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#14546 - 04/16/03 11:37 PM Re: Has anyone ever performed laser hair removal on themselves?
Andrea Administrator Offline
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Can'twait2bfree, this should be all the evidence you need.

1. The manufacturer says it's not designed for hair removal.

The manufacturer says that the products "are not CDRH listed or certified," a requirement for legitimate hair removal lasers sold here.

2. Ripped off consumers have shared their stories.

http://www.hairfacts.com/makers/global-electrolysis-supply/reports.html

3. There is no clinical data of any kind.

4. The device is not the type of laser used in hair removal. It's like the laser that reads bar codes at the supermarket. Next time you're in the checkout lane, hold your arm over one for a while and tell me if it removes your hair.

Anything else you need to be convinced, let me know. This just scratches the surface of what scam artists these people are.

[ April 16, 2003, 11:45 PM: Message edited by: Andrea ]

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#14547 - 04/17/03 01:39 PM Re: Has anyone ever performed laser hair removal on themselves?
Marta Offline
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Registered: 01/09/03
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By just using common sense, I presume that real laser hair removal equipment for home use will never become available. Without proper training, the risks to cause severe and permanent eye damages is extreme. The power levels neeeded for laser epilation makes, with neccecity, the devices absolutely unforgiving.

Those who want to know more about the risks involved by lasers, please read at http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/lasersam.htm . After that it will be quite obvious why real laser epilation is, and will forever stay, a pro-only business.

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#14548 - 04/17/03 05:58 PM Re: Has anyone ever performed laser hair removal on themselves?
Andrea Administrator Offline
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As reported in 2002, the FDA does have legitimate lasers cleared for home use, like the SpaTouch.

The Global Electrolysis type scams are not among them. Everything by Global Electrolysis should be avoided.

The SpaTouch and other lasers for home use in development will be low-power devices that will not cause a permanent result.

You can read the thread about the SpaTouch by Radiancy with the letter from the FDA regulator here:

http://www.hairtell.com/cgi-bin/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=32;t=000005

Again, the Global scam is nothing like this device.

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#14549 - 04/19/03 09:23 AM Re: Has anyone ever performed laser hair removal on themselves?
Zoo Owner Offline
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Registered: 04/09/03
Posts: 7
Loc: Pittsburgh
Well -- it looks like this has certainly stirred quite a conversation! I received the "laser" yesterday. I did appear to remove anagen hair only. Whether or not this will be a permanent removal is uncertain but now I'm just praying that I didn't get ripped off! Supposedly the company has a 90-day satisfaction guarantee. The machine that I purchased is supposed to be for facial hair. Does anybody else have any input on this or was this just a slow and fancy way of temporarily removing hair?

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#14550 - 04/19/03 09:40 AM Re: Has anyone ever performed laser hair removal on themselves?
Andrea Administrator Offline
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You should read this step-by-step quide to how Global Electrolysis Supply denies refunds:

http://www.hairfacts.com/makers/global-electrolysis-supply/ripoff.html

Includes a consumer like you who failed to get a dime back.

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#14551 - 04/21/03 04:01 PM Re: Has anyone ever performed laser hair removal on themselves?
furry Offline
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Registered: 04/21/03
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Did you follow the instructions listed on their website? According to their instructions, you must tweeze or wax the hair before applying the laser; or did you shave the hair then laser? Was there any pain, odor, smoke, or any other sign that it actually worked?

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#14552 - 04/22/03 04:40 PM Re: Has anyone ever performed laser hair removal on themselves?
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Registered: 04/09/03
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Loc: Pittsburgh
There was a little smoke, a burning smell and very little pain but I used a topical anesthetic because I'm a big chicken! I am going to try my upper lip this evening and see what happens. I tell you, the facial hair is the only thing I don't like about being a fair skinned Italian! [Smile]

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#14553 - 04/22/03 06:39 PM Re: Has anyone ever performed laser hair removal on themselves?
Zoo Owner Offline
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Registered: 04/09/03
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Loc: Pittsburgh
Well -- I tried this thing on my upper lip and it didn't do anything!!! Now I'm going to see what I have to do to get my money back. Oh well -- P.T. Barnum said that there was one born every minute!

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#14554 - 04/24/03 02:49 PM Re: Has anyone ever performed laser hair removal on themselves?
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Registered: 04/09/03
Posts: 7
Loc: Pittsburgh
Andrea -- I am awaiting an RMA # from Global Electrolysis. It looks like I might have an easier time exchanging for another product. Do they have anything, in your opinion, that might work? I REALLY wish I had found this site before I ordered the darn thing. For what I've spent, I could have gotten my entire legs done by a professional in the area. Also - include a picture of your kitties, please? I have 3 dogs, 3 cats and 2 goldfish and I absolutely ADORE my cats!!!

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#14555 - 11/12/03 05:13 PM Re: Has anyone ever performed laser hair removal on themselves?
roc Offline
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Registered: 08/12/03
Posts: 13
Hi everyone .
I seen this on ebay .
Epila ( Laser hair eliminator for personal use )
# CT-808 for $300 us
Will this work or it is a scam ?
Thanks for any info

Update Adaera This where
I founded it 3 days left. Item number #2963868239

[ November 12, 2003, 10:54 PM: Message edited by: roc ]

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