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#127426 - 08/10/18 11:54 PM Re: Suggestions on my case and DIY info [Re: HairByHair]
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Question:

If you can't see the root of zapped hair ( even after it came out with zero resistance) does it mean that you broke the hair somewhere along the shaft? i.e. the current did not get delivered to the root but to the shaft just above root?

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#127427 - 08/11/18 12:05 AM Re: Suggestions on my case and DIY info [Re: HairByHair]
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possibly.Likely even. The way the root comes out in one piece with ease is the best measure you have of an effective kill in the follicle. No root sheath=no bueno!
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#127431 - 08/11/18 11:52 AM Re: Suggestions on my case and DIY info [Re: HairByHair]
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What Seana said is true, but if you are talking about one hair, it could be a hair that was just hanging out longer than it should, after it reached the end of its life. It could be a hair that was zapped a while back and was not lifted out of the follicle? Not every single hair will look like a complete, intact structure when it is lifted out. There are always some oddballs.
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#127435 - 08/12/18 01:55 AM Re: Suggestions on my case and DIY info [Re: HairByHair]
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Thanks a lot Seana and Dee for your replies!!

I plucked a couple of hair of the same thickness and length to see what's happening...it looks the same as zapped hair. I think it's new growth because I had almost cleared the area before. Maybe the hair didn't take complete hold and hence does have an obvious root. But it's shaft end is kinda whitish.

I'll start reading again on hair growth phases and all related stuff that there is... maybe most of my doubts are just confusion in my head. I never liked bio and the names of the phases just add to my inability to understand grin!!

I have noticed following things so far,
1. Thick hair (which has been regularly plucked) has black bulb as a root with gel like tube on the shaft. After zapping you can see both the bulb and gel.

2. Hair which hasn't been plucked, and is thinner than above har has white root which is visible after zapping.

3. The newly growing hair has whitish shaft end but no obvious root.

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#127441 - 08/12/18 11:08 AM Re: Suggestions on my case and DIY info [Re: Iluv2zap]
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The current is same. I measured with a multimeter. And the iye froth is also forming. What I meant by no scabbing is it's really less compared to what I was getting without modification...it formed on the next day...

Reason for this is that with modification, the needle is inserted first and then the current starts. And while removing, the current stops.. Earlier the current would start as soon as the needle touches skin.

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#127444 - 08/12/18 06:57 PM Re: Suggestions on my case and DIY info [Re: HairByHair]
Iluv2zap Offline
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White bottom of the hair is the telltale sign. I believe you may be seeing telogen hairs. If you look under magnification, do you see almost something that looks like a grain of sand ? That , believe it or not, is all you get left of a root sheath when the hair ages and is getting ready to shed. The hair rises in the follicle and the upper layers are less moist than the deeper tissues, as a result the sheath becomes dry and desicated.This is the final growth phase before the hair sheds .

On the "One Touch" modifications, I have some thoughts on what you are doing. If I understand correctly, you have bypased any "switch" and are inserting the needle hot. This isnt a great idea, as a conducting needle will go through flesh like the follicle wall, much more easily. It's called " going in hot" and often ends in inacurate insertions ( you dont "feel" the needle puncturing the follicle wall it enters easily) .

On the one touch the metal band around the "probeholder" is the Anode side of the connection, and for good conductivity the meal surface should minimize resistance with salt water. . We do this with a chunk of steel bar that people hold in their hands on professional equipment.The needle itself, is wired to the cathode ( negative) side of the circuit.

The best one touch mods, are those that incorporate a professional grade probeholder and a better contact surface for the anode and a seperate wire for that. Any "switches" would be internal to that circuit. Mostly, they are junk and not worth trying to modify to that extent though, especially since you can frequently get a professional grade machine off kijiji craigslist or ebay, for a few hundred bucks that is way more capable and useable than the one touch ever dreamed of being.


Edited by Iluv2zap (08/12/18 07:14 PM)
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#127445 - 08/12/18 09:15 PM Re: Suggestions on my case and DIY info [Re: Iluv2zap]
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I understand that safety is important. The thing with hot wire used to happen before...you are supposed to hold the pen (which has a metal band) with fingers moistened with salt water. Because of this, as soon as you touch the needle to skin, the current starts. now i have shifted the manual control on current to foot. I start and stop current with my toe moistened with salt water. So now I use the toe only when I know that the needle is properly inserted into the follicle. If you want to know the details, I'll elaborate. I was just trying to make the post shorter earlier, so I didn't write much. smile

I live in India and I have been searching for used machines here. I have been able to find only one person so far who said 2000 dollars (I converted it from rupees for you) for a used machine called apilus junior. I didn't even get into any details about it because this is way way out of my budget.

The machines available on ebay or kijiji seem affordable for 100 but those won't work in India because of different power specifications. I'll research about this more for sure. Thanks.

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#127452 - 08/14/18 08:18 PM Re: Suggestions on my case and DIY info [Re: HairByHair]
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From looking at your photos, HairB, I can't see how you'll be able to do DIY on the sides of your face, even with a professional machine .. I've had great success with the One Touch but I only had chin hairs to tackle.

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#127460 - 08/15/18 08:57 AM Re: Suggestions on my case and DIY info [Re: HairByHair]
HairByHair Offline
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Registered: 08/03/18
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Loc: India
Question :

I tried 2 hair on forehead and 2 below the jaw line today.

For forehead, instead of feeling a zap, o could feel a pulse ( ?? I don't know how else to describe it) about an inch from the spot where I had inserted the needle.

For hair below jawline this effect was more enhance and I could feel such a big pulse near my lower lip that it twitched.

Is this normal for these areas?

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#127479 - 08/16/18 10:50 PM Re: Suggestions on my case and DIY info [Re: HairByHair]
HairByHair Offline
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Anyone? This was quiet a scary experience. I haven't come across anything saying galvanic is dangerous. But it cannot be right to feel the pulse somewhere else. I tried one more hair yesterday near eyebrow, and felt the pulse in the scalp. Am I doing something wrong?

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