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#125147 - 11/12/17 08:48 AM Recommended machine to buy in 2017?
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Hi everyone,

This is my first post here and I am so happy that I found this forum. I have been reading a lot about electrolysis in the past days and have the intention to continue.

I am a guy mid-20s and have suffered from hair growth for a good amount of time now. I tried a proper laser in two different salons, about 10 sessions on my back and shoulders. Today I sit with much more hairs (even stubborn hairs) than I had to begin with, so in other words I am not satisfied with result at all. The result is very short-term (3weeks maximum). As I said after 10 sessions I now sit with stubborn hairs on my shoulders, and I am not okay with that.

Once for all I need to find a solution, and based on my research electrolysis is the way to go, even though its time consuming.

I have booked an appointment with a salon nearby, a woman who claims to have over 25 years experience, which is good. I had the idea to go there for 2-3 sessions, before I buy a professional studio machine and start to do it (myself/someone close to me). Now I know this is not a joke, it requires a lot of time and reading, and I don't mind. I might even take a course or something. I will then teach it to someone close to me, so they can do this procedures on me. Well, enough about my situation.

My question to you all is what machine is to prefer?
I know that most salons use Clareblend or Apilus? Are those the one you recommend? What are the different between the various models they offer? What about price range? What would you recommend for my use?

I be thankful for any advices.

Continue having a great weekend!

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#125151 - 11/12/17 09:58 AM Re: Recommended machine to buy in 2017? [Re: SecretSid]
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Does anyone have experience with this Clareblend Essence?

https://www.prestigeelec.com/shop/clareblend-epilators/essence-epilator/

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#125152 - 11/12/17 10:12 AM Re: Recommended machine to buy in 2017? [Re: SecretSid]
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The clareblend essence is one of two machines that seem to be most preferred by electrologists in a recent informal satisfaction survey. The other was the instantron spectrum elite. They are fine machines.
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#125154 - 11/12/17 10:44 AM Re: Recommended machine to buy in 2017? [Re: SecretSid]
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Thank you for your comment.

I would pretty much be working with the blend mode if I do it on my own body. Do you have know if the two mentioned machines do blend well enough?

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#125155 - 11/12/17 11:37 AM Re: Recommended machine to buy in 2017? [Re: SecretSid]
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clareblends are well known for their blend capabilities and I've had several electrologists tell me that the instantron works perfectly for blend. I dont own one ( but might eventually) so I cant really tell you from personal experience.
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#125156 - 11/12/17 12:48 PM Re: Recommended machine to buy in 2017? [Re: SecretSid]
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I have had training on the Instantron in blend modality and would always prefer it over the Apilus Junior i own if i did blend.
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#125158 - 11/12/17 05:07 PM Re: Recommended machine to buy in 2017? [Re: SecretSid]
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Thank you so much. I will do some research on these two machines. Specially Instantron, seems electrologist are satisfied with it.

Do you know if Instantron has a local supplier in North-Europe? Do they ship to Scandinavia? My plan is to spend around $1500-2000. Can I find used Instantron machine for this price?





Edited by SecretSid (11/12/17 05:33 PM)

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#125193 - 11/14/17 02:51 PM Re: Recommended machine to buy in 2017? [Re: SecretSid]
SecretSid Offline
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Hi again.

I wonder how Apilus Senior II is for my use?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/APILUS-SENIOR-II-ELECTROLYSIS-PERMANENT-HAIR-REMOVAL-MACHINE-EXCELLENT-CONDITION/182896403963?hash=item2a9579a5fb:g:-~8AAOSwyi9aCOr-

This guy has 0 feedbacks, any experience with such sellers?

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#125201 - 11/16/17 04:49 PM Re: Recommended machine to buy in 2017? [Re: SecretSid]
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I have an excellent machine for sale. Mint condition barely used since I'm working in a different field. All parts in box.
Let me know if interested. I'm at 718-851-3128

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#125203 - 11/16/17 06:12 PM Re: Recommended machine to buy in 2017? [Re: surprise]
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Perfect, which machine is that? Do you ship to Europe?

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#125205 - 11/16/17 10:09 PM Re: Recommended machine to buy in 2017? [Re: SecretSid]
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I am interested in hearing opinions on the Clareblend Elegance Plus vs. the Instantron Elite Spectrum. I know the Clareblend epilator is designed around low-intensity slow-rise RF like the old Hinkel machines. How does the Instantron compare?

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#125206 - 11/17/17 03:13 AM Re: Recommended machine to buy in 2017? [Re: SecretSid]
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Clareblend does not hold a candle to the Spectrum FP IMO
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#125208 - 11/17/17 09:11 AM Re: Recommended machine to buy in 2017? [Re: SecretSid]
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Can you be more specific?

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#125265 - 11/25/17 09:41 AM Re: Recommended machine to buy in 2017? [Re: SecretSid]
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Where can I buy a classic Hinkel machine? I know they are out of production, but I don't find anyone who sell an used Hinkel machine, and possibly ship to Sweden. Any advice? Is it any other machine which is a good substitute for this one? I have decided to not go for Clareblend, since it costs about $4500 dollar in my country, which is too expensive as my first machine. I appreciate any other advice.

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#125266 - 11/25/17 10:14 AM Re: Recommended machine to buy in 2017? [Re: SecretSid]
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I have one more question. Instead of creating a new thread, I just post it her.

I went to a professional clinic, and she removed a hair on my arm for testm using blend method. She said that it hurts a lot, but I almost didn't feel anything. I told her that, she said that I was lucky.

I asked her what current she used, she said about 0,8 on Thermolysis and a little bit below 2 on current galvanic.

In my head, this level of intensity is very low, however I am not an expert. So my question is, did she used low intensity on purpose to make me come back and do a sell, or am I lucky as she said?

Based on this source:
http://www.sterex.com/learning-resources/section6/

To establish the ‘working point', you have to set the Thermolysis (SWD) intensity to 0.4 set the Galvanic intensity to 20 (If you use technique 1).

She was far below this intensity.

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#125267 - 11/25/17 11:46 AM Re: Recommended machine to buy in 2017? [Re: SecretSid]
Iluv2zap Offline
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I'm going to let the others take a crack at this one, I've been answering an awful lot recently...
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#125268 - 11/25/17 11:54 AM Re: Recommended machine to buy in 2017? [Re: SecretSid]
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Search for Texas electrolysis supply. They sell Hinkel machines. All Hinkel models do blend. Your other option is ebay but Hinkel machines are rare on ebay these days.

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#125269 - 11/25/17 12:06 PM Re: Recommended machine to buy in 2017? [Re: fenix]
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Originally Posted By fenix
Search for Texas electrolysis supply. They sell Hinkel machines. All Hinkel models do blend. Your other option is ebay but Hinkel machines are rare on ebay these days.


Thank you. I did call them a few times, but no answer. Do you know if they ship to Scandianavian countries? And what is a fair price for a Hinkel machine? Is that a machine you would recommend? thank you.

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#125270 - 11/25/17 12:06 PM Re: Recommended machine to buy in 2017? [Re: Iluv2zap]
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Originally Posted By Iluv2zap
I'm going to let the others take a crack at this one, I've been answering an awful lot recently...


If have an answer, I be pleased to hear.

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#125271 - 11/25/17 02:25 PM Re: Recommended machine to buy in 2017? [Re: SecretSid]
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Sid recently TES had some issues with their phones. I 'm pretty sure its resolved now but they werent able to recieve calls on their 800 number for several days. The were asking people to call their local number Outside USA/Local: 281-486-5617. That's the only reason I can think of TES wouldnt answer the phone.If you were having trouble reaching them I suggest trying back on monday.They show several hinkel epilators as available.
Hinkels are no longer made and TES is the only place I know of that might have any as they deal in used epilators.
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#125272 - 11/25/17 03:40 PM Re: Recommended machine to buy in 2017? [Re: SecretSid]
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I was able to reach Myron Heimlich on TES, very kind and great guy. He was not certain if they were willing to ship to Europe or not, since it will cost them a lot, if the machines is delivered broken. And he also mentioned that Hinkel uses 110 V, not suitable for Europe. However, I sent him an e-mail, and he was going to do some research on it.

Does anyone know the price on this machine (used of course)?


Edited by SecretSid (11/25/17 03:40 PM)

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#125285 - 11/28/17 10:00 PM Re: Recommended machine to buy in 2017? [Re: SecretSid]
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I got the following proforma for Clareblend Essence:


http://i63.tinypic.com/2dir7ra.jpg

Is this a fair price for a new machine? Is there anything missing in this package?


Edited by SecretSid (11/28/17 10:01 PM)

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#125287 - 11/29/17 12:19 AM Re: Recommended machine to buy in 2017? [Re: SecretSid]
Iluv2zap Offline
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its a very fair price. I still like the Instantron spectrum elite though. A little more money but worth it in my opinion.
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#125291 - 11/29/17 11:12 AM Re: Recommended machine to buy in 2017? [Re: SecretSid]
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Since I am not an experienced electrologist, will any working machine be good enough for me. I will consider Instantron after I have gained some experience. I visited their website, it doesn't look very professional either, so I am afraid to make an order from them shipped to Norway.

A question Seana. I assume the clareblend machine doesn't follow with needles. Does any electrology-needle fit to any machine? Is there any particular company that have better quality on needles than other? Ebay would be a easy place for me to purchase needles from. Is there any good quality needles that I can find there?

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#125296 - 11/29/17 10:41 PM Re: Recommended machine to buy in 2017? [Re: SecretSid]
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most probes are a standard type, usually F shand probes. There are also k shank probes,Kobiyashi yamada probes uniprobes, and a host of other proprietary needles . But for the most part, F shank probes are what you see most commonly. Sterex,ballet should be commonly available in europe.


Edited by Iluv2zap (11/29/17 10:41 PM)
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#125299 - 11/30/17 08:31 AM Re: Recommended machine to buy in 2017? [Re: SecretSid]
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Perfect, thank you.

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#125351 - 12/07/17 02:08 PM Re: Recommended machine to buy in 2017? [Re: SecretSid]
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Hi Sid,
I just purchases a new spectrum last May and I can say without a doubt that I love this machine. dont let the antiquated website fool you. the owner of instantron and his family have been involved with the electrology industry since the beginning. Skip Mahler(company owner) can be reached on Facebook anytime. top notch service

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#125358 - 12/07/17 09:24 PM Re: Recommended machine to buy in 2017? [Re: SecretSid]
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Someone who owns an Instantron should start a topic and discuss this machine and its features to help others who want to buy good machines. In past decade, it feels like Dectro popularity has pushed all other brands into extinction when in reality it isn't so.

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#125362 - 12/08/17 05:10 AM Re: Recommended machine to buy in 2017? [Re: SecretSid]
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Hi Jennifer,
Sounds good! I have read that many people in this forum is satisfied with Spectrum, but unfortunetly I can't increase my budget above this. Keep in mind that this machine will be used privately.

@Fenix: I absolutely agree with you. I feel there is so little information about the different machines. Someone should make a thread just to provide information and recommendation on electrolysis machines.

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#125363 - 12/08/17 05:12 AM Re: Recommended machine to buy in 2017? [Re: SecretSid]
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Guys. In order to get the machining running, and be able to remove hair I need:

-Machine (bought from Clareblend)
-Magnifier
-Needles

Is there anything missing?

Can anyone help me to find a magnifier from this provider?
https://www.prestigeelec.com/shop/

eventually ebay?

Thank you.

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#125364 - 12/08/17 08:07 AM Re: Recommended machine to buy in 2017? [Re: SecretSid]
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Here is a direct link to the magnifying lamps.

https://www.prestigeelec.com/product-category/magnifying-lamps-lighting/

Can anyone help me pick one? Below $120 please.


Edited by SecretSid (12/08/17 08:16 AM)

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