#47505 - 11/24/07 10:10 AM
Laura's Playground
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This is a transgender, crossdresser support site that offers a wealth of helpful information. Five pages on the site are updated daily. Laura's Playground has many well-trained and informed contributors that offer so much support in many and varied areas. There is a teen page as well. Aside from the supportive nature of the site, it is a fun place to visit in many ways. If anyone here knows of transgender friendly electrologists or laser offices that have offered you great care, then please contact Monica-Jennifer with your information, as Monica is updating and adding to the roster. International information is also welcome. Please help out if you would like to refer your electrologist or laserologist. Her contact information is included in the link below. Laura's Playground: http://www.lauras-playground.com/transgender_electrologist_list.htmThanks everyone, Dee
Edited by dfahey (11/24/07 10:25 AM) Edit Reason: spelling
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#47507 - 11/24/07 12:15 PM
Re: Laura's Playground
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International information is wanted both for Laura's and right here on HairTell.com
We aspire to be the place where one can get information on who is good for hair removal in your town, no matter where that is. Of course, we can't do th at without you!
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#47515 - 11/25/07 05:03 AM
Re: Laura's Playground
[Re: James W. Walker VII, CPE]
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Hi:
I think a lot of electrologists would be accepting of trans clients. If someone was such an "uptight moralistic twit" that they wouldn't accept you, then you are better off seeing someone else anyways.
I was seeing my electrologist for almost 2 years in male mode before I broke the news to her that I was a TS, and would be living full time as a woman the next time she saw me and thereafter. She was fine with that and we are good friends over 2-1/2 years later.
One good thing about trans clients as far as electrologists go is that we need a lot of work and can be very loyal and regular customers. Those who have dealt with us realize that we are just like everyone else in the world, just human beings.
Alicia
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#47517 - 11/25/07 06:54 AM
Re: Laura's Playground
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Aliciadarling, is your electrologist included on Laura's Playgrouind roster? I'm assuming that you have listed her on hairtell. And yes, we want the same information about electrologists here on hairtell for sure! We always beg posters to share their good experiences. The more places this information is known the better.
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#47528 - 11/25/07 01:17 PM
Re: Laura's Playground
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I hate to brake it to you Alicia My Darling, but even though you would think that a group of clients who are looking to do an average of $10,000 - $20,000 worth of work each would be the darlings of the industry, the truth is that many electrologists are less than welcoming of Trans clients, and Male clients as well.
Some electrologists like the idea of making their money 15 minutes at a time.
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#47539 - 11/26/07 03:07 AM
Re: Laura's Playground
[Re: James W. Walker VII, CPE]
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Hi Dee:
I haven't listed my electrologist here or on Laura's site. I don't really care to do so at this time since I don't want to invite any cyber-stalkers into my own backyard. I would provide a testimonial for her on her website if she asked me to however.
I just wanted to relate my personal experience in coming out to my electrologist and the fact that she was accepting. Some electrologists advertise on transgendered club websites if they accept trans clients, so if someone is looking for an electrologist in their area they may want to check out the newsletter of the local club.
James:
I am aware that the majority of electrologists and their clients are women. I also know that some of them may be reluctant to work on men and a transitioning trans client may be seen as fitting into that category too. The business partner of my electrologist who happens to be young and pretty was stalked by a male client before, even though she was married and so was the client.To top it off she was also treating the male clients wife, so talk about awkward situations.
Alicia
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#47540 - 11/26/07 03:18 AM
Re: Laura's Playground
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Long before I had my first ts/tg client, I had been told by several electrologists the reason they would not treat ts/tg clients was because they have a reputation of bad checks and no shows. And I have to say that in my practice that has been the norm, rather than the exception. I refuse to single out one segment of the population and say, you must prepay for your appointment...cash only, so I deal with bank fees, collections, and the court system. The only client I've ever had to take all the way to trial was a ts that I offered to let her pay me $5/week until the $180 worth of checks was paid. She wouldn't respond to my calls, email or certified mail. My time away from work cost me more than $180 and I'm sure she knew that. I never got my money, and never will. She committed suicide about 3 years after we went to court.
Fortunately, when I began taking credit and debit cards, it ended the majority of those rubber checks. Still working on drilling in the 24 hour notice of cancellation.
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#47542 - 11/26/07 03:55 AM
Re: Laura's Playground
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Hi Choice:
It is unfortunate that some bad credit risk type customers can spoil it for a whole group. I can only speak for myself and my payment history. I started with laser and the sessions were quite expensive, so I paid via Visa. Then after switching to electrolysis I have paid cash. I don't think my electrologist takes checks, but I will ask her just out of curiousity. Perhaps in extenuating circumstances for a long time customer she might.
Maybe it was a matter of needing to have a policy where you don't take checks since anyone could stiff you on a check, whether they be trans or not.
Alicia
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#47544 - 11/26/07 05:39 AM
Re: Laura's Playground
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I have found, in my practice, that genetic girls are the most likely to blow off an appointment. They are also the most likely to just show up and try to get time on a day they have not even called to inquire about. (The sign says, "Hours by Appointment Only")
Although the only person to every stiff me on payment was, in fact a Trans Person, that person was just a jerk, and was trying to get clear by going to every electrologist in the 3 counties near me and getting as much free treatment on a one shot burn the electrologist basis as possible. This fool thought that would be enough to finish a full face for free! Well, the joke was on this "greedy dirty gerty", No electrologist in 100 miles will take an appointment from this person, and since 80% of the remaining hair is white, LASER (which is always cash up front around here) won't do anything for what is needed on this job.
I personally can't imagine why anyone would not have the ability to take credit cards, debit cards, and so on. There are so many iniexpinsive ways to do that.
I once offered the AEA a member's Credit Card processing service that would both represent a discount to the members, and raise money for the AEA, but they dismissed it out of hand. (So much for membership has its priviledges) All I know is that I can process a credit card payment on a the road on my cell phone, and those who choose to, can have a standing payment taken out automatically on the same day every month.
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#47590 - 11/27/07 03:51 PM
Re: Laura's Playground
[Re: Aliciadarling]
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Alicia :
I can understand your fear of posting your electrologists information. It is a valid fear. My question tho is would it not be good to ask that electrologist if they want to be listed. Rather than just going on a fear assumption that a listing would bring problems to her or you. The situation you mentioned regarding the business partner of your electrologist was that person a customer via the web or just one who one day contacted the business locally and later became obsessed with her? As with any business if a person is attractive they may run into that type out in the business world. However the majority of people who would see a list on the website I work with at Lauras-Playground, which is a support site for Transgendered individuals, would be actual Transgendered individuals seeking Electrolysis. Most are legitimately seeking to get the hair removed that marks them of their former gender role. Those who are looking for troublemaking would be more apt to try that in the chat room at Lauras rather than through the list of professional electrologists. The very fact that the list is based on professionals rather than their clients pretty much removes the interest of them from such folks who are there to seek for other than legitimate help. That is why my listing of a Electrologist on the site list includes their contact information to their direct business and not any go between on the site which might be readable by such persons interested in stalking a TS. Just so you know we have had a list of therapists on the same sight for over 3 years and not one has reported problems like the one you fear. The very nature of them not being the Transgendered person who is sought out on such a site by that type of person negates the interest in them by such a person. Thus the ones listed on our list are no more in danger than if the customers found them in a local listing in their state. I might add .. a few of the therapists are indeed very pretty women so if such were being sought out through our lists for the reasons you fear they would most likely have had that problem long ago. Seeing as that is likewise how our Electrologists are listed there is the same fact of lack of interest in them by the folks seeking the clients of the website rather than the ones who are hired by the clients.
Monica_Jennifer
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