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#36753 - 10/21/06 02:35 PM What happens if you've had all hair removed and then decide to juice?
henrys Offline
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Wouldn't the use of anabolics most likely cause the growth of new hair or would it activate hair follicles which were "sleepers" before? This would suck.

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#36754 - 10/21/06 03:41 PM Re: What happens if you've had all hair removed and then decide to juice?
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Anything that caused stimulation of the right hormones, and/or increased blood supply to the follicles that previously did not grow hair, or had unnoticed vellus hairs could cause a situation where terminal hairs could form.

If one had achieved full permanent removal, however, the picking off of these new hairs would be childs play for an experienced practitioner.

I have clients who come in every 3 to 6 months for appointments where we do more talking than treating while I hunt down 100 or 200 hairs from the entire area we used to need 30 hours just to get a foot hold on. There is a lot of search in these Search And Destroy Missions.

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I was going to try to ignore the fact that you are not suggesting Dole Pineapple Juice in your subject line but I just can't ignore it. Evil James has taken over! >;-)

Do yourself a favor, save yourself from an early grave (Lyle Alzado, Rick Rude ring a bell?). If you insist on "juicing" please allow me to take out a term life insurance policy on you. The $40,000 or less I will spend will return me $2,000,000 when you die in your 40's or early 50's

My friend the late Don Lemmon proved that given a proper eating schedule, food separation, and utilizing economy of exercise, one could build a natural body that beats juicers if given the time. Sure Juicers get quick results, and then they have to deal with the losses ... loss of friends due to their roid rages, loss of sexual performance, problems in the renal, liver and kidney systems, and so on.

I highly recommend that you read "Know How Book One" and "Know How Book Two" (there are 4 in the set, but no one who is not planning to be a personal trainer needs to read more than one and two in my opinion.) These are available at www.buylemmon.com


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#36755 - 10/21/06 04:12 PM Re: What happens if you've had all hair removed and then decide to jui
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Does this mean that usually hair removal is never permanent and that you have to come back all the time to get new hair removed?

I ask myself wether getting a testosterone replacement therapy for having low testosterone would cause a growth of new hair. My testosterone is pretty low so maybe I should get replacement first and then wait a few months to see if new hairs are growing and then have them removed. Because if I remove them now and later on get testosterone replacement I might end up having more hair than before.

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#36756 - 10/21/06 04:21 PM Re: What happens if you've had all hair removed and then decide to jui
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Angelic James has returned

Here is what you must understand:

Permanent Hair Removal is by definition the removal of the hair that is there. One cannot remove what is not there.

One can remove all the hairs that you have now, growing out of the follicles that are growing hair now, and with those you are done.

Does everyone have other hairs growing in the same area the rest of their lives, requiring treatment every year for the rest of their lives? No.

Could future hormone stimulation cause you personally to need more work? Yes.

Is it woth it to start now? Yes.

Would it be cheaper to wait and start later? No

Other books well worth your reading are "Your Body's Many Cries For Water" by Dr. F. Batmanghelidj, MD and "The Diet Cure" by Julia Ross.
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#36757 - 10/21/06 07:12 PM Re: What happens if you've had all hair removed and then decide to jui
henrys Offline
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Hi James,
thanks for your tips!
I am not planning to juice.But the problem is that even at my age (25) my T levels are already very low. My libido is low, too. And my strength is also low. I think sooner or later I will be forced to get TRT. Low Testosterone in men is also linked to various diseases. This means I'm not even doing myself a favor by refusing to get TRT.
Sooner or later I will have to get it but what scares me is that I'm already very hairy with my low T levels. My upper body is not so hairy even though I am getting new hair on the arms,shoulders and back. But my lower body looks like bigfoot which totally annoys me. I'm scared that getting TRT might trigger even more hair growth making my upper body become as hairy as my lower body. This would suck big time!
This and also the fear of becoming bald are the main reasons why I haven't tried TRT yet.

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#36758 - 10/21/06 07:57 PM Re: What happens if you've had all hair removed and then decide to jui
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Take some time and read those books, and give it 30 to 90 days to try what you learn, then email me @ExecutiveClearance@Gmail.com to let me know how things are going.

As for the hair you have, it can be removed, and you can put it behind you. You just need to find someone good to do it, so you can get the most work done, for the least money, with the best skin result.
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#36759 - 10/21/06 09:19 PM Re: What happens if you've had all hair removed and then decide to jui
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Quote:

Take some time and read those books, and give it 30 to 90 days to try what you learn, then email me @ExecutiveClearance@Gmail.com to let me know how things are going.






Thanks a lot.

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#36760 - 12/16/06 07:25 AM Re: What happens if you've had all hair removed and then decide to jui
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I am sorry for being ignorant, but I really need to know this. When you say "Juices" are you all referring to 'body building supplements'.

I am into body-building (using supplements) AND have a facial (unwanted, outside the beard area) problem.

I have observed that the problem started after I started taking supplements. My friend who is an actor uses heavy supplements, but then also pays a lot of money regularly to skin and hair doctors, becuase he can afford it.

So is it true, supplements apart from being harmful for the body, promote facial and body hair growth too?

Thanks!

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#36761 - 12/16/06 06:13 PM Re: What happens if you've had all hair removed and then decide to jui
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When we said "Juice" we were discussing the dark side leaning towards steroids, and such. Any short cut to body building gains causes havoc with the system, and increased hair growth comes from hormonal imbalances. That goes for men as well as women. Men developing diabetes often tend to have increased hair growth everywhere but on their scalp.
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#38534 - 01/21/07 06:52 AM Re: What happens if you've had all hair removed and then decide to jui [Re: James W. Walker VII]
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My experience, I have never juiced, but I have a two friends who do. I don't know them very well, but I know they do indeed use Anabolic Steroids. I am extremely hairy 1000% hairier than they are, and I've never used Anabolic Steroids. One of them has done steroids for 4 years, and although I'm sure he'll die at a younger age than me, he has by far less hair than me. And so does the other friend is almost virtually hair free and doesn't even shave. I am sure that steroids cause hair growth though, as I've read, but probably not to the degree that most think it does.

How many times when you are at the gym do you see all the roider guys have lumps of hair on their chest and what not? Just about never. I tell you what, it seems like the people that are the most ripped are the least hairy. The hairest guys I see are fat, overweight, and most likely have insulin hair growth, and that is on their back.
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