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#39044 - 02/06/07 10:57 AM Current Laser/IPL Models
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Currently manufactured models of lasers are the following (by brand name - type of laser - manufacturer):


Acclaim 7000 - Nd:YAG - Cynosure
Apex 800 - Diode - IRIDEX

Apogee 5500 - Alexandrite - Cynosure

Apogee 6200 - Alexandrite – Cynosure

Apogee 9300 - Alexandrite – Cynosure

Apogee Elite – Alexandrite/Nd:YAG – Cynosure

Aurora – Intense pulsed light (IPL)/RF - Syneron

Comet – Diode/RF - Syneron

CoolGlide CV - Nd:YAG – Altus/Cutera

CoolGlide Xeo - Nd:YAG – Altus/Cutera

CoolGlide Vantage - Nd:YAG – Altus/Cutera

CoolGlide Excel - Nd:YAG – Altus/Cutera

Cynergy PL - IPL - Cynosure

DeLight - Flashlamp - Radiancy

Dualis XP – Nd:YAG - Fotona

EpiLight - IPL – ESC/Lumenis (This device is actually a flashlamp and not a true laser for hair removal.)

EpiStar DS series - Diode - Nidek

EsteLux - IPL – Palomar

Fidelis XP – Nd:YAG - Fotona

Galaxy – IPL/RF - Syneron

Gemini - Nd:YAG - Laserscope

GentleLASE - Alexandrite – Candela

GentleYAG – Nd:YAG – Candela

LightSheer (SC, EC, XC, SP, EP) - Diode - Coherent Star/Lumenis

Lyra-i - Nd:YAG - Laserscope

LPL - IPL - Lambda Scientifica

Lumenis One - IPL/Nd:YAG - Lumenis

MediLux - IPL - Palomar

MeDioStar XT - Diode - Asclepion-Meditec

NaturalLase 1064 - Nd:YAG - Focus Medical

NaturalLase LP - Nd:YAG - Focus Medical

NeoLux - IPL - Palomar

PhotoGenica LPIR - Alexandrite – Cynosure

PhotoLight - IPL - Cynosure

PhotoSilk Plus - IPL – Cynosure

Pitanga – IPL/RF - Syneron

RubyStar+ - Ruby - Asclepion-Meditec

SkinStation - IPL - Radiancy

SmartEpil II - Nd:YAG - Cynosure

SoftLight - Nd:YAG – ThermoLase/Danish Dermatologic Development

Solis - IPL - Laserscope

SpaTouch - IPL – Radiancy

SpaTouch Pro - IPL - Radiancy

StarLight - Diode - Star Medical/Coherent

StarLux - IPL - Palomar

VascuLight Plus - IPL/Nd:YAG – ESC/Lumenis

VEGA - Nd:YAG - Lambda Scientifica
Discontinued models include the following:


Athos - Nd:YAG - Cosmos
Chromos 694 - Ruby - Mehl/Biophile

Depilase - Nd:YAG - Depilase

Depilase - Diode - Depilase

E2000 - Ruby - Palomar

Ellipse – IPL - Danish Dermatologic Development

EpiLaser - Ruby – Palomar

EpiPulse - Ruby - ESC

EpiTouch - Alexandrite – ESC/Lumenis

EpiTouch - Ruby – ESC/Lumenis

IPL Quantum HR - Flashlamp – ESC/Lumenis

LaseAway - Alexandrite - Silver Creek Medical

LaseAway - Ruby - Polytec PI/Lambda

Lorad - Nd:YAG - Focus Medical

MedLite - Nd:YAG - Continuum

MLT R694 - Ruby - MLT International

MultiLight - PhotoDerm - Flashlamp – ESC

PhotoDerm - Flashlamp - ESC

SLP 1000 - Diode – Palomar

SmoothLASE - Alexandrite – Leisegang/Cooper

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#39058 - 02/06/07 04:14 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: lagirl]
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This list is going to be so helpful. Thanks you so much lagirl!

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#39096 - 02/07/07 12:35 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: Konstantina]
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I'm not sure how old this is. I should add

Sonata - diode
Soprano - diode

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#39511 - 02/21/07 02:46 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: lagirl]
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Hi...First of all I have to say thank you so very much for sharing your seemingly inexhaustable amount of knowledge on LHR and hair removal in general. That being said, what have you heard, if anything, about the Sciton Pulse Dual Nd Yag?

Thanks...

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#39515 - 02/21/07 03:40 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: jaynes]
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It's supposed to be a good Yag laser. It has scanning technology that supposedly helps prevent missed spots. Don't know how effective it is. Haven't heard anything bad about it.

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#40318 - 03/15/07 08:05 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: lagirl]
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How do you know which one to buy??

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#41045 - 04/07/07 03:38 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: Hknox]
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Lagirl, are there any low end models of IPL's that run for less than 5K? I'd like to find a used IPL, not for permanent removal, but for temporarily "IPL epilation" to use in my home for my chest and stomach. I've read of Phillips I believe coming out with a system in home use calling it "laser epilation" i believe, which is pretty much what I would like to accomplish.
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#41048 - 04/07/07 05:53 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: Chuck]
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I'm not sure if a cheap effective one exists. It might be worth getting a used professional machine, though I don't know how safe it would be to use at home and if it's legal in your state.

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#41203 - 04/13/07 01:50 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: lagirl]
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Just to clarify, all the machines that say "IPL" are Intense Pulse Light systems and the following phrase next to Epilight applies to all of them:

"This device is actually a flashlamp and not a true laser for hair removal."

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#45009 - 08/17/07 11:00 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: lagirl]
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I saw some machines from this site and would like to know if these will work. Seems like some of the lower end models (LD2k, LD20K) are quite affordable compared to going to a professional laser treatment center if you're treating extensive areas. They seem to be pretty confident in their products with that 100% satisfaction guarantee also. Thoughts?

http://www.centre-biotechnique-avance.com/11.05.02/Packages.htm

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#45011 - 08/17/07 11:56 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: testingthis]
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there are a bunch of threads on these machines. if they worked, we would all be using them instead of paying for professional treatments. and clinics would also be buying $2-5K machines, instead of $50-100K ones.

please run a search using the search feature to read more on these and other home machines.

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#45199 - 08/25/07 02:24 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: lagirl]
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Thank you so much, Lagirl, for sharing the information. \:\) that's the most useful "hair-removal" forume I've ever read. \:\)

I have a question to the list of lasers you posted. In my region the choise of Candela lasers is not that wide, I've found only 1 GentleLase so far. \:\) (don't know if it's alexandrite or not, I've made an inquiry with them) Or, are all gentlelase are alexandrite?

And I found another laser used by one doctore, named GentleYAG.
I've never heard anything about this one. Does anybody has any experiance with it?

Julia

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#45253 - 08/27/07 05:58 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: Nuar]
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both of these machines are listed above in the list.

alexandrite, diode and yag are types of lasers. the machine names are models by different manufacturers. eeach type of made by varioues companies, and some area better than others. which you need depends on your skin type. please read the FAQs to determine which you need. both of the above are good machines, so which you need depends on your skin type.

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#47748 - 12/04/07 10:24 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: lagirl]
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I met with someone that is highly skilled and very confident! She uses the Scition Yag and IPL. SHe says IPL is great to great a deeper wavelenght and finer hairs. She says it is all in the skills of the person, not just the machine. Anyone had luck with this machine? Everyone is so Gentelase and I met a women too who says she has great luck with it, but on brazilian woulnd't go with higher joules and if the hair is in anagen, you can kill a hair at 10 or 12 joules. HElp!

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#47952 - 12/10/07 08:24 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: want2bclear]
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please read the FAQs. you're trying to compare apples and oranges. the link is below.

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#48074 - 12/14/07 11:20 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: lagirl]
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What about aculite?

http://www.aculight.co.uk/

Does that use one of the listed machines (IPL), or is it a system in it's own right, as the website seems to imply?

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#48077 - 12/14/07 12:07 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: crimsone]
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It's an IPL

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#49183 - 01/30/08 05:45 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: lagirl]
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lagirl,

A colleage of mine is thinking of buying an Axiom IPL for hair removal.

To date, I have never seen anyone who has had any lasting permanent hair reduction with an IPL. Have you heard anything about the Axiom IPL? I think it's new. Is it on your list under another name?

I have learned to trust you and I respect your knowledge.

Sincerely,
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#49193 - 01/30/08 10:16 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: Arlene R. Batz, CPE]
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I haven't heard of that one specifically. However, the technology of IPL is not as good for hair removal purposes as a true laser. If their main purpose is to provide the best hair removal possible for their clients, I would strongly recommend getting a true laser. GentleMAX by Candela is a new machine that combines alex and Yag machines for light and dark types into one. They may want to look into it instead.

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#49509 - 02/16/08 02:09 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: ]
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This has nothing to do with the topic of this thread. These spammers are like the those annoying solicitation calls we get all day long. Bang! Bang!
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#50883 - 04/10/08 10:34 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: testingthis]
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Has anyone had any experience with a CYNOSURE Apogee 20 TKS Laser (Alexandrite)? How does this machine compare with other Alexandrite Lasers? For that matter, is there much of a difference from one Alexandrite laser to another?

Thanks,
Shaggy 'n SF

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#50906 - 04/11/08 11:08 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: shaggy-in-sf]
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Please post a new thread. This is a standard Alexandrite laser. You should find out what the spot size is. They vary on Apogee machines from 12mm to 15mm. The bigger, the better.

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#50930 - 04/12/08 12:23 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: lagirl]
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Will do. Thx!

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#51022 - 04/15/08 09:24 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: shaggy-in-sf]
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I'm not sure if this was posted here in the past, but this is a pdf document that shows all the lasers out there, company, wavelength, joules, pulse length, price, scan area, etc...

It has some great info!


http://www.miinews.com/pdf/0205_hair.pdf

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#51026 - 04/15/08 10:08 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: shaggy-in-sf]
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The CYNOSURE Apogee 20 TKS Laser has a 12.5mm spot size, so is certainly on the smaller end of the spot size spectrum.

Regards,
Benji
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#51610 - 05/03/08 03:11 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: Benji_boy]
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i just found out that the skn clinics london are using the apogee 755 elite, i was just wondering if anybody knew anything about it? since its not on your list. i dont really understand all these names of lasers and what they actually mean :S

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#51622 - 05/03/08 02:57 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: PaleBoy]
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It's an alexandrite machine.

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#51736 - 05/07/08 01:40 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: PaleBoy]
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The spot size on the machine is 15mm and the pulse can also go down to 5ms.

Regards,
Benji
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#51870 - 05/11/08 02:48 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: Benji_boy]
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hi,
is there any difference between "mini gentlelase" and "gentlelase plus" machines? if yes, which is better in killing the hair?

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#51882 - 05/11/08 11:40 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: hairmair]
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Not a huge difference. Either is fine.

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#52459 - 05/29/08 11:32 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: lagirl]
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See a Video of the NEW Light-based device, SILK’N. Under Physician direction patients will purchase the device from a doctors office and use it in the privacy of their own home.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=verE3EcQMIY

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#52461 - 05/29/08 11:48 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: lazrgirl]
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This is not a professional laser machine.

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#54596 - 08/05/08 01:11 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: testingthis]
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Hi, Does anyone know anything about a "laser" called Syneron Laser? It says it is a combination of laser and IPL, but I haven't heard anything about it, ever. Apparently it has also been used to get rid of cellulites, but I am of course more interested in its ability to remove hair.

//Hanna

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#54599 - 08/05/08 06:28 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: hannahanna]
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I think you better look onward, hannahanna. This light-based system (Aurora) was developed in Israel around the early 2000's and they claimed it would affect light hairs. There are testimonials here about it not being very effective on light hairs. No laser can "see" light colored hairs.

Can you describe your situation? Location of the hair, color of hair, color of skin? Is the hair thick or thin?


Dee
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#54605 - 08/05/08 02:15 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: dfahey]
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I wouldn't recommend going with Syneron. Are you exploring going to one of the national chain clinics. If so, I would urge you to run a quick search and read the reviews first.

If you're interested in getting results with LHR, please start a new thread with more information about the areas, hair type, etc so we can help you get the best treatment possible.

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#55886 - 09/15/08 09:42 PM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: testingthis]
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I know there is different lasers recommended based on skin types. I'm probably skin type IV (asian indian). There is one doctor who uses Gentlase (alexandrite laser). He recommends me to use Obagi system (skin lightener plus retin-a) and then do laser reduction. Another doctor has Gemini (Nd:Yag) laser. Based on my skin type, I would assume Nd:Yag is safer? However in the internet, I've seen conflicting reviews on which laser is more effective in hair reduction? Does anyone have a good article on efficacy between the 2 lasers? Thank you.

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#55888 - 09/16/08 02:00 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: munci9]
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Your skin type is in between. I woudn't irritate your skin with any skin lighteners only in order to be able to use that one clinic's laser. They can test if high enough settings are safe on your skin. If they're not, go with a Yag.

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#56159 - 09/25/08 02:58 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: testingthis]
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Is quanta system manufacture a good laser?

It is not in the list


Edited by Singh (09/25/08 02:59 AM)

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#56165 - 09/25/08 10:55 AM Re: Current Laser/IPL Models [Re: Singh]
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They are on the list. It's the Fotona Yag systems. Don't know much about them since they're not popular in the US.

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