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#126962 - 06/14/18 08:27 PM Re: Settings for back haur [Re: Dagretonn]
fenix Offline
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Laser on body max 12 treatments, but usually after 8 treatments every 6-8 weeks is pointless as results diminish significantly.
Even on the face, 40 treatments of laser is complete waste of time and money. STOP and find an electrologist, unless you're fine going in to slow down hair growth with laser every few months for decades.

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#126963 - 06/14/18 08:49 PM Re: Settings for back haur [Re: Iluv2zap]
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I make special consultation with those client which had Laser or IPL treatments to explain all this things. They must understand clearly the outcome and not to blame the electrologist for the hair which laser did not kill.

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#126984 - 06/16/18 02:56 AM Re: Settings for back haur [Re: Dagretonn]
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Did my 41st laser session yesterday and I asked the dermatologist (basically her assistant) to show me the settings of the machine. The machine is an old alexandrite (candela). The settings she used on me are 10J and 20mm. The max Joule settings go up to 14J. I guess these settings are way to low, right?

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#126985 - 06/16/18 08:55 AM Re: Settings for back haur [Re: Dagretonn]
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I think yes. I was treated with 18mm spot size at 16-18J.

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#126988 - 06/16/18 10:50 AM Re: Settings for back haur [Re: Dagretonn]
fenix Offline
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Originally Posted By Dagretonn
Did my 41st laser session yesterday and I asked the dermatologist (basically her assistant) to show me the settings of the machine. The machine is an old alexandrite (candela). The settings she used on me are 10J and 20mm. The max Joule settings go up to 14J. I guess these settings are way to low, right?

There is your answer. You were robbed of your money by a poorly trained, clueless technician. You were being under-treated 41 times at full price with no guarantee. She goes home with a salary and you're stuck dealing with unwanted hair 3 years down the line.
My first session was 16j on 18mm spot and rest were going up to 20j. She obviously doesn't know anything about laser hair removal if she is sitting there doing 41 treatments with no results and doesn't think anything is wrong.

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#126991 - 06/16/18 12:05 PM Re: Settings for back haur [Re: Dagretonn]
dimi Offline
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Registered: 02/14/17
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Loc: Montreal, Canada
Dagretonn,

There is a high probability that you will get LASER INDUCED HAIR GROWTH.
It is possible that when you stop doing laser you will end up with more hair than the time before you started laser treatments.
I really hope that this will not happen.

Dimi

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#126999 - 06/16/18 05:37 PM Re: Settings for back haur [Re: Dagretonn]
Dagretonn Offline
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Dimi,

Is there a way to reverse it?

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#127003 - 06/16/18 07:36 PM Re: Settings for back haur [Re: Dagretonn]
dimi Offline
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Registered: 02/14/17
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Loc: Montreal, Canada
No, you can not reverse it.
The only solution is electrolysis, sorry.

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#127397 - 08/06/18 12:19 PM Re: Settings for back haur [Re: Dagretonn]
Silvana Offline
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Registered: 06/04/18
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The chances of laser-induced hair growth is actually very low. If you are considering laser hair removal, talk to a dermatologist and make sure you are going to someone who knows what they are doing. They should be able to give you references and show you some before and after images.

Also, talk to them about the changes of increased or induced hair growth. If they don't calm your fears, then don't do it, but the best decisions are made when you have the best information from reliable sources. Hope it works out for you.

Check out this study http://www.dermatologytimes.com/dermatology/light-laser-therapy-may-stimulate-hair-growth
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#127398 - 08/06/18 12:33 PM Re: Settings for back haur [Re: Dagretonn]
Michael Bono Offline

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Registered: 01/11/11
Posts: 3490
Loc: Santa Barbara, CA USA
Interesting article. I wonder, however, on the "numbers."

So far, I've not seen a carefully controlled study on, say, young men ... who are the likely sufferers of laser-induced hair growth.

I've had 10 male clients who had this negative effect and not one of them reported back to the laser clinic or made any report whatsoever.

My interpretation is that there is probably a significant group of people who experienced laser-induced hair growth; and those studying this effect (if they are) are lacking the real numbers.

Male clients don't generally complain ... about anything.

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