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#126203 - 04/11/18 09:10 PM Re: Newbie journey [Re: MrsV]
Iluv2zap Offline
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Early on, weekly appointments may not be enough. You may have to do twice or even 3 times a week. Usually it's people who pluck who I have to do this for,but I've also had my fair share of folks who will do so, just to get the hair off their face and out of view. It doesnt matter whether we as electrologists think it's enough hair to worry about being seen, it's 100% clients own perception that matters. . When it causes that much anxiety for someone, well that's when I break out the 2 appointments per week and yes I had one lady doing 3 or 4 appointments a week for several months. She's one of my best clients,and it did wonders for her progress. Despite the frequent and lengthly treatments in the first 3 months, we have not exceeded 90 hours for a beard removal . Time spend treating the hair in the first cycle of hair gowth( 3-4 months) pays off in the end of the treatment. And of that, I have documented proof.That client that did 3-4 sessions a week is still a client, she comes in for 30 minutes averaging once a month.Shes at the end of treatment now.

Seana


Edited by Iluv2zap (04/11/18 09:12 PM)
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#126210 - 04/12/18 02:49 PM Re: Newbie journey [Re: MrsV]
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I can’t imagine going that often, as it is once per week feels like it consumes my life between growing it out and then aftercare/recovery.

I had session#6 today and have now completed three hours of treatment. I had two swollen cystic like spots on my chin when I woke up this morning. I talked with my provider about my skin issues, she said she was going to try to avoid multiple zaps if she could (however I did feel like she tweezed a couple hairs this time because of that.). She also suggested Epsom salts for the cystic like acne in areas that she has treated and alternating warm and cold compress.

This was the first session that was painful. I actually winced quite a few times and she was surprised as she said she was using the same setting as before. I expressed how I was feeling very down about the process and she said she is seeing some slight progress on my chin already, but she won’t be able to tell how things are progressing on my upper lip until after she sees what I’ve grown by session #7 in two weeks. I’ve read many comments on HairTell saying the first three to four months of treatment are the toughest and then you start seeing results. I was hoping to hear that I was halfway through the worst of it but she wouldn’t confirm that. I believe that indicates a quality provider, as I know she could have fed me some lines to make me feel better but sticks to being honest.

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#126212 - 04/13/18 04:19 AM Re: Newbie journey [Re: MrsV]
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Well if you're still counting the hairs per session, has it been progressing? You also only had six 30 minutes sessions on your face, so you might not even be able to know since half (?) of your hairs were/are dormant.

Accept that your skin will look like crap during the entire process, that will last for a year or more! It sucks but IT'S THE NORM.

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#126228 - 04/13/18 10:09 PM Re: Newbie journey [Re: MrsV]
Iluv2zap Offline
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no, actually looking like crap is not the norm for the majority of electrolysis clients.Over the course of electrolysis treatments , skin condition generally improves.It's not in any way a given that such a thing will occur. There are all kinds of techniques and equipment that leave almost no visible trace of treatment.

Seana


Edited by Iluv2zap (04/13/18 10:10 PM)
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#126232 - 04/14/18 03:50 AM Re: Newbie journey [Re: MrsV]
zapmyface Offline
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I was talking about the temporary reactions after treatments, but I wanna know about these magical techniques and equipments lol. Honestly I can't think of anything except maybe a test patch (few hairs) or a hair every 2cm, but I'd love to be surprised!

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#126233 - 04/14/18 06:12 AM Re: Newbie journey [Re: MrsV]
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I can attest to what Seana says about no visible trace of treatment. 17 year old daughter has been receiving treatment from a wonderful electrolygist Ghitta in Melbourne and after six months her face is looking beautiful. She can have treatment in the morning and be able to go out to a party that night with no sign, the redness disappears in a couple of hours. Body is a bit different, she usually has red dots on her belly for a couple of weeks but these clear up too. The machine used is the Apilus platinum.

Electrolysis is amazing, stick with it it's worth it. We still have a ways to go especially because my daughter keeps adding areas, it's addictive too when you see results.

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#126234 - 04/14/18 07:42 AM Re: Newbie journey [Re: MrsV]
zapmyface Offline
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Pushing the narrative of ''no visible reaction'' is probably why people come here freaking out over a slight redness or pimple, just saying.

I've been a client for over 2 years with different electrologists and I can safely say that the reactions are pretty much the same for different areas or methods used to a certain degree. Redness/inflammation/scabs/pimples have always happened and stayed present for at the very least a week. The only times I could barely see a reaction are for test patches or sparse hairs treated every 2cm or so.

This is a normal reaction for me: https://imgur.com/a/yWTIs (I've had better and worse)

Do I have a special skin type? Is there such a thing?

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#126235 - 04/14/18 09:27 AM Re: Newbie journey [Re: MrsV]
MrsV Offline
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I would say my skin reaction has been improving. I think it is silly of me to believe that getting a needle inserted into my pores and zapped with a current wouldn’t cause a reaction....but as time as gone on I’m starting to have fewer hours of redness, fewer pustules, etc. I have done a lot of reading of any article and forum I can find and the general consensus of the Internet seems to be that there should be little to no reaction, but I’m not that lucky. At the same time I’ve invested some time and money and am still not sure if I’ve made the right choice to do this. There’s a lot more time and money to go. It seems hard to believe this will help clear my hyperpigmentation.

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#126237 - 04/14/18 01:13 PM Re: Newbie journey [Re: MrsV]
Iluv2zap Offline
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zap, your experience with your course beard hair is not typical of the majority of electrolysis clients. sweeping generalizations such as youve made are the reason people get anxious about electrolysis and they arent accurate. i do weekly sessions on dozens of clients none of whom experience anything like what youve descibed. skin reactions can of course occur but to say that every client will experience your type of reaction is just blatently false and a dis-service to all who read and believe them.
as for equipment there are too many to mention all but heres a few; insulated probes, spacing your work or thinning, careful calibration of energy levels, hyperaccurate insertions, and even jut places that dont have the same hair density.

you have to do a lot more studying before youll know this stuff


Edited by Iluv2zap (04/14/18 01:25 PM)
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#126239 - 04/14/18 04:29 PM Re: Newbie journey [Re: Iluv2zap]
zapmyface Offline
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I don't think I'm doing anyone a disservice by warning people about temporary skin reactions.

I've had electro done on body parts too, tried insulated probes, tried a range of very high energy vs low, thinning vs full clear, and yet I've seen about the same types of reactions on everything. Some were worse than others (redness and bumps that last for a few weeks vs pinkish skin that only lasts a few days), but inflammation/redness was always present.

Again, if I have a special type of skin I'll gladly withdraw my statements, but I'm pretty sure I'm not special, hence have normal reactions...

And I don't know about you but I'd much rather be anxious about temporary skin reactions than expect perfect skin after a treatment and freak out when I don't!

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