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#127708 - 09/28/18 11:40 AM Re: Looking for a marathon electrologist [Re: whyme6464]
Michael Bono Offline

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Well, you're not getting the definitive answer you want ... because there is no definitive answer. Dr. Heimlich is right, Seana is right and so is Josefa. Where you go from here is your call.

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#127711 - 09/28/18 08:50 PM Re: Looking for a marathon electrologist [Re: whyme6464]
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I worked as DIY with galvanic with true manual blend machine and I'm sure I used lots of lye and didn't stick to text book formulas and I don't have any scaring to report from DIY. I only noticed PIH/hyper pigmentation which is resolving on its own.

I highly recommend going the Blend machine route for DIY as thermolysis is very rapid and high power so margin for error is low. Get a blend machine that has automatic option or can deliver both currents with 1 pedal it will be much easier than working with 2 pedals on yourself considering that with Blend or Galvanic you have to keep your insertions perfect and steady for longer periods in a follicle and every movement becomes an issue.

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#127712 - 09/29/18 10:46 AM Re: Looking for a marathon electrologist [Re: whyme6464]
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Well, there you are: fenix is correct too! Four answers and all correct!

On the "blend formulas?" Not ONE expert "blender" EVER uses the formulas. I don't use them, and stopped "doing the math" ages ago. WHY?

Think about this. When you learn a foreign language, you have to learn the grammar. Once you understand it, you never think about the grammar again, because you "just know it." It sounds right.

Can you imagine thinking about, say, past/present participles before you speak? You probably don't even know what the parts of speech are!

Do you know what a gerund is? (Well, here it is: A gerund is the “-ing” form of a verb when it functions grammatically as a noun in a sentence. Gerunds are identical in appearance to present participles, but they are not used to form tenses of the verb or provide adjectival information.) Do you EVER think about this?

Most native speakers don't know their own rules of grammar. And, this is exactly how the "blend formulas" should be used. Horribly, the computerization of some machines took this "blend-grammar issue" literally and made it "absolute" ... BIG BIG mistake.

One day, when I get off my big butt, I'll do a video on this ...


Edited by Michael Bono (09/29/18 10:47 AM)

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#127713 - 09/29/18 11:22 AM Re: Looking for a marathon electrologist [Re: Josefa M. Reina]
adrien_sanchiz Offline

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Originally Posted By Josefa M. Reina
Originally Posted By TSTimmi
... I also think I read that the follicle "kill" success rate is lower in straight thermolysis.


Do not believe everything you read ... especially when it concerns the capacity of the different electrolysis modalities.

What do you think about these results with straight thermolysis and with a single clearing?


Before:


4 months later:


It is not an example of a beard, but after all, the only thing that differentiates follicles from others is location and size.




This is (as always) impressive results ! Thanks for sharing it. You demonstrated that this is not the modality that allows getting good results but the electrologist’skill.
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#127714 - 09/29/18 11:54 AM Re: Looking for a marathon electrologist [Re: Michael Bono]
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Which is why I'm looking at the Elite Spectrum instead of Apilus and others. I'm told it can do the computerized blends and manually set blends and most machines are NOT capable or easy to do both ways. Do you think the air option is worth the extra money or not so much?


Edited by TSTimmi (09/29/18 11:55 AM)

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#127715 - 09/29/18 04:15 PM Re: Looking for a marathon electrologist [Re: TSTimmi]
Josefa M. Reina Offline

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I do not know if the air option represents a big difference because I bought my Spectrum without that accessory. However, the machine itself is designed to offer a slightly more comfortable treatment.

If I'm not wrong, the purpose of the air is to cool the treated area, something that you can replace by applying compresses moistened in cold water or in some cooling substance.

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#127717 - 09/30/18 11:14 AM Re: Looking for a marathon electrologist [Re: whyme6464]
Deedra Offline

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Josefa, my opinion exactly!

I had the air option on my Gentronics digital and most of my clients found it annoying. I used it infrequently, but at least I had it as another option in my toolbox.
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#127718 - 09/30/18 11:20 AM Re: Looking for a marathon electrologist [Re: TSTimmi]
Deedra Offline

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Originally Posted By TSTimmi
Which is why I'm looking at the Elite Spectrum instead of Apilus and others. I'm told it can do the computerized blends and manually set blends and most machines are NOT capable or easy to do both ways. Do you think the air option is worth the extra money or not so much?


I use Apilus and I have TOTAL control to make my own settings / recipes in blend and thermolysis. There are thousands of ways to do this. They have presets, but most of us go beyond those presets and we have TOTAL CONTROL.

I always feel obligated to contradict this falsehood. I don’t know why it persists.
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