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#47462 - 11/21/07 02:59 PM Re: A kick in the teeth [Re: Benji_boy]
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Hiya again, Iv'e just had a my first treatment with Laser-active and all seems to have gone well. I ended up having full legs, chest and some other areas.

Gail was great, really friendly and chatty, but professional at the same time and just made the treatment so much easier and more comfortable. I found all of the treatment manageable even my ankles, and other areas I thought would be more sensitive. (Oh apart from one part, OMG THAT HURT LIKE HELL! I'll save you the intricate details, but I got through it.)

The hair seemed to react well, especially my chest and bikini line as that's where the hair is thickest. She also gave me some aloe vera to take home because I will most likely finish off the small bottle that I bought from Sk:n. The price was reasonable as mentioned above and the session took just over 2 hours, so nothing to strenuous.

To sum everything up, I'm very satisfied with how everything is going right now and the service given, so all to do now is wait and see how the shedding goes.

Kind regards,
Benji


Edited by James W. Walker VII, CPE (12/08/07 02:43 PM)
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#47470 - 11/21/07 10:18 PM Re: A kick in the teeth [Re: Benji_boy]
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Wow, thats like reading my own story Benji..

I can also vouch for Laser active. They are the most pricey, but its a good setup and Gail has no probs with touch ups. Although when i went back, the missed patches of hair had grown to about 7-8mm and i thought they should be shaved. Gail just said to leave it that long and she zapped it anyway. :-/ Either way, its a pretty good service.

Benji - did you try Laser Clear in Liverpool street? They use a Gentlelase and are about half the price of Laser active.
However, they dont do touch ups and they dont do butts..
(Bit like a girl i know lol)




Edited by Morrissey (11/21/07 10:29 PM)

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#47481 - 11/22/07 03:06 PM Re: A kick in the teeth [Re: Morrissey]
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Haven't heard of them to tell the truth, it sounds rather odd that they don't do buttocks (and nah it don't sound like a girl, loads of my mates hate the hair on their buttocks, just don't have the nads to go through with laser lol) and it's strange they don't do touch up's, as the whole idea of hair removal is that it's meant to be on the entire area not just the bits they managed to get first time. I'll stick with Gail and see how it works out for the moment as she seems to be the best around.
Theres a couple of missed patches which have come through, I'm gonna trim them with electric trimmers and draw around them in white eyeliner for when I go back to have them touched up.

I think with Laser theres always going to be missed patches as it's very difficult to get every patch, because it's not like electrolysis where you take each hair at a time.
I'm gonna have another treatment on my chest, and legs. After that I'll just clear up my few other areas.

Has the hair regrown at the same thickness as the rest of the hair that you had lasered since the touch up?

Kind regards,
Ben


Edited by James W. Walker VII, CPE (12/08/07 02:41 PM)
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#47711 - 12/03/07 09:03 PM Re: A kick in the teeth [Re: Benji_boy]
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Thanks for the ongoing updates!
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#47851 - 12/08/07 12:46 PM Update [Re: Andrea]
Benji_boy Offline
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Well I went back to Sk:n for my next treatment on my back and shoulders. My last nurse had already quit (2nd one to date) so I had a new girl doing it who only appeared a couple of years older than me, but very nice and seemed to know what she was doing.

She let me know that they had changed machines to the Cynosure Elite, with a maximum spot size of 15mm. This kind of annoyed me, but I can understand them wanting to target a larger section of the market as it has a dual wave length of 755nm or 1064nm, so it can treat darker skin types than the GentleLASE can.
The spot size of 15mm is not as large as the GentleLASE and I find 15mm's much more painful, as it feels more like a pin prick and takes a little longer. They do have a new cooling system which shoots a continuous jet of cold air rather than blasts. It feels kind of wierd with the 15mm spotsize but at least I know when the nurse is about to fire the laser.

I will admit I am very bias when comparing different lasers to the GentleLASE. I made sure that the pulse was the same at 3ms, and I increased the joules to 20J, (maximum is 22J on the Cynosure) with a wavelength of 755nm and spot size of 15mm.

She drew lines on my back with white pencil as well which was good so I felt more confident than I did with other nurses about her getting the majority of the area and she seemed quite thorough with the treatment. Although she still tried to get me to come back in 6 weeks, but I booked the appointment for 8 weeks later and may extend it.

I also went back to laser-active to have the touch up's which went well, there were a couple of little bits which were missed but Gail cleared tham all up and they seem to appear the same as the rest of the lasered hair which is great.

I'll leave a brief update on how the shedding went in a couple of weeks in regards to my back.

Kind regards,
Benji


Edited by Benji_boy (12/08/07 12:52 PM)
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#47883 - 12/09/07 05:01 PM Re: Update [Re: Benji_boy]
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 Originally Posted By: Benji_boy
I will admit I am very bias when comparing different lasers to the GentleLASE. I made sure that the pulse was the same at 3ms, and I increased the joules to 20J, (maximum is 22J on the Cynosure) with a wavelength of 755nm and spot size of 15mm.


My memory is that the Cynosure elite, like all the Cynosure machines has a variable pulse width and will only go down to 5 ms.

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#47885 - 12/09/07 05:14 PM Re: Update [Re: sslhr]
Benji_boy Offline
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Then I'm gonna go mental at the nurse when I'm in for my next treatment. I specifically asked if the pulse was the same and she replied yes. I'm fed up of the "shut the client up and get them out the door attitude".

Arrrrgggghhh! I hate this company.

Eughh! 3 more treatments to go before I can get out of this contract.

Thanks for mentioning that sslhr.

Kind regards,
Benji


Edited by Andrea (12/13/07 09:39 PM)
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#47930 - 12/11/07 01:05 AM Re: Update [Re: Benji_boy]
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I was wrong with the Cynosure Elite. I looked the laser up on Cynosure's website and the specs are significantly different from what they use to be. It seems that that Elite, at least at some spot sizes, can go down to 0.5 milliseconds. So it is possible that the Elite can treat at 3 ms into a 15 mm spot size.

I was basing my response on my memory but that memory is several years out. Sorry. You may want to check with the center. Ask them to show you the settings when they get ready to treat you to satisfy your curiosity. You can tell them that some idiot on a web site told you that it can't go down to 3 ms and you want to prove him wrong.

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#47933 - 12/11/07 02:39 AM Re: Update [Re: sslhr]
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This is a great thread for everyone in London. Thanks Benji for updating this so consistently.

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#48486 - 01/03/08 01:13 PM Re: Update [Re: LAgirl]
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Well I'm back with the New Year update!

I'll start with Sk:n, theyv'e missed a large chunk on my upper left shoulder, as in the nurse hasn't treated that area not just missed it and I also have a smaller line over my right. Iv'e got several lines on my right upper arm (this isn't stimulated hair growth as Iv'e had 4 treatments on my upper arms and theyr'e reacting well with full shedding) and I have other short lines all over my upper back where again, she's missed.

I'm getting kind of fed up with this, but the problem is there isn't many other nurses in the Harley Street Clinic that haven't treated me. The first nurse, Sarah, left after my first treatment (who was great, although she was what they termed a Laser Hair Specialist, not just a nurse), the second one Lucy I refuse to have treatments with anymore, Aedelade quit and now I'm being treated by the new girl.
But anyway, I'm going to take photos of all the missed areas and keep myself to myself until I have finished the contract as it is pointless switching from nurse to nurse because they all appear to be the same. [I'll post some photo's in a day or two]

Now onto a more positive subject, Laser-active. I went back for another touch up just to make sure that everything comes out fine, we upped the Joules to 18 this time and if I can manage that setting for the next treatment I'm going to ask if we can bring it to 20 Joules. It all seems to be coming through uniformly although I can't be sure because where the touch up's are little bits are coming back at different rates, so I'm going to wait until it all comes through to make a decision, but I'm very happy so far.
The treatments itself wasn't much more painful with the increased Joules and Gail was friendly and professional. I think once I finish my treatments with Sk:n I'm going to have Gail treat my full back, shoulders and upper arms once or twice, just to clear up what's left behind by Sk:n.

So all in all its the usual really, I just have to wait and see how the areas I wanted reduced turn out.

Kind regards and a Happy New Year,
Benji
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