You said this laser cant eliminate hair, i thought all lasers never permanently remove hair just reduce it?? On a tanned/brown skin patient what would the settings be at if they were to go to a laser clinic? would it not be around 24-30 joules?

And also what difference does the spot size make? is it that the bigger it is the more faster larger areas can be treated?

Lasers can permanently remove hair if the circumstances are right.

- your assumption is wrong. i don't know where you go that. lasers CAN permanenly destroy hair. professional powerful machines that is, not this device. and on the right skin and hair type and at correct settings.

- how fast an area can be treated is only a side benefit. larger spot size puts out more energy and reaches deeper into the follicle.

- if you're asking about joules on this little machine, it's a useless question. if you read sslhr's post carefully, he outlines how you would need at least 10 times as many joules on this machine to produce the effect that a professional diode like LightSheer would produce (so 25 joules on LightSheer which is needed at minimum for effectiveness would mean 250 on this thing), and that's not taking into account the pulse and spot size issues. if you're asking about joules on a professional machine, it's more complicated than that especially for brown skin. You would need a Yag laser and settings are not equivalent among machines. It would depend on the machine used.

Guys.... Why donīt you just shut up and let someone who has tried it give their opinion... If you donīt want to buy it... donīt! Anywayz... why are you so interested in talking terribly about a device you havenīt even tried ?!? Hmm... Geeee I wonder why...
And by the way Miss lagirl... a razor makes your hair come back "thicker" and in less than 2 days you gotta shave again...thereīs a BIG difference...Have you ever shaved your legs?
Maybe its not permanent, but even if itīs long lasting and it put hair ( as sslhr says ) in a dormant state...it works for me!

Miss lagirl let me ask you something... why do they call it permanent hair removal? Why donīt they just call it...definitive? and also...why is it called now permanent hair REDUCTION?...As you are so instructed on lasers...maybe you can explain this to me and the guys!

considering the rudeness in your posts, i won't repeat what has been stated on this forum for more than 5 years now in various threads AND in detail right above in this very thread (did you ignore everything stated above with the REASONS explained as to why it doesn't work?). use the search feature at the top right and you'll find the answers to your questions in other threads too.

while you're at it, also search "shaving" (and do this elsewhere if you'd like as well) so you can learn why shaving DOESN'T make the hair any different. It's an old wive's tale.

I just thought I'd bump this thread back up to the top to see if anyone has gotten this yet. It's my understanding that it's been available in Japan since 2005, so hopefully by now it's known whether or not it actually does anything. If anyone here can read Japanese, it'd be cool if you could summarize what's being said.

Darker skin types need YAG lasers, as mentioned above. However, the skin must not be tanned, when I say tanned I don't mean natural colouring, I'm talking about sun tan. When the skin is exposed to UV light, the melanin particles become "excited", thus making even light skin more prone to burning.

Hence why for the past year I haven't ventured out into the sun. Even when I went to Lanserote I just stayed in the shade and crammed for my exams because my skin tans way to easily if I was out having fun in the sun, even with SPF30 or 40.

Regards,
Benji

I've decided to take the plunge and try Tria when it comes out. I'll let y'all know what happens. I gather from reading reviews of it that it does something(feels like a rubber band snapping and causes shedding). It'll be interesting to see if the results are long term.

I was discussing this with my husband the other night and he made an interesting point when I said "how could something that costs $1000 work as well as something that normally costs $50,000." He pointed out that professional equipment is always much more than the home version. Professional equipment has to withstand several hours a day, everyday usage. Granted, that doesn't mean the Tria will actually work, though. We'll see.

I wonder what kind of chrystal they are planning on using in this machine.