Hi there.
Andrea, I got a question here.
Since, the Laser Hair removal doesn't guarantee any results, costs a lot and may burn you, isn't it a good idea to look into Oram Medicaitions ?
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I just want to ask you, because you know it much better then me:

What are the possible side effects ?
What are this side effects in compare to the possible side effects of Laser.
What, do you think is the best Drug for men made by a reputable company?
What doctor should I consult with ? Dermotologist ?

Thanks you in advance and have a great day.

The oral medications that can reduce body hair are called anti-androgens. The problem is that they often have other effects, too, especially at doses high enough to affect body hair growth. These include sterility, sexual dysfunction, breast growth, and changes in metabolism. That's why they are usually only prescribed to those who need to recuce their androgens significantly.

Your should talk to a dermatologist or endocrinologist. If you are placed on them , they will usually do several blood tests first to see what your hormone levels are.

hey teen,
Andrea is pretty much right, but i'll tell you what my endocrinologist said exactly.... first off, even if you have low testosterone, you can be hairy. I for example had low testosterone.
What does this mean? it means that your hair follicles are overly sensitive to the androgens that exist, even if there are few. So flutamide ONLY blocks the androgens from being recepted and triggering hair growth; They do NOT affect, do NOT change your hormone levels. This is good, because as a man, changing the hormones can have bad side effects. But also... flutamide slows hair growth, but to kill the follicles, you must do laser also, and then the flutamide makes this VERY effective. This is what i'm told. I just started flutamide. Hope that's helpful. Feel free to ask my any more detailed questions.
Laterz

Andrea- Do they cause sterility in women? If so, which ones? Spironolactone, flutamide or finasteride? Also how does Propecia help too much facial hair in women but at the same time can increase testosterone? This is the first I've heard of propecia for too much hair.
Alli

so am I correct that flutamide doesn't change testosterone levels but spironolactone does?

alli

No, that is not correct. Androgen blockers are simply that; "blockers". They block androgens from binding to the receptor site in the hair follicle. Neither Flutamide nor Spiro are meant to lower testosterone levels. That is why if you're a woman, you should also be on the pill while taking an androgen blocker, among other reasons. Here's what the pill can do for you while on and androgen blocker:

1. prevents pregnancy, don't want to feminize a male fetus wile on Spiro
2. regulates the period, which Spiro or Flutamide can have an effect on
3. lowers testosterone levels, can lower the level by 50% with the right one, such as Yasmine. Lowering your testosterone makes and androgen blocker much more effective.


I was reading other comments on this thread as well, and I am surprised to see that men are taking or have been prescribed androgen blockers. From everything I've researched, it shows that men shouldn't take an androgen blocker.

At low levels it should not be a problem, but if it is high enough to completely block receptors for a long period of time, osteoporosis can become an issue. I know of at least one MtF who is only on spiro (no E or anything else). Seems like a bad idea to me...

She will need Electrolysis if she ever wants to rid herself of the hair. Many things can thin the hairs, but Permanent Hair Removal won't happen from taking drugs.

Is it correct that spironolactone thins the hair and even makes it come in slower?

I was also wondering if since it is only an androgen blocker and it does not lower testosterone would it be safe to say that since I started taking it before I had my full female hormone panel lab tests taken that the spiro did not affect the testosterone results? (I started a month before the test and it was a month long test). I would want to know so I don't have to worry that my testosterone is normally even HIGHER.

Let's be consistent here. If Spiro is "only" an androgen blocker to androgen receptors, and doesn't affect testosterone directly, then you can't get osteoporosis from it and it wouldn't affect a developing baby. It wouldn't mess up a menstrual cycle or cause men to grow breast tissue.

The fact is, it does affect some of the free testosterone in your blood and will lower it to some degree. Spiro, however, is mainly used as an androgen blocker... that doesn't mean that's all it does. It's really not terribly effective at lowering free testosterone all by itself.

The hair does slowly get lighter and the growth is slowed when taking Spiro. I do in fact know some women who never had electrolysis and just took the Spiro. Contrary to claims that course hair will always be course, these women had the hair finally subside just with that drug and nothing else. That is how it was discovered the Spironolactone had anti-androgenic properties to begin with: people were noticing that it affected hirsutism.

(It was actually originally made for lowering blood pressure, which it isn't so good at.)

I wouldn't want to forego electrolysis and "wait it out", myself!!