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#126573 - 05/12/18 09:06 AM Electrolysis/Laser Feet, opinion - pic attached
NARMA2018 Offline
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Registered: 05/09/18
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Hi All

Test: I'd be interested in your many professional opinions for work on the toes of the feet. Laser? Electrolysis? Time required? Clearances? Efficacy? Permanancy? Skin changes?

Please find attached the link below:








https://postimg.cc/gallery/gzzo1u88/

History of hair removal in these areas: Trimming only.


Edited by NARMA2018 (05/12/18 12:37 PM)

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#126576 - 05/12/18 10:07 AM Re: Electrolysis/Laser Feet, opinion - pic attached [Re: NARMA2018]
dimi Offline
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Loc: Montreal, Canada
Easy treated with electrolysis.
Required 3 clearances spread apart in 2-3 months to catch all hair growth cycles.Outcome-permanent.Skin change-none, only temporary side effects.

Laser outcome- unknown.Posible laser induced hair growth.

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#126577 - 05/12/18 10:11 AM Re: Electrolysis/Laser Feet, opinion - pic attached [Re: NARMA2018]
Michael Bono Offline

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Loc: Santa Barbara, CA USA
With electrolysis:

I'd say roughly 3 - 5 clearances with a TTT of 6 - 10 hours (est. on the high side). Furthermore, with 99% certainty, you will have PIH, post inflammatory hyperpigmentation (little post-treatment dark spots) that will last up to a year; and go away totally. For a while, the spots will look like you still have hair.

Well-performed electrolysis will render your feet permanently hair-free for the rest of your life ... guaranteed.

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#126578 - 05/12/18 10:38 AM Re: Electrolysis/Laser Feet, opinion - pic attached [Re: NARMA2018]
dfahey Offline

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I second those facts! You can bet on electrolysis, in any form, to give you permanent hair removal.

I personally like high intensity thermolysis with quick timing for this area because this area can sensitive. For sensation issues, it's like pulling the band-aid off quickly and most clients like that approach, by zapping the area "quick like a bunny!".

YES, expect some temporary skin side effects, especially, post inflammatory hyperpigmentation (brown dots). Depending on your immune system and the amount of energy needed to make the hair slide, these brown dots may take several weeks? months? or even a year to fade away. THEY WILL FADE AWAY, so don't flip out if this is how your skin reacts. It will be all worth it and you will have clear, hairless skin for the rest of your life.
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#126580 - 05/12/18 10:52 AM Re: Electrolysis/Laser Feet, opinion - pic attached [Re: NARMA2018]
NARMA2018 Offline
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Great feedback. Keep it coming...

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#126581 - 05/12/18 11:02 AM Re: Electrolysis/Laser Feet, opinion - pic attached [Re: NARMA2018]
Michael Bono Offline

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Yeah! Nicely, we have identified the most likely "side effect." When patients are told ... they are less likely to panic. Eyes wide open! Please, fellow zappers, full disclosure will make everybody's life so much easier!

My UCLA eye surgeon was not so forth coming. I wanted the pre- and post-op instructions (in writing) but his staff would not send them to me (never responded to calls or three letters over a 4-week period).

So, I drove to UCLA (100 miles in the L.A. freeway nightmare) and got the documents (post-op only). It comprised 3-pages (single spaced) of post-op instructions and side-effects. A monumental list, including laying on my face for three days (day and night), no driving in a car for three weeks, no swimming for a month (the worst one for me), pain and bleeding from the eye ... etc.

Q. How was I supposed to drive back to Santa Barbara (100 miles) "on my face?" Maybe strapped to the hood like the old Pontiac Indian hood ornament?

I quit! (I also quit, because they had me scheduled for a heart valve replacement). Great surgeon. The staff was very nice but ridiculous (not one was a native English speaker, and I could hardly understand them). Lucky I quit, because the UCLA nursing staff (most of them) went out on STRIKE! UCLA is a medical factory.

(So, I'm back to surgeon "Steve Couvillion." Fun, I suppose, because I taught him how to sail when he was 12-years-old and I was 24.) Hope he remembers it's my "Starboard" (not "Port") eye!

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#126582 - 05/12/18 12:33 PM Re: Electrolysis/Laser Feet, opinion - pic attached [Re: Michael Bono]
NARMA2018 Offline
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Michael are you suggesting to share the work out over the 3-5 clearances?

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#126590 - 05/13/18 04:30 AM Re: Electrolysis/Laser Feet, opinion - pic attached [Re: NARMA2018]
NARMA2018 Offline
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Is someone able to give me an estimation on what percentage of hairs are present at the time of the photo?

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#126592 - 05/13/18 09:14 AM Re: Electrolysis/Laser Feet, opinion - pic attached [Re: NARMA2018]
zapmyface Offline
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Registered: 02/18/18
Posts: 171
I think I know what you're asking!

By clearances, they mean get rid of all the hairs in the area 3-5 times, not one pass that will take 3-5 appointments. Depending on the electrologist, not every hair will be killed after a zap (it will regrow), that's why you're gonna have to come back a few times.

And like you said, there are also several hidden hairs at any time. I tried to find the percentage (on my face) and I'm pretty sure there were at least 40% hidden, but the body is probably different. I don't think there's a way to know for sure, plus I can't seem to find too much info on this...


Edited by zapmyface (05/13/18 09:19 AM)

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#126593 - 05/13/18 10:05 AM Re: Electrolysis/Laser Feet, opinion - pic attached [Re: zapmyface]
NARMA2018 Offline
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Interesting, I don't believe Michael's reply to be deliberately vague just my flawed understanding. From my understanding one clearance is removal of all hair present. Second clearance is all hair present after first clearance etc. If electrolysis can destroy the hair first time around why 3-5 clearances? Assuming you have a good electrologist. Unless it's due to reaction etc which is what I'm trying to ascertain.

You make a good point with regards hair in different areas on body (hormones/genetics)

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