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#125132 - 11/11/17 02:01 PM Re: Thinning Male Beard Question- NOT Complete Removal [Re: Hang10]
dimi Offline
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I also can not open the photos-same message as Fenix.

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#125134 - 11/11/17 03:05 PM Re: Thinning Male Beard Question- NOT Complete Removal [Re: dimi]
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Following Fenix's advice.

The first photo was taken right after a session in the beard density reduction work. I think you can see the area where the session was interrupted (higher hair density).


Here in more detail:


This was the original density, before the start:


This man's beard was fully developed when the process was carried out. The hairs were incredibly thick (as I had never seen or worked on). In my opinion the redesign of the line under the cheek, as well as the neckline is too low and too high, but that's the customer's choice, therefore, it was done as he wanted since it falls within the aesthetically acceptable.

I'm not going to lie, this is not an EASY job, neither for the client nor for the practitioner.

Another moment of the process. In this area, all hairs were treated and permanently removed:


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#125135 - 11/11/17 03:43 PM Re: Thinning Male Beard Question- NOT Complete Removal [Re: Josefa M. Reina]
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Originally Posted By Josefa M. Reina
Following Fenix's advice.

The first photo was taken right after a session in the beard density reduction work. I think you can see the area where the session was interrupted (higher hair density).


Here in more detail:



Amazing work Josefa. The individual's beard density and thickness is very impressive, but you can see after the selective hair removal it will create a different "lighter beard" look.

Laser can't achieve this because of the unpredictable nature of it, but with electrolysis there is complete control of the process. Bravo.

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#125136 - 11/11/17 05:05 PM Re: Thinning Male Beard Question- NOT Complete Removal [Re: Hang10]
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I've faced exactly this kind of scenario. Unfortunately, the client never completed the job.
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#125140 - 11/11/17 10:01 PM Re: Thinning Male Beard Question- NOT Complete Removal [Re: Hang10]
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Josefa I remember seeing a video on your channel using this case. Amazing work!! In thinning cases, do you start with full clearances first and then transition into removing random hairs or you always start with just thinning?

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#125172 - 11/12/17 11:15 PM Re: Thinning Male Beard Question- NOT Complete Removal [Re: Hang10]
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Josefa,

Thank you for replying on this thread and sharing your expert opinion. The pictures were very helpful.

If I want to thin my beard enough such that the "5 o'clock shadow" is hardly visible, what is a good metric to go by such that I don't go "too thin" in density? Assume that my facial hair is as thick (per hair) and dark as your client in the pictures.

Also, I've noticed that guys have different patterns of hair growth , where some have a high beard line at the cheek, while others have a much lower height, and other just have the chin and mustache area without growing on the sides.

What's the best way to figure out which hair pattern is best for me?

Thank you, Josefa. I look forward to hearing from you!

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#125215 - 11/19/17 07:45 AM Re: Thinning Male Beard Question- NOT Complete Removal [Re: fenix]
Josefa M. Reina Offline
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Originally Posted By fenix
Josefa I remember seeing a video on your channel using this case. Amazing work!! In thinning cases, do you start with full clearances first and then transition into removing random hairs or you always start with just thinning?


Hello again Fenix, yes, this is the same case that I have put on my YouTube channel.

Normally, in the cases of reduction, I follow a selection process from the beginning.
In the hypothetical case that we made a first full clearance, that is, all the hairs present on the surface of the skin, the reduction would be around 50% of the total of the hairs, an amount sufficient to eliminate the undesirable shadow. A second complete clearance would be too much reduction, and this would prevent showing a natural beard pattern in case the individual wanted to let it grow.
Do you remember the case of the guy who came from Moscow? the second complete clearance ended with almost all hairs. Of course that's what he wanted, that's why we made a third clearing too.

At the beginning (Before):


A year after the second full clearance:


Another perspective:



If what we are looking for is a reduction with a natural look, a complete clearance is not a good idea, because in the masculine beard it could leave a strange and disordered appearance, unlike in the body where this strategy usually gives a much more natural result.

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#125216 - 11/19/17 08:02 AM Re: Thinning Male Beard Question- NOT Complete Removal [Re: Hang10]
Josefa M. Reina Offline
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Originally Posted By Hang10
Josefa,

Thank you for replying on this thread and sharing your expert opinion. The pictures were very helpful.

If I want to thin my beard enough such that the "5 o'clock shadow" is hardly visible, what is a good metric to go by such that I don't go "too thin" in density? Assume that my facial hair is as thick (per hair) and dark as your client in the pictures.

Also, I've noticed that guys have different patterns of hair growth , where some have a high beard line at the cheek, while others have a much lower height, and other just have the chin and mustache area without growing on the sides.

What's the best way to figure out which hair pattern is best for me?

Thank you, Josefa. I look forward to hearing from you!


You're welcome, Hang10. According to my observations, to get the shadow to disappear, you need to remove a little more than 50% of the hairs.

In the first case, the strategy was to make several (around 4) full clearances in certain areas such as lower sides of the lower lip, cheeks, and neck. Then, continue with a selection of hairs on the rest of the beard that only required a reduction.

That's why in the pictures you can see different patterns. The photo of the reduction was taken after doing and finishing with the areas that required 0 hairs

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#126685 - 05/17/18 02:46 PM Re: Thinning Male Beard Question- NOT Complete Removal [Re: Josefa M. Reina]
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Hello Josefa,

I just came across this thread.

First of all , great work!

As I understood from your post, one would have to remove about 50% of the beard for the shadow to become lighter or disappear completely.

If I may ask, for this particular client, how long did the sessions last for?

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#126774 - 05/26/18 02:50 PM Re: Thinning Male Beard Question- NOT Complete Removal [Re: janaka]
Josefa M. Reina Offline
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Registered: 05/15/17
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Originally Posted By janaka
Hello Josefa,


If I may ask, for this particular client, how long did the sessions last for?


If I remember correctly, the sessions lasted between 1 or 2 hours a day, 3-4 days a week for approximately 3-4 weeks.

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