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#47917 - 12/10/07 01:30 PM OKAY, whats the deal with Plucking and Shaving!?!
Cinnamon68 Offline
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Registered: 12/04/07
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Loc: IL.
Whats the deal with plucking and shaving? If I can not afford to do the so called greatest thing when it comes to HAIR REMOVAL known as Electrolysis!! Then what is the the best alterantive to removing hair? I'm going to guess that waxing is really the worst thing you can do when is come to HAIR REMOVAL. And if you can afford to wax all the time why not pay for the electrolysis, it's much better for you the long run. But I don't wax!!

I would also like to know if most of these places that do these types of services with certified people of course, do they offer payment plans, is this something that is done in this industry? So if you can not afford this, then is SHAVING and PLUCKING okay to do and if not what is the best way to remove hair at home.

I feel that plucking your eyebrows and lip area would have to be okay, but if not what is the best way. And I have a friend who SHAVES her lip area and she claims the hair grows back the same way as it started. But I feel she is wrong to assume that this works for all people, because people have different types of hair growing on them. And she happens to be a person that has fine, thin hair and so it maybe okay for those who have light hair, fine hair and thin hair!?! So my question is, is shaving a good idea for the upper lip area? My guess would be NO, I never did it but feel its not a SMART move!! Your chances for INGROWN HAIRS are much higher when you SHAVE the face!!

I've also used the HAIR REMOVAL CREAMS and once I accidently took off the hair on my arms with it and the hair grew back a bit thicker and more seem to come through and it was darker to me as well. This I did a long time ago but I remembered I was so mad on how the hair grew back it made me think there really is nothing out there that works and it only seems to make matters worse!! So my advice would be to not use this CRAP!!

Thank you so much for your time and listening!! Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all!!

Cinnamon


Edited by Cinnamon68 (12/10/07 01:33 PM)

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#47928 - 12/10/07 04:38 PM Re: OKAY, whats the deal with Plucking and Shaving!?! [Re: Cinnamon68]
dfahey Offline
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I would not wax or pluck hair on my face. Eyebrows are okay, but not the chin, upper lip, neck, sides, cheeks. Clipping or shaving are okay, but many women do not like the feeling of stubble and they think it makes the problem worse. It does not. Waxing, threading, sugaring can induce a bigger problem though.

If you get electrolysis, there are no payment plans usually. You pay as you go. In the beginning, appointments are longer and closer together to get all the hair off as soon as possible. Then you may need to go every three or four weeks until the you are finished. Some people may need to see their electrologist every 5-6 weeks after the first 4-6 months for sessions that are longer and closer together. Tweezing cases are more of a challenge in the beginning, SO DON'T TWEEZE, THREAD, SUGAR OR WAX YOUR FACE.

Shaving is really the best option as long as you don't cut yourself. I worked on a lady's chin today who had several cuts from shaving this morning. So be careful if you decide to shave. I like electric shavers for women the best. Shaving does not effect hair growth in anyway. It's cheap to do and is a good temporary method until you can save up for electrolysis. Most of my upper lip clients are permanently treated in 9-12 months for under $500 of less.
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#48015 - 12/12/07 05:06 AM Re: OKAY, whats the deal with Plucking and Shaving!?! [Re: dfahey]
Cinnamon68 Offline
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Thank you so much for the feed back!!

You mentioned that if you shave it does not matter the HAIR will grow back the same way it has been growing out in the past. And that it won't come back thicker or more manly by anymeans. And you're sure of this? And would I be shaving more and more compared to plucking? I tend to think I may be.

And I just have one hair that comes and goes on the bottom of my chin and I just pluck it. It's been a long time now since I last plucked it, but it may come back again. I just check by feeling the area every once in awhile and when it starts to come out, I pluck. And sometimes it's gone for a long time and sometimes it's gone for less. It seems for me anyways that hair growth is stronger in the hotter months then in colder months, that's when it tends to stay doorment. And I'm sure it has to do with the fact that the blood flow is much better in us during warmmer months. I'm just affraid if I shave that I will have to do it more often then plucking and this just makes more work for myself then I care to deal with!?! Also I feel ingrown hairs may be a worry when shaving the face, true?

And does shaving the face or any other part of the body for that matter will it stimulate hair growth as well? And what is the best way to shave down or up when it comes to a womens face or does this matter or have an impact on the way the hair will grow back? And is waxing your legs better to do then shaving if you don't do the electrolysis that is? I know I won't wax, but would just like to know.

And when shaving your sensitive areas like bikini line or gential area, my friend saids it's better to shave down first then up is there a proper way to shave this area? Actually I think she may shave it all down, but for me I'm not able to get all the hairs this ways.

And as far as the nipple area is plucking okay? Because it seems like shaving would not make for a good look. And again are we making more work for ourselves. And what makes plucking so bad, what happens to us in the long run if we PLUCK verses shave?

It sounds like shaving is the best way to do it, all around that is for a temperary fix. And I never liked waxing, I really feel it's a scam!! I had my legs done once and this was crazy!! But does it really make the hair on the legs less and does it really make the hair thinner as well? I mean there are people who started WAXING young and after five years of waxing they barely have any hair and they are not old.

But as far as shaving what do some of you recommend as far as shavers go. I use the Venus Divine and I use the Venus Breeze which is nice because of the extra moisture added to it. I think Gillete makes some good products and the others really out there don't compare. But I would really like to know what others recommend. And are electic shavers better? I never thought so myself but if someone could tell me otherwise this would be great!! It just seems like shaving dry is not the way to go and I know there are wet ones out there so my question is what really works best!?! And how about shaving creams or gels which ones do some of you swear by that really make a difference in the shave.

Also I would like to know if it's a good idea to use alchol to rinse your shaver or clean your shaver. I feel I may have picked up an infection once due to the shaver not being disinfected. Is this a must when shaving?

I mean, I usually just rinse it off really good with hot water and hang it up to dry on its own little hook, but I wonder if you can catch stuff if not disinfected a certain way. Especially for those that carry them to the gym as well. Any advice or info?

Thank you so much for your time and listening!!

Cinnamon (:


Edited by Cinnamon68 (12/12/07 05:53 AM)

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#48018 - 12/12/07 07:06 AM Re: OKAY, whats the deal with Plucking and Shaving!?! [Re: Cinnamon68]
James W. Walker VII, CPE Moderator Offline

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please go to http://www.HairFacts.com and read up on plucking, shaving and so on.
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#50106 - 03/11/08 08:16 AM Re: OKAY, whats the deal with Plucking and Shaving!?! [Re: James W. Walker VII, CPE]
eurasianhelp Offline
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Registered: 03/09/08
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Loc: Chapel Hill, North Carolina
I'm confused about this, too. It seems my facial hair DID NOT start top grow back darker until I plucked...

But now it is so dark (prolonged shaving/occasional plucking) that I feel I can do nothing but pluck!

I read the article on Hairfacts, but it says nothing about "Disadvantages" that plucking can make hair grow back much darker...and hence, prolong the electrolysis process if you are aiming for that eventually--which I am!

Any advice?

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#50108 - 03/11/08 08:39 AM Re: OKAY, whats the deal with Plucking and Shaving!?! [Re: eurasianhelp]
dfahey Offline
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Hormones and good blood supply make hair grow depending on your genetics and vulnerbilities. On the face, which is a high hormonal target, repeated tweezing and waxing can be factors in causing hair to grow hardy, sturdy and strong. Tweezing the lower legs is something different altogether. Tweezing your eyebrows is something different altoghether.

If you can, go for electrolysis for your face. Hopefully, you have a skilled, modern electrologist with a hygenic office in your locale. You have to stop tweezing immediately when you start electrolysis and resort to shaving or clipping in between treatments until your practitioner can catch up with the returning tweezed hair.

Dee

Dee
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#50566 - 04/01/08 02:14 AM Re: OKAY, whats the deal with Plucking and Shaving!?! [Re: dfahey]
Cinnamon68 Offline
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Registered: 12/04/07
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Loc: IL.
Listen, I really don't like it when you go to a website that has area's to place your questions and you get someone who works on the site who seems to not have the time or wants to make you feel like your wasting their time by asking many questions.

This is a advice/help you out area, so I would really like it if Mr. James Walker not answer any of my questions or requests for advice anymore please. The others have been very helpful, but I'm not a site reader I come here to ask and go. I'm also not into reading on the computer it bothers my eyes after a while. I have health issues that don't allow me to sit in front of a computer for long do to PAIN, I'm stricken with RA and haven't any more cartilage in my hips this is why I can't read and sit in front of a computer for long. I'm much more into books or magazines and I am a true believer it is much easier and faster to pick up a BOOK and read it then trying to find it on silly COMPUTER!! So if someone would recommnend a good book on the subjects, maybe one I could find at my local library that would be really nice.

You know the old saying if it ain't broken don't fix it!!! That's the problem with this country, so many people just don't really want to help, they just want to brush it off on something else or someone else, it's really truely a sad world at times!! Thanks all for listening and taking the time to respond.

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#50567 - 04/01/08 06:12 AM Re: OKAY, whats the deal with Plucking and Shaving!?! [Re: Cinnamon68]
James W. Walker VII, CPE Moderator Offline

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Loc: Buffalo NY, & Traveling the US...
Mike Bono's - The Blend Method
Meharg & Richard's - Cosmetic and Medical Electrolysis
Shelby Owens - About That Hair <=== This is the one I think you are best to read)
Linda C. Edsell - Female Hirsutism: An Enigma

There you have some books to find.

Funny thing is, if it were not for people like that Evil James Walker, many questions on here would go UNANSWERED like yours almost did.
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Setting a goal is not the main thing. It is deciding how you will go about achieving it and staying with that plan. --- Tom Landry

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#50593 - 04/01/08 08:42 PM Re: OKAY, whats the deal with Plucking and Shaving!?! [Re: James W. Walker VII, CPE]
dfahey Offline
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Posts: 3298
Loc: Columbus, Ohio
Cinnamon:

No one who answers questions here "works" for this site. It is voluntary behavior that takes time out of our very busy, long days to help posters like you. I think we have discussed this with you before on another thread. Try to find another website that is more patient and detailed as this one in regard to hair removal. Personally, I become calloused toward posters that offer no appreciation and I'm surprised that evil James even offered to take his precious time to guide you with reading material.
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Dee Fahey, R.N., C.T.
Licensed by the State Medical Board of Ohio for Nursing license and Cosmetic Therapy/Electrolysis license

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#50663 - 04/03/08 08:53 PM Re: OKAY, whats the deal with Plucking and Shaving!?! [Re: dfahey]
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Registered: 02/26/07
Posts: 94
Mmmm Cinnamon. You were definitely out of line here. Nobody owes you anything here, and James kindly gave you a link to read. Whether you read it there or you read it on this thread, you still have to read it. Print it out if you don't like the computer, but don't expect any more answers until you apologize.

Why James responded to your rant, I don't know. I would give you the name of a great book that explains the connection between hormones and hair follicles, but... nah.

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