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#39044 - 02/06/07 06:57 PM Current Laser/IPL Models
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Currently manufactured models of lasers are the following (by brand name - type of laser - manufacturer):


Acclaim 7000 - Nd:YAG - Cynosure
Apex 800 - Diode - IRIDEX

Apogee 5500 - Alexandrite - Cynosure

Apogee 6200 - Alexandrite – Cynosure

Apogee 9300 - Alexandrite – Cynosure

Apogee Elite – Alexandrite/Nd:YAG – Cynosure

Aurora – Intense pulsed light (IPL)/RF - Syneron

Comet – Diode/RF - Syneron

CoolGlide CV - Nd:YAG – Altus/Cutera

CoolGlide Xeo - Nd:YAG – Altus/Cutera

CoolGlide Vantage - Nd:YAG – Altus/Cutera

CoolGlide Excel - Nd:YAG – Altus/Cutera

Cynergy PL - IPL - Cynosure

DeLight - Flashlamp - Radiancy

Dualis XP – Nd:YAG - Fotona

EpiLight - IPL – ESC/Lumenis (This device is actually a flashlamp and not a true laser for hair removal.)

EpiStar DS series - Diode - Nidek

EsteLux - IPL – Palomar

Fidelis XP – Nd:YAG - Fotona

Galaxy – IPL/RF - Syneron

Gemini - Nd:YAG - Laserscope

GentleLASE - Alexandrite – Candela

GentleYAG – Nd:YAG – Candela

LightSheer (SC, EC, XC, SP, EP) - Diode - Coherent Star/Lumenis

Lyra-i - Nd:YAG - Laserscope

LPL - IPL - Lambda Scientifica

Lumenis One - IPL/Nd:YAG - Lumenis

MediLux - IPL - Palomar

MeDioStar XT - Diode - Asclepion-Meditec

NaturalLase 1064 - Nd:YAG - Focus Medical

NaturalLase LP - Nd:YAG - Focus Medical

NeoLux - IPL - Palomar

PhotoGenica LPIR - Alexandrite – Cynosure

PhotoLight - IPL - Cynosure

PhotoSilk Plus - IPL – Cynosure

Pitanga – IPL/RF - Syneron

RubyStar+ - Ruby - Asclepion-Meditec

SkinStation - IPL - Radiancy

SmartEpil II - Nd:YAG - Cynosure

SoftLight - Nd:YAG – ThermoLase/Danish Dermatologic Development

Solis - IPL - Laserscope

SpaTouch - IPL – Radiancy

SpaTouch Pro - IPL - Radiancy

StarLight - Diode - Star Medical/Coherent

StarLux - IPL - Palomar

VascuLight Plus - IPL/Nd:YAG – ESC/Lumenis

VEGA - Nd:YAG - Lambda Scientifica
Discontinued models include the following:


Athos - Nd:YAG - Cosmos
Chromos 694 - Ruby - Mehl/Biophile

Depilase - Nd:YAG - Depilase

Depilase - Diode - Depilase

E2000 - Ruby - Palomar

Ellipse – IPL - Danish Dermatologic Development

EpiLaser - Ruby – Palomar

EpiPulse - Ruby - ESC

EpiTouch - Alexandrite – ESC/Lumenis

EpiTouch - Ruby – ESC/Lumenis

IPL Quantum HR - Flashlamp – ESC/Lumenis

LaseAway - Alexandrite - Silver Creek Medical

LaseAway - Ruby - Polytec PI/Lambda

Lorad - Nd:YAG - Focus Medical

MedLite - Nd:YAG - Continuum

MLT R694 - Ruby - MLT International

MultiLight - PhotoDerm - Flashlamp – ESC

PhotoDerm - Flashlamp - ESC

SLP 1000 - Diode – Palomar

SmoothLASE - Alexandrite – Leisegang/Cooper

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#39058 - 02/07/07 12:14 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: LAgirl]
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This list is going to be so helpful. Thanks you so much lagirl!

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#39096 - 02/07/07 08:35 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: Konstantina]
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I'm not sure how old this is. I should add

Sonata - diode
Soprano - diode

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#39511 - 02/21/07 10:46 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: LAgirl]
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Hi...First of all I have to say thank you so very much for sharing your seemingly inexhaustable amount of knowledge on LHR and hair removal in general. That being said, what have you heard, if anything, about the Sciton Pulse Dual Nd Yag?

Thanks...

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#39515 - 02/21/07 11:40 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: jaynes]
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It's supposed to be a good Yag laser. It has scanning technology that supposedly helps prevent missed spots. Don't know how effective it is. Haven't heard anything bad about it.

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#40318 - 03/16/07 03:05 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: LAgirl]
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How do you know which one to buy??

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#41045 - 04/07/07 10:38 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: Hknox]
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Lagirl, are there any low end models of IPL's that run for less than 5K? I'd like to find a used IPL, not for permanent removal, but for temporarily "IPL epilation" to use in my home for my chest and stomach. I've read of Phillips I believe coming out with a system in home use calling it "laser epilation" i believe, which is pretty much what I would like to accomplish.
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#41048 - 04/08/07 12:53 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: Chuck]
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I'm not sure if a cheap effective one exists. It might be worth getting a used professional machine, though I don't know how safe it would be to use at home and if it's legal in your state.

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#41203 - 04/13/07 08:50 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: LAgirl]
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Just to clarify, all the machines that say "IPL" are Intense Pulse Light systems and the following phrase next to Epilight applies to all of them:

"This device is actually a flashlamp and not a true laser for hair removal."

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#45009 - 08/18/07 06:00 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: LAgirl]
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I saw some machines from this site and would like to know if these will work. Seems like some of the lower end models (LD2k, LD20K) are quite affordable compared to going to a professional laser treatment center if you're treating extensive areas. They seem to be pretty confident in their products with that 100% satisfaction guarantee also. Thoughts?

http://www.centre-biotechnique-avance.com/11.05.02/Packages.htm

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#45011 - 08/18/07 06:56 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: testingthis]
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there are a bunch of threads on these machines. if they worked, we would all be using them instead of paying for professional treatments. and clinics would also be buying $2-5K machines, instead of $50-100K ones.

please run a search using the search feature to read more on these and other home machines.

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#45199 - 08/25/07 09:24 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: LAgirl]
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Thank you so much, Lagirl, for sharing the information. \:\) that's the most useful "hair-removal" forume I've ever read. \:\)

I have a question to the list of lasers you posted. In my region the choise of Candela lasers is not that wide, I've found only 1 GentleLase so far. \:\) (don't know if it's alexandrite or not, I've made an inquiry with them) Or, are all gentlelase are alexandrite?

And I found another laser used by one doctore, named GentleYAG.
I've never heard anything about this one. Does anybody has any experiance with it?

Julia

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#45253 - 08/28/07 12:58 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: Nuar]
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both of these machines are listed above in the list.

alexandrite, diode and yag are types of lasers. the machine names are models by different manufacturers. eeach type of made by varioues companies, and some area better than others. which you need depends on your skin type. please read the FAQs to determine which you need. both of the above are good machines, so which you need depends on your skin type.

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#47748 - 12/04/07 06:24 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: LAgirl]
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I met with someone that is highly skilled and very confident! She uses the Scition Yag and IPL. SHe says IPL is great to great a deeper wavelenght and finer hairs. She says it is all in the skills of the person, not just the machine. Anyone had luck with this machine? Everyone is so Gentelase and I met a women too who says she has great luck with it, but on brazilian woulnd't go with higher joules and if the hair is in anagen, you can kill a hair at 10 or 12 joules. HElp!

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#47952 - 12/11/07 04:24 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: want2bclear]
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please read the FAQs. you're trying to compare apples and oranges. the link is below.

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#48074 - 12/14/07 07:20 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: LAgirl]
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What about aculite?

http://www.aculight.co.uk/

Does that use one of the listed machines (IPL), or is it a system in it's own right, as the website seems to imply?

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#48077 - 12/14/07 08:07 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: crimsone]
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It's an IPL

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#49183 - 01/30/08 01:45 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: LAgirl]
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lagirl,

A colleage of mine is thinking of buying an Axiom IPL for hair removal.

To date, I have never seen anyone who has had any lasting permanent hair reduction with an IPL. Have you heard anything about the Axiom IPL? I think it's new. Is it on your list under another name?

I have learned to trust you and I respect your knowledge.

Sincerely,
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#49193 - 01/30/08 06:16 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: Arlene R. Batz, CPE]
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I haven't heard of that one specifically. However, the technology of IPL is not as good for hair removal purposes as a true laser. If their main purpose is to provide the best hair removal possible for their clients, I would strongly recommend getting a true laser. GentleMAX by Candela is a new machine that combines alex and Yag machines for light and dark types into one. They may want to look into it instead.

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#49509 - 02/16/08 10:09 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: ]
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This has nothing to do with the topic of this thread. These spammers are like the those annoying solicitation calls we get all day long. Bang! Bang!
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#50883 - 04/11/08 05:34 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: testingthis]
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Has anyone had any experience with a CYNOSURE Apogee 20 TKS Laser (Alexandrite)? How does this machine compare with other Alexandrite Lasers? For that matter, is there much of a difference from one Alexandrite laser to another?

Thanks,
Shaggy 'n SF

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#50906 - 04/11/08 06:08 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: shaggy-in-sf]
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Please post a new thread. This is a standard Alexandrite laser. You should find out what the spot size is. They vary on Apogee machines from 12mm to 15mm. The bigger, the better.

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#50930 - 04/12/08 07:23 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: LAgirl]
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Will do. Thx!

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#51022 - 04/15/08 04:24 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: shaggy-in-sf]
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I'm not sure if this was posted here in the past, but this is a pdf document that shows all the lasers out there, company, wavelength, joules, pulse length, price, scan area, etc...

It has some great info!


http://www.miinews.com/pdf/0205_hair.pdf

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#51026 - 04/15/08 05:08 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: shaggy-in-sf]
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The CYNOSURE Apogee 20 TKS Laser has a 12.5mm spot size, so is certainly on the smaller end of the spot size spectrum.

Regards,
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#51610 - 05/03/08 10:11 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: Benji_boy]
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i just found out that the skn clinics london are using the apogee 755 elite, i was just wondering if anybody knew anything about it? since its not on your list. i dont really understand all these names of lasers and what they actually mean :S

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#51622 - 05/03/08 09:57 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: PaleBoy]
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It's an alexandrite machine.

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#51736 - 05/07/08 08:40 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: PaleBoy]
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The spot size on the machine is 15mm and the pulse can also go down to 5ms.

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#51870 - 05/11/08 09:48 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: Benji_boy]
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hi,
is there any difference between "mini gentlelase" and "gentlelase plus" machines? if yes, which is better in killing the hair?

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#51882 - 05/11/08 06:40 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: hairmair]
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Not a huge difference. Either is fine.

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#52461 - 05/29/08 06:48 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: ]
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This is not a professional laser machine.

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#54596 - 08/05/08 08:11 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: testingthis]
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Hi, Does anyone know anything about a "laser" called Syneron Laser? It says it is a combination of laser and IPL, but I haven't heard anything about it, ever. Apparently it has also been used to get rid of cellulites, but I am of course more interested in its ability to remove hair.

//Hanna

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#54599 - 08/05/08 01:28 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: hannahanna]
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I think you better look onward, hannahanna. This light-based system (Aurora) was developed in Israel around the early 2000's and they claimed it would affect light hairs. There are testimonials here about it not being very effective on light hairs. No laser can "see" light colored hairs.

Can you describe your situation? Location of the hair, color of hair, color of skin? Is the hair thick or thin?


Dee
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#54605 - 08/05/08 09:15 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: dfahey]
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I wouldn't recommend going with Syneron. Are you exploring going to one of the national chain clinics. If so, I would urge you to run a quick search and read the reviews first.

If you're interested in getting results with LHR, please start a new thread with more information about the areas, hair type, etc so we can help you get the best treatment possible.

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#55886 - 09/16/08 04:42 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: testingthis]
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I know there is different lasers recommended based on skin types. I'm probably skin type IV (asian indian). There is one doctor who uses Gentlase (alexandrite laser). He recommends me to use Obagi system (skin lightener plus retin-a) and then do laser reduction. Another doctor has Gemini (Nd:Yag) laser. Based on my skin type, I would assume Nd:Yag is safer? However in the internet, I've seen conflicting reviews on which laser is more effective in hair reduction? Does anyone have a good article on efficacy between the 2 lasers? Thank you.

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#55888 - 09/16/08 09:00 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: munci9]
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Your skin type is in between. I woudn't irritate your skin with any skin lighteners only in order to be able to use that one clinic's laser. They can test if high enough settings are safe on your skin. If they're not, go with a Yag.

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#56159 - 09/25/08 09:58 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: testingthis]
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Is quanta system manufacture a good laser?

It is not in the list


Edited by Singh (09/25/08 09:59 AM)

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#56165 - 09/25/08 05:55 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: Singh]
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They are on the list. It's the Fotona Yag systems. Don't know much about them since they're not popular in the US.

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#62348 - 05/08/09 06:59 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: LAgirl]
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I would say from my experience I find that the best laser machine is the Soprano Xl - much faster, not painful (you need no pain killers) and great results. On my opinion it is the ultimate machine today.
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#62350 - 05/08/09 07:40 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: odi]
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What IS your experience? Performing treatments? What other lasers are you experienced in using?

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#62355 - 05/08/09 08:52 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: odi]
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Sounds like we have another spammer on our hands.

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#62360 - 05/08/09 09:42 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: LAgirl]
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Yes, poster 'odi' truly comes across as spammy.
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#62364 - 05/09/09 11:42 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: Choice]
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I am not a spam, just speaking from my own experience over the years.I have performed thousands of treatments with lasers and IPL machines.Also had clients who used to be treated with various machines and can compare their feelings and results with this machine. I am not saying other lasers like Lightsheer are bad. They are doing the job well but with much more pain than the Soprano XL. Also with the Soprano I don't have to worry too much for burns...its just don't happens.
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#62848 - 05/24/09 05:53 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: odi]
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Burns happen on all machines (because it doesn't depend on the machine, but on the person using it and setting inappropriate settings for specific skin types) and lack of pain usually means that treatments are not powerful enough. It HURTS to heat up the hair follicle enough to damage it permanently. Since you've only been using the machine since December 2008, i.e. for 6 months, you can't know how permanent the results are yet for your customers. You need to give it at least 6 months AFTER they're done with treatments, which in itself takes at least 1 year.

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#64174 - 07/16/09 07:28 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: LAgirl]
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I'm male and have gone for 3 sessions with the Lumenis One LightSheer and have had really good results on my abdomen. It hurts a bit when getting it done but nothing unbearable, and they have rubber squeeze balls to assist. I recommend this one based on my experiences.

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#64283 - 07/20/09 06:30 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: ]
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I have been undergoing treatments with Candela's Alexandrite Gentlelase laser in the past year. Is this supposed to be one of the best lasers?

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#64289 - 07/20/09 02:21 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: norcal1980]
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Yes, GentleLASE is one of the best for light skin (at high enough settings and on the right type of hair of course)

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#64306 - 07/21/09 05:56 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: LAgirl]
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Well, my skin is very light, but my hair is very thin and light brown. This is why to destroy these hairs I probably need a good high setting, which is fine with me as I have a very high pain threshold. Do you know what settings are considered appropriately high enough? Right now, we just increased my setting to 16.

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#64307 - 07/21/09 06:02 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: norcal1980]
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Laser doesn't work on thin hair. It doesn't matter what the settings are. You need electrolysis.

Please start a new thread. This thread is for names of machines only.

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#64336 - 07/22/09 06:51 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: LAgirl]
Lee M
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Hey LAGirl question for you, not sure if this is the best place. I checked yelp.com for fun for laser in Toronto and found one that a person really recommended due to their low prices. I checked their site and it really is fairly inexpensive, but I emailed to see what laser they use and they said: CoolGlide NDYAG 1064+.

If I'm not mistaken, I think I saw you say YAG isn't good? I go to a good clinic right no wthat's really expensive but I get discount since I know someone that works there so no plans on changing, but this new places pricing was about the same as what I pay after discount.

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#64349 - 07/23/09 03:10 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: ]
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Yags are good for skin type IV and darker. It will also work on light skin, but only on the most coarse hair.

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#64355 - 07/23/09 03:47 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: LAgirl]
Lee M
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Is there some way I can check online on a chart or something what skin type I am? I'm white, but have some native in me, so if I didn't go in the sun for months I'd be fairly light but not pasty like some of my other white friends. Then if I spent a day in the sun I'd be really tanned, so I'd say my skin is normally a bit tanned. Was just curious since their pricing is really reasonable. As I had mentioned in my other post to you, my discounted rate on my abdomen is $150 so I assumed if I wanted to do both forearms it would be a lot at my place, where as this one I'm looking at now is $100 for forearms so just seems like a good price.

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#64359 - 07/23/09 06:01 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: ]
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Like I said above, it's more important whether your hair is very coarse if you're going to use a Yag.

Please start a new thread. We can discuss further there.

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#64604 - 07/31/09 09:10 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: LAgirl]
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Has anyone tried Xemos laser hair removal? I have never had laser hair removal done before but am very close to buying Xemos because it isn't too expensive to try. I would be very grateful if anyone who has tried it can tell me if it is easy to use, how long does one treatment take and just their overall experience. I would appreciate if very much. Thanks in advance.

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#64624 - 08/01/09 06:33 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: me11i]
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I came across this website which helped me know which type of laser is suitable for my skin type:

http://www.hairlaserremoval.co.uk/laser-hair-removal-type.htm

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#64626 - 08/01/09 06:38 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: ashley07]
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Hi LA Girl. I had laser treatment when it first came out in the UK in the mid 1990's - some hospital near London - I had Ruby laser which didn't work. Prior to this, I had electrolysis professionally, and in the late 90's early 2000's, had laser treatment using Softlight (Yag), which was semi-successful.

I'm asian (Indian) and am light brown in skin colour. Is a Diode type laser best suited for my skin (for best results) and is this staement true: "The Diode laser is the most effective hair removal light source by far" as stated on the hairlaserremoval.co.uk website?

Finally, are Sk:n any good and are you aware of the laser types they use. Thanks in advance.

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#64711 - 08/06/09 02:50 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: ashley07]
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No, that website is not unbiased.

What's best depends on your skin type. For your ethnic background, you likely need a Yag laser. Be aware that laser only works on coarse hair.

Ruby is NOT a good laser for you. You didn't get results because they would have had to use very low settings in order to avoid burning you with it. It's meant for very pale skin only and is not manufactured anymore. Softlight is not really a Yag. It's a gimmick and one of the worst machines out there.

Look for good Yags like GentleYAG, Coolglide, Apogee Elite, Sciton, etc.

Please start a new thread.

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#64756 - 08/07/09 04:55 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: LAgirl]
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hi, anyone know about the i5 Intensive Skin Light? which admitted was manufactured from Italy's company
Is it true that european's machine is much more better than china's machine?


Edited by bonzle (08/07/09 04:57 AM)

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#64819 - 08/10/09 03:35 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: bonzle]
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Can't find any information on it online. Sounds like a IPL machine, which isn't good for hair removal.

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#64871 - 08/12/09 09:06 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: LAgirl]
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do you mean IPL isn't good for hair removal or this i5 Intensive Skin Light isn't good for hair removal?
can you lead me to the thread that consulting about IPL machine problems?
because my friend got some problem with it, which already done the hair removal treatments for 10 times already but didn't got any result.
the fifth times the hair growth was reduce but when do for the 10 times the growth hair suddenly grow just like before do any treatment and also become worse

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#64876 - 08/12/09 02:30 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: bonzle]
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Both. This is explained in the FAQs at the link below. Please read them.

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#65054 - 08/19/09 02:13 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: LAgirl]
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Hi..im new here..just wanna ask you guys what do u think is the most effective laser hair removal (Home Use)..i just saw this Xemos.. but from reading to ur forum.. im having doubts now..

im a female student that have hairs like those in gorilla (not exaggerating..its true)..and being a female in my adolescence yrs. i want to wear skirts..shorts but i couldnt since i hate hairs like those in men in my legs..

ive been doing shaving for 4yrs..but got tired of it since it grows after 3days..so i changed to waxing.. that also grows after 2-3wks.. but ofcourse ITS PAINFUL.. im really tired of every month pain hehe..so i decided to look for permanent hair removals.. and i saw this Home Used Laser hair removals

since im only a student..im going to ask my parents to pay it for me (what u recommend to be most effective) so i also nid it to be NOT TOO EXPENSIVE..

my criteria will be:
-permanent
-100% effective
-inexpensive
-not SCAM

i hope u will help me with this...

tnx so much

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#65119 - 08/20/09 08:28 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: Chan10]
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Even the professional clinics can't give you that criteria, and you can forget about a home use device.
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#65185 - 08/22/09 10:41 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: odi]
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What you want doesn't exist. Professional laser treatments is your best option which will get rid of 95%+ of the coarse hair if you do your research to find the right clinic with the best laser for your situation. Please read the FAQs below.

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#65964 - 09/15/09 06:32 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: LAgirl]
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You forgot to add the new Soprano laser by Alma lasers which is the only painless laser on the market and there are loads of clinic chains offering this treatment

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#65980 - 09/16/09 03:54 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: Jo33]
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You forgot to read through this thread before posting. It's already been mentioned and discussed.

The painlessness of it and effectiveness is not really confirmed or established. There are consumers here who've tried it along with other machines and didn't find it less painful or more effective. Just because "loads of clinic chains" are using it doesn't mean it's any good. Most clinics use IPLs - the reason is that they're cheap machines, not because they're great.

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#66949 - 10/25/09 07:47 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: LAgirl]
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Hi

Been sent the below response with regards to a laser enquiry. My skin type is IV and having looked at the FAQ'S, should hopefully be effective. Has anyone come across this particular laser by Mythos and would you know if it is effective on IV skin types? Thanks. Ash

The diode laser is called the Mythos distributed in the UK by ABC lasers - it is an 800nm wavelength similar to the original Lightsheer diode laser but with better cooling at the tip and with a variable pulse width, long or short (as appose to the original lightsheer that only had short pulse so it had difficulty treating darker skins without burning).

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#66951 - 10/25/09 10:00 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: ashley07]
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I don't know that machine but diode laser is very effective for type 1-4 and less effective for 5 and kinda bad idea for 6.

All of that is in theory of course.
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#66972 - 10/27/09 05:26 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: odi]
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LightSheer didn't only have a short pulse. It went up to 100ms without problems and was also variable. This diode sounds pretty similar, so not sure how they're trying to differentiate it. Whatever they're saying is not true, which would make me suspicious.

Either way, you need to check out 3-4 clinics at LEAST in person. So have a consultation there, but also compare to others.

For skin type IV, which is in between, alex, diode or Yag could work. They need to test your skin to see what would work best in terms of effective settings. If you can handle high enough settings on an alex without burning, then alex is best. if not, then diode or Yag are next best AT GOOD settings.

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#67003 - 10/27/09 05:01 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: ]
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any chance you remember the name of the place that had nd yag laser?

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#67011 - 10/27/09 09:44 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: Rakhi]
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Who are you addressing? The most important thing is the person treating you. Knowledgeable clinics don't use crappy lasers.

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#67089 - 10/28/09 10:11 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: LAgirl]
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I've since received another response from the clinic owner (following further questioning from me). Feel free to comment. I personally don't believe this clinic to be suspicious as they've recommended me another clinic within their response:

"Nd Yag is probably more effective on dark skin (type V) than diode BUT only treats a very small area at a time, and is more painful. Type IV skin diode and Nd YAg are probably much the same -maybe NdYAg edges it but pain is worse and takes longer to treat each treat becasue size of the head is so small. I am skin type IV myself (light inidan/asian) and have used the Diode to great success so I still believe the diode is a really effective machine, but if you want ot try the NdYAG there is a clinic in Leicester called FEMI that has one.

With all lasers, same machines work better on some body parts than others, eg, my own underarms - excellent results in 4-5 treatments with amost no new growth after 5 years; my own chin (more hormonal stimulus) 10 +treatments, hairfree for only 12 months then small areas of new growth requiring repeat/maintenace treatments every 6-8 months; between eyebrows 4 treatments and hair free for 5 years and counting. These are same laser, same person, different body parts!"

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#67095 - 10/29/09 02:55 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: ashley07]
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That sentence is completely inaccurate. Whoever said that knows nothing about how lasers work and what types of lasers are out there.

There are various Yag lasers made by various manufacturers and various diode lasers made by various manufacturers. Both types have a bunch of options with various spot sizes available (that's the size of the laser "head", so that's what impacts how big of an area you can treat and how fast). Pain also doesn't depend that much on the laser type. It mostly depends on the type of hair you're treating. DENSE COARSE hair is most painful because it absorbs the most energy.

If there is NEW hair appearing after 6 months since last treatment, it's NOT regrowth. It's NEW hair that your body is developing. If this is happening on a woman's face, there is likely a hormonal disorder like PCOS. That's something one should look into before starting any treatments - i.e. the CAUSE of the hair in the first place. If there is something in your body causing it to grow, it won't continue doing that even if you remove the hair that's currently there.

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#67429 - 11/12/09 06:07 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: LAgirl]
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Are you talking above about the Lightsheer Duet? There was something in the NY Times about it over the summer. Is it a new generation laser?

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#67432 - 11/12/09 06:54 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: hankm77]
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LightSheer duet is a diode laser. The only thing "new" about it is that it has a huge spot size, so treating legs and so on is much faster since it covers a very large area. Other than that it's still the same technology as regular LightSheer it's still a diode.

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#67434 - 11/12/09 07:03 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: ]
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Thanks edokid. The article made it sound sort of revolutionary. IE no pain, larger spot, less treatments, etc. I'll look into it.

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#67453 - 11/13/09 02:14 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: hankm77]
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It suppose to hurt less than any previews LightSheer.
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#67454 - 11/13/09 03:09 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: odi]
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It uses a vacuum to suck your skin up towards it to get it closer to the laser when it fires. I'm guessing that helps with pain since it's stretching the skin and you get more of a sensation of the suction than the laser. It definitely looks good for large areas though. Diode lasers are the only kind I haven't tried myself though.

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#68004 - 12/05/09 12:51 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: ]
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Pneumatic skin flattening is the technical term for suction. It apparently blocks pain receptors, leading to lower pain. Here's an article on this issue:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18830870?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_SingleItemSupl.Pubmed_Discovery_RA&linkpos=1&log$=relatedarticles&logdbfrom=pubmed
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Excellent results with electrolysis on chest and moustache to remove grey hair.

Tria bought and returned. Used it extensively on a small portion of my arms, but hair has since grown back fully.

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#69397 - 01/31/10 12:50 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: testingthis]
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There is a training DVD that shows how to use two different machines, an IPL and a combined Alexandrite/YAG laser machine.

The Complete Guide to Laser Hair Removal, features two physicians — Christine Whitelaw, M.D., and Mark B. Taylor, M.D.

This DVD explains how to perform laser hair removal on the face, underarms, back, bikini area, and legs, with demonstrations on male and female models with different Fitzpatrick types. It also discusses the different laser options, benefits and contraindications, hair growth cycle, treatment regimens, and procedure guidelines.

Click here to see a video clip of this laser hair removal DVD.

Just scroll down, it's the third DVD on the page and if you click on "view details" or "view video excerpt" you can see a free video clip.

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#69399 - 01/31/10 01:44 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: Annie G]
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Normally, we would bounce a spammer like this so fast it would make your head spin.

Although this spammer is still in violation of the contribute by actually answering questions with something other than a spam link, we will allow it, as the actual product looks like a valid and useful thing that would edify our membership.
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#72036 - 03/31/10 06:51 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: James W. Walker VII]
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#73621 - 05/02/10 05:52 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: LAgirl]
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Hello everyone

I wonder if anyone has already tested the device IPL800 Deluxe

w w w.discount-salon-supply.com/IPL800.html

I know that this is a cheap device, but I'm still interested or is it possible to remove the hair - home use.


Edited by James W. Walker VII, CPE (05/04/10 12:49 AM)
Edit Reason: disabled link to rip off device

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#73643 - 05/03/10 02:29 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: andrej]
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Thanks for the spam from Centre Biotechnique. James, can we remove this?

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#73648 - 05/03/10 04:56 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: LAgirl]
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I do not know why you suggest to remove my question. I only asked for an opinion.
If you do not want to answer go ahead...
Sorry for my bad English!
Regards!

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#73658 - 05/03/10 01:11 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: andrej]
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I don't think getting this device for home use is a good idea, andrej. I'm pretty sure you will get ripped off.

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#73660 - 05/03/10 02:23 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: dfahey]
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Read HairFacts.com. Devices by this company are discussed there and on the forum. They don't work and you'll have a hard time getting a refund they promise. If they worked, all clinics would be using them instead of $50K+ machines.

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#73725 - 05/04/10 05:31 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: LAgirl]
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Thanks for the information. I decided that I will not buy the device.

What is your opinion on the devices for personal use Silk'n or Remington 5000?

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#73728 - 05/04/10 06:57 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: andrej]
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You can read the threads on this forum regarding the Silk'n and Tria. Those are the only two that are somewhat recommended. Don't expect miracles though or much of a permanent result. They're great for touchups after you've done a round of professional treatments.

Once again, please understand that all lasers only work on dense coarse hair, like that on bikini, underarms, etc.

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#81917 - 01/16/11 10:19 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: testingthis]
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Thanks for the info....
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#85054 - 03/24/11 04:38 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: LAgirl]
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Originally Posted By: LAgirl
I haven't heard of that one specifically. However, the technology of IPL is not as good for hair removal purposes as a true laser. If their main purpose is to provide the best hair removal possible for their clients, I would strongly recommend getting a true laser. GentleMAX by Candela is a new machine that combines alex and Yag machines for light and dark types into one. They may want to look into it instead.


I was just going to ask about GentleMAX! Candela is of course doing a lot of bragging about this combo machine. Know anyone who has had enough of an experience with it to tell about results? I live in Chicago and can't find any nearby practitioners on their search function who use one of these machines. Maybe clinics are waiting to drop the dough until it's a little more road tested. I Think i'm a decent GenleLase candidate so perhaps I won't try and hold out until I find a place that has this new unit.

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#85057 - 03/24/11 06:22 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: ChicagoHarriet]
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Candela's GentleLASE and GentleYAG are some of the best on the market. GentleMAX is basically a combination of the two. So it's just as good. They just offer clinics the ability to buy one machine for both light- and dark-skinned patients with this model. If you're light enough for GentleLASE, there is no reason to look for GentleMAX.

Apogee Elite by Cynosure offers the same combo. They also have the new MPX model.

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#85348 - 03/31/11 11:38 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: testingthis]
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Just to add in the list: Soprano XL - a.k.a "Pain-free, hair-free laser machine" I believe it is one of the latest and high-end type of machine. Others call it 'The Maserati of Laser Hair Removal'.

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#85352 - 04/01/11 12:17 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: affordablelaser]
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There's another one for IPL - The PhotoNova PLS3 system was designed by the Swedish guys who started the whole IPL/hair removal technology back in the early 1990′s.:)

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#87615 - 05/20/11 12:51 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: affordablelaser]
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I had Candela GentleMAX removal on my face about 5 years ago (dark, coarse hairs from PCOS). In four treatments, it removed 100% of the really dark coarse hairs, and I don't believe they ever grew back (I have a couple now, but I think they're new hairs because I switched birth control pills a couple of times when they popped up). The medium-brown slightly finer hairs almost completely disappeared. I still have a few coarse blondish or colorless ones that I pluck because they feel stubbly (but they're invisible). All in all, I was thrilled with the results and would highly recommend it to anyone with my skin type, which is... actually, I'm not sure. Because I avoid the sun/wear sunscreen now, I'm very fair with dark body hair. But before I started doing that, I tanned extremely easy and rarely burned, which sounds like type V. Hope this helps!

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#92473 - 10/04/11 02:10 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: ]
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Part two of rachard's post should have included advice as to what one should do after laser reduction . Part two would have been the recommendation that electrolysis should be considered for the remaining light hair. Do you mention electrolysis to your clients as well, rachard?
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#92474 - 10/04/11 02:25 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: James-Smith2011
LAgirl had shared a great listing. I wanted to confirm how do I know which one among them is the best?


You can go check them out. If she mentioned certain business, then they must all be worthy of consideration.
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#92624 - 10/10/11 01:53 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: dfahey]
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Anyone heard of ARIA SHR? It's for aft laser hair removal

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#92643 - 10/11/11 08:34 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: LAgirl]
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you can find information about hair removal in here:
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#93942 - 11/30/11 09:11 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: LAgirl]
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I don't see this one on your list, LA Girl- but it looks legit?

THANK YOU FOR YOUR INCREDIBLE HELP.

http://www.cutera.com/technology/flash-lamp/prowave/

ProWave (770-1100 nm), combines unrivaled treatment speed with optimal results and safety. Maximum versatility is achieved multiple wavelength technology enabling treatment modes from Alexandrite to Diode to near Nd:YAG.
Clinical studies showed > 80% hair reduction six months post three treatments.
Skin Type Mean Range
Type I-II 83% 65-95%
Type III 93% 90-98%
Type IV-V 73% 30-95%
Christine Lee, MD study (USA)
Table 1 Number of sites Mean number of hairs at baseline Mean number of hairs after treatment Hair reduction rate
Mode A 15 42.0 8.3 81.81%
Mode B 15 39.6 7.6 80.47%
Total for modes A and B 30 40.85 7.95 81.14%
Kei Negishi, MD study (Japan)
ProWave’s versatility speaks for itself. Push button control automatically shifts the wavelength and pulse width tailoring the treatment to optimize hair removal efficacy.
Fast treatment speeds save time and money. Time for an average back is 15 minutes, full legs in 10 minutes.
No numbing cream is required — still another time-saver.

FDA Clearance: ProWave is cleared for permanent hair reduction.

Product Specifications
Wavelength 770 - 1100 nm
shifted based on Program A, B or C
Fluence 5 to 35 J/cm2
Spot Size 10 x 30 mm
Pulse Width Automatic, based on Program A, B or C
Repetition Rate Up to 2 Hz

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#93972 - 12/01/11 10:49 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: LAgirl]
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The reason there are so many is due to the fact they are very cheap to manufacture, consequently, everybody thinks they will make a lot of money by making and selling them. This attracts more manufacturers and now we have a GLUT. Pretty soon there will be more mfctrs than customers.

Pretty soon all who want one will have one and prices will come down as they battle each other for sales.

The number of PRE-owned lasers is growing rapidly. Many operators have given it up. They went into business under financed and can't take the heat.

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#96335 - 03/06/12 05:29 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: testingthis]
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Hello, Everyone

I need HELP!, I have a couple questions.

First, I am finally hired to work in a practice doing Laser Hair Removal, but now i live in florida and the law here requires me to have a medical director i have my gynecology willing to be the one, now, what will be a fair fee or commission to pay to the doctor?

Also this practice have 2 different machines 1, the candela yag and the alexandrite, can you tell me the settings depending on the skin type? Is being a while since i took my license.

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#96423 - 03/08/12 04:45 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: testingthis]
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I tried performing a search for the LHE machine but nothing came up. Has anyone heard of that machine? If so, what type of laser is it?

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#99523 - 06/18/12 07:02 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: LAgirl]
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Hello,

I really want to do hair removal, but I am not sure which type will be the best for my skin.
I think that my skin color is typr IV or a littlelighter then that. My hair color is black.
Can you please give me an advice, so I will know how to start looking at the area where I leave?

Thank you for helping

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#99526 - 06/18/12 10:02 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: Faf]
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Hi Faf.

You wan to look for a place that has a Yag laser. That would suit your skin type better. What area are you concerned with? Is your har coarse and dense?
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#105697 - 03/26/13 02:19 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: testingthis]
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Out of these lasers which would you choose and/or not choose for hair removal on Type III skin, dark hair: Cutera CoolGlide, Cynosure Apogee Elite, Lumenis LightSheer diode or GentleYag?

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#106690 - 05/09/13 11:22 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: testingthis]
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Has any one had experience or heard of Emma Diode Laser by Sincoheren.

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#106691 - 05/09/13 11:35 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: KP303]
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KP303,

The Candela GentleYag provides the highest average power of the lasers you mentioned. While the Cynosure Apogee Elite Modular offers greater options for different skin/hair types, for type III skin with dark hair, the GentleYag gives you better options. The 18mm spot size give you the greatest amount of energy per follicle out of the systems mentioned. This reduces treatment time, as well as increases efficacy.

One laser you did not mention is the EpiCare LPX. This is an Alexandrite laser which also has a max 18mm spot size. Even in skin type III though, this laser is much better than the GentleYag because it has a max average power of 100W.
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#106692 - 05/09/13 11:41 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: Astra]
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The only system FDA approved for use in the US is the Sincoheren IPL. The Emma Diode is not FDA approved for use in the US, and the transfer, sale, or use of this system in the US is a violation of federal law.
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#106983 - 05/17/13 01:23 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: testingthis]
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If you would like to see an IPL and a combined Alexandrite/YAG laser machine being used during a laser hair removal procedure, there is a laser hair removal online training video you can watch. Just click on the link and scroll down to click on the link to view the video excerpt.

Two physicians — Christine Whitelaw, M.D., and Mark B. Taylor, M.D. — demonstrate step-by-step procedures and parameter considerations on an IPL and a combined Alexandrite/YAG laser machine. Demonstrations are on male and female models with different Fitzpatrick types.
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#119244 - 08/30/15 10:21 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: LAgirl]
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The current list of laser/IPL's is longer today, in 2015.

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#119245 - 08/31/15 10:00 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: LAgirl]
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Your screen name assumes you are a laser doctor? Can you provide a link, or something else, for a current list of lasers/IPL's for hair reduction?
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#119295 - 09/09/15 05:36 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: LAgirl]
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No, I do not have a list. I just noticed that a couple missed.

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#120453 - 01/06/16 05:33 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: LAgirl]
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