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#123816 - 04/19/17 08:53 AM New info on connection between Pain & Magnesium
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For many years I have encountered clients who presented with bodies not conducive to electrolysis treatment due to lifestyle choices and their side effects and in these cases, I have often recommended nutritional changes to make electrolysis treatment more possible. I have found minerals and vitamins, especially B vitamins to be key in this effort. We advise clients to avoid caffeine, smoking alcoholic beverages and recreational drugs in order to minimize their negative side effects on treatment sensation. Presented below is some additional information on the link to over all health and treatment sensation. For those who ask "How could quitting smoking coffee or drinking have any effect on how comfortable my electrolysis treatments may be?" here is just one more connection. Keep in mind that smoking, caffeine, alcohol, birth control pills and use of excess processed sugar all flushes minerals like magnesium out of the body.

Regarding pain, Dr Carolyn Dean MD, ND says:
"...clinical experience and research in nerve pain conditions such as pancreatic cancer has shown that magnesium can be an effective treatment for pain. Although it is clear why magnesium can decrease muscle pain (it makes muscles relax), why magnesium relieves nerve pain has become equally clear and beneficial for people who suffer from pain.
A major mechanism of pain is the excessive stimulation of a brain chemical called “NMDA.” The few medications that help decrease and balance this pain-carrying neurotransmitter have the downside of causing significant side effects. But, guess what? Magnesium seems to settle down NDMA without the toxicity! A therapeutic magnesium like ReMag can be used to get a substantial and beneficial amount of magnesium into the body to settle down muscles and nerves! Not only does magnesium helps calm both the nervous system and your muscles – helping to ease nerve related pain but it can also ease anxiety and promote better sleep – which can be hugely beneficial to those whose back or nerve pain makes sleep difficult."
She also points out that Magnesium Oxide, the most most commonly sold magnesium is minimally absorbed by the body (as low as 4%) and the balance causes laxative effect in humans. This makes the type of magnesium one gets very important for therapeutic results. She recommends a Pico Meter or Nano Meter sized Magnesium Chloride for best absorption in the human body, with no laxative effect.
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#125474 - 12/19/17 02:46 AM Re: New info on connection between Pain & Magnesium [Re: James W. Walker VII]
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Very interesting. I wonder if you have to get your magnesium levels checked after taking these? What dose is good for pain control. I don’t know how to measure out a pick amount.

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#125476 - 12/20/17 09:40 AM Re: New info on connection between Pain & Magnesium [Re: James W. Walker VII]
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Since some statistics say that 80% of Americans have some magnesium deficiency, most would benefit from a pico-meter or nano-meter magnesium chloride. One would start low and increase the dose until one achieves loose stools. It will bring on more restful sleep (it is best taken at night before bed in higher doses) and low doses during the day, as higher doses will induce drowsiness or knock one out for the sleep of the ages. Your body uses magnesium and cholesterol for repair and restorative processes and the body takes things offline to do repairs.

While taking tests may be something that some would want to do, there are some tests that are more valuable than others, and in the end, it is just cheaper to just use the supplement until one gets results.

Here is what Researcher Dr. Carolyn Dean, MD, ND says on the subject:

I don’t necessarily think a person needs to have their magnesium levels tested before taking magnesium. It’s a very safe mineral that does not build up in the body. If you take “too much” magnesium, you will just get the laxative effect that eliminates the excess. However, if you are on a handful of drugs and ask your doctor if you can take magnesium, they may just say no. Or they will do a standard serum magnesium test, which usually turns up normal.

Serum magnesium is a very inaccurate measurement of magnesium in the body. Magnesium in the blood stream, AKA serum magnesium, measures only 1% of the total body magnesium; the range is 1.8-3.6mg/dL. When serum magnesium drops, mechanisms in the body push the levels up by dragging magnesium out of the bones and muscles. This is done for a very important reason – the heart muscle requires a constant level of magnesium or it will go into spasm – AKA a heart attack!

A somewhat better test is the Magnesium RBC. It may measure 40% of the body’s total magnesium. The range is 4.2-6.8mg/dL. But don’t be fooled into thinking that if your level is 4.2 you have enough magnesium. Someone recently wrote asking my source for the optimum range of magnesium being 6.0-6.5mg/dL. He asked if this tighter range come from research, or did I arrive at it empirically. He also said that his nutritional-metabolic doctors were unaware of using 6 as the floor instead of 4.

Empirically means: Verifiable or provable by means of observation or experiment. Yes, I arrived at this level empirically. Since 80% of the population is deficient in magnesium and since the lab ranges are taken from the general population – I don’t want to be lumped into the deficient 80%, I want my magnesium levels to be in the top 20th percentile, which is 6.0 and above.

In the past year, the Magnesium RBC range has dropped even lower – as the magnesium-deficient population grows!! In some labs the range is now 3.8-6.4. It’s quite devastating for someone who has atrial fibrillation, migraines, insomnia, muscle twitching – all the symptoms of magnesium deficiency to be told that 3.8mg/dl of Magnesium RBC is NORMAL and they are just fine – don’t bother with magnesium, just take these 6 drugs for your symptoms.

Unfortunately for millions of magnesium-deficient victims, Magnesium Therapy is VERY NEW and totally unrecognized. And when magnesium is finally recommended, you are given the wrong forms. Most people cannot get enough magnesium to overcome their deficiency and the magnesium drain from drugs, stress and poor diet. If you do try to take therapeutic amounts of most magnesium products you can get the laxative effect long before your symptoms clear. That’s why I created ReMag, the non-laxative, therapeutic magnesium.

Don’t forget what I said in the first sentence, you don’t necessarily need a magnesium blood test. And, even if your test looks good but you still have magnesium deficiency symptoms, go by how you feel, not the test. For more on ReMag and testing and where to order your own Magnesium RBC test without a doctor’s prescription download my free eBook Invisible Minerals Part I.

Carolyn Dean MD ND
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#125558 - 12/30/17 04:39 AM Re: New info on connection between Pain & Magnesium [Re: James W. Walker VII]
Julie Jacob Offline
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Magnesium is on my supplements list for fibromyalgia pain. I can vouch for its effectiveness. I will caution that magnesium also has digestive effects too. Remember the commercials for MOM?

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#125559 - 12/30/17 10:15 AM Re: New info on connection between Pain & Magnesium [Re: James W. Walker VII]
The Dowager Offline
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Do you take magnesium citrate or magnesium oxide?

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