolysis treatments I had received in the past.

There is a person whom I found on hairtell.com who just opened up an office in Bangkok Near Udomsuk BTS. If you want to get in touch with her, her moniker on hairtell.com is is Tatiana22, send her a pm for the address. She sounds enthusiastic about the work she does although I have neither met her nor received treatments from her. And I don't know which areas she is willing to treat.

Also, I had my penis cleared recently with electrolysis and contrary to belief it doesn't hurt at all nor would you need an anesthetic beforehand. At least I didn't require anything. I wouldn't risk laser stimulating unwanted hair on the penis shaft and would opt out for electrolysis instead if possible. By a real pro of course.


Thank you for this. Seeing as my treatment is going well so far I will look into her for treating certain small areas (nipples) as well as for spot treatments at the end of my laser course if I find rouge hairs.

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#122801 - 10/04/16 07:44 AM Re: Hair on Penis Shaft: IPL or Laser? [Re: karenmarlise]
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Originally Posted By karenmarlise
I am a electrologist and a laser expert for many years doing exactly what you are looking for in Florida sorry I am near. But, a 1064 Yag, if you are Oriental is not a bad idea. The hairs you are seeking to kill are usually deep follicles and the area you are seeking is usually darker skin. So a Yag is not a bad idea and the price is truly low. That type of laser you can get aggressive without a problem killing the hair. I suggest numbing the area first. This not addressed to me but, just offering a professional opinion that I hope helps you.
My first time on a forum I was asked to help people looking for laser advise.
Karenmarlise


Thank you Karen. Yes, I am oriental and skin in these areas are a bit darker than the rest of my body.

And so far the ND-yag has been good to my skin. I have not noticed any burning or any adverse effects. A week after my first treatment everything is back to normal health. And I am very amazed at how much hair has been reduced from my penis shaft. I am 3 weeks post treatment and almost all the hair on my penis shaft has stopped growing. Is it possible the laser effectively killed 80% of the hair follicles on my penis in one treatment? Or are the hairs simply just taking their time to grow?

Because I treated my full legs with the Lumenia One (an IPL, and only one treatment so far) and at first the hairs were growing very slowly. I shaved and it took 8 days to even grow out a littlet. I shaved again after a couple weeks and this time the hairs grew out in 5-6 days. So I'm worried that the hairs will start growing faster and faster again back to the normal speed it grew at before my first treatment. And I'm worried my penis shaft hair will also grow faster soon and come back. I know I've only had one treatment on every area but this just worries me.

The hairs on my perianal area and anal area has grown thinner but about the same density. Same as for my legs. The only area that hasn't had much hair growth at all is my penis shaft.

Next Monday I will go treat my private areas for the second time and begin treating my belly button, arms, fingers, and a bit on my cheekbones with the yag.

Next Wednesday I will go for the second treatment for my full legs, face and neck using the Lumenis One.

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#123039 - 11/09/16 02:30 PM Re: Hair on Penis Shaft: IPL or Laser? [Re: Tyler12]
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Update: I went in for my 3rd treatment today!

I'm really happy with the results. With 2 treatments I have eliminated 90% of the hair growing on my penile shaft. So today I had to help them menouver my penis in order to get the little hairs hiding :P (it's honestly better this way for a thorough treatment).

The hairs at the perinal area and backside in general has become very sparse. I'd estimate maybe 40% has been removed here. So this will require many more before it's all gone. I assume because it's a harder area to work on havingto work between the bum cheeks.

I'll see how much has been eliminated with this third treatment smile

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#123149 - 12/06/16 09:26 AM Re: Hair on Penis Shaft: IPL or Laser? [Re: Tyler12]
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Update on my third treatment:

There is quite a lot of hair regrowth (maybe 35%-45%) on my penis shaft and the base that was lasered. These areas didn't grow back during my second or third treatment visits. So they will get lasered on my 4th visit. This is frustrating and a little scary because of wasted treatment slots and I don't know if the laser was effective (some regrowth is thinner and some is still the same thickened- maybe a bit thinner but I can't really tell).

I really hope by the end of my treatments the hairs don't grow back at this pace and density. So maybe I'll space my treatments out further apart. Will go in for my 4th in a week.

And in terms of hair on my perineum area and anal area I can't tell a difference between my second and third treatments.

I think for my next visit I'll do my best to shave as much as possible so that the laser takes full effect.

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#123150 - 12/06/16 01:05 PM Re: Hair on Penis Shaft: IPL or Laser? [Re: Tyler12]
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It might not be necessary, but plan on finishing up with electrolysis. It has been my experience that laser can permanently reduce the amount of hair up to a certain point beyond which you will need electrolysis to complete the job.

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#123151 - 12/06/16 02:31 PM Re: Hair on Penis Shaft: IPL or Laser? [Re: Tyler12]
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This is so very true. I remember while I was studying to be an electrologist, the Electrologist that removed my hair, made the comment that she see's the future of hair removal, not including electrolysis. She felt that that laser would replace electrolysis and she was glad that it wouldn't affect her because she was retiring in five years. There was even a newspaper article to that effect in my local paper, confirming what she thought. Even though her opinion didn't encourage me very much, I continued with my electrolysis program. The opposite happened, -electrolysis is still here and we are all very busy removing hair that laser can't "see". We are needed more than ever.
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#123152 - 12/06/16 02:56 PM Re: Hair on Penis Shaft: IPL or Laser? [Re: Tyler12]
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Most doctors that were early adopters of laser hair removal, in the late 90's/early 2000's, purchased machines on false promises made by the manufacturers. Their goal was to render electrolysis obsolete and to capture all of the hair removal market. Now consumers are well aware that laser hair removal is unpredictable even in cases where the client is considered a good candidate for the procedure. Sometimes it works, other times it does not. Electrolysis did not go away, in fact, it has a bright future and will be with us for many years to come.

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#123222 - 12/21/16 10:14 AM Re: Hair on Penis Shaft: IPL or Laser? [Re: Tyler12]
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yes, my experience is that you'll need to finish up with electrolysis.Its up close and personal.:)

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#123473 - 02/11/17 12:36 AM Re: Hair on Penis Shaft: IPL or Laser? [Re: Tyler12]
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Update on my 5th Treatment:

Treatments don't seem to be going well. I have no idea why. The first session I had great results - witnessed a 70% reduction in hair for 2-3 months. But then they slowly started growing back - and now almost at the same density and thickness as before. And now on my 5th treatment, despite my hair being dark brown, the laser technician says half of my hair was responding to the laser (if it reflected light when shot) and half wasn't.

So I'm a bit bummed out about how much money I'd wasted. Particularly going with IPL for my legs (10 treatments for $4,000 usd) which was stupid as I hadn't done my research. And for my arms, nipples, penis, anal area, general down there area - $2,500 usd for 8 treatments course). The IPL is expensive because of the location I'd chosen. But at least you learn right? So never making the same mistakes again :P

So I'll finish up my treatments and when I have the money, I'll go get electrolysis done. I'll get my penis done first as this is my main area of concern.

For electrolysis how many sessions on average until you can expect good amount of removal?

Thank you guys ^^

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#123671 - 03/26/17 06:02 AM Re: Hair on Penis Shaft: IPL or Laser? [Re: Tyler12]
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I received an email from Tatiana who has her own electrolysis salon in Bangkok and I will be going some time this week laugh I am thankful she replied to my message because Yanhee Hospital is ridiculously expensive.

I have been thinking it through with how I should progress with my other treatments: For the clinic I go to get IPL on my legs - I will continue to go there and get my treatments done until I complete the course. They are an upscale salon and I can tell they will not refund me.

For the clinic I go to get everything else (arms, penile shaft, pubic area, anal area) I will ask them to use the remaining credits to treat my acne scarring with a laser course and still treat the anal area because the laser seems to be the most effective here - and I don't want to put an electrolysist through that. I'm sure this clinic would be happy to do that as they know the laser isn't catching all the hairs.

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#123672 - 03/26/17 09:04 AM Re: Hair on Penis Shaft: IPL or Laser? [Re: Tyler12]
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If you’re in the United States, they will refund your money (some effort on your part). The United States operates under what are generally called “Fair Trade” laws. It’s a simple concept: if you go to a restaurant, pay for a meal and get nothing (no meal), you get your money back.

All victims of any hair removal procedure (that failed) usually make the first mistake of not knowing exactly what they are going to get as the final product. Then, there are those horrible “legal papers” the salon has you sign (that don’t hold up in court.) Most importantly, the “salons” understand your psychology, are playing off your “desperation” and your instinct to believe.

I have been criticized for recommending suing when “things go terribly wrong.” Indeed, it’s difficult to get patients to bring lawsuits for a number of reasons (mostly they don’t know how to do it). I don’t think patients sue enough. Perhaps if the “how to” is spelled out things will change?

Sadly, there are more scammers and sub-standard practitioners than legitimate therapists who are truly "delivering" the product you all so desire.

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#123739 - 04/07/17 06:42 AM Re: Hair on Penis Shaft: IPL or Laser? [Re: Michael Bono]
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Thank you Michael for replying.

Sadly, I'm in Thailand. So they don't go by the same laws as the US does. And honestly, Thai court does not care for this type of suing.

And you are right. These clinics play off their temporary successes as permanent success and usually these hairs take longer than 6 months to start growing back once you've completed a course - and by then this "6 month window" the clinic offers where you can get treated if hairs return is null because the hairs grow back in a year or so. But right now, I am happy that I only have to shave my legs every few weeks. I won't get electrolysis on my legs just yet. maybe in 5 years. That way all the regrowth comes.

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#123740 - 04/07/17 06:45 AM Re: Hair on Penis Shaft: IPL or Laser? [Re: Tyler12]
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Also, I have a question. I am going to ask one of my clinics tomorrow that treats me for my arms, nipples, and a bit of my face if I can cancel my remaining courses and use the remaining credit to treat my acne scarring. And so one explanation I have is that many of my root hairs are white (is this possible? that root hairs are white but shaft is black?) and because of this the laser wasn't hitting them effectively - the lady operating on me even said while treating me that she was confused why some hairs were zapped and others didn't respond.

And I visited Tatiana 2 weeks ago (lovely woman), and I briefly remember her mention this - that some root hairs are white even though the shaft is black and so the laser doesn't work.

Thank you! ^^

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