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#51091 - 04/17/08 10:39 AM Sephoras No! No!
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Seen the Sephora No!-No! being touted as a good hair removal product that will reduce hair growth permanently. I've read many testimonials attesting to its effectiveness on internet product reviews.
Is this product good to go or what? And by what technique does this thing remove hair by? Ive already searched for the No!No! on this site and all I get is three different forums saying its no good, backed by ZERO qualification.

Only answer if you have somthing more to say than, "its no good, we already talked about it".
And if you did already talk about it show me a link.

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#51147 - 04/18/08 04:05 AM Re: Sephoras No! No! [Re: Form]
James W. Walker VII, CPE Moderator Offline

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here is what the company says about this particular version of their product:

http://www.my-no-no.com/html/technology.htm
compare that with this page on our sister site
http://www.hairfacts.com/methods/etweezer.html

Hair is not a conductor of electricity, nor a very good conduit of heat energy. the growth cells that need to be targeted for permanent hair removal are located in the LOWER portion of the follicle, so blasting the upper portion of the hair, and or hair follicle may cut the hair off at, or just below the skin's surface, but won't provide permanent hair removal, as it will not disturb the germative growth cells in the lower reaches of the hair structure. This is why Probe/Needle Electrolysis inserts a fine wire probe into the follicle so that it is placing the treatment energy directly at the place that needs to be treated in order to effect permanent change in the body tissues.

But I am sure you find even this explanation to be lacking.

Just buy it and tell us how you feel about the results 3 to 6 months after using the product as directed. Then make sure to follow up with the before, during and one year after shots of the treated area.
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#51160 - 04/18/08 08:31 AM Re: Sephoras No! No! [Re: James W. Walker VII, CPE]
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Well thanks for your reply. Yes, the whole transference of heat through the follicle thing seems a little dubious, yet if hair was total nonconductor of heat, laser hair removal wouldn't work.
People are reporting that the regrowth phase is lessened after use, as compared to shaving.

Why would that be, if all it did was burn the hair off superficially wouldn't the hair grow back at the same rate as shaving?

This site isn't an advocacy site for electrolysis is it?

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#51163 - 04/18/08 09:33 AM Re: Sephoras No! No! [Re: Form]
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Heat can travel down the hair - but not very well, hence why there is so much debate on which lasers are best . Comparing a no no! pad to something like the GentleLASE Alexanderlite laser or really any other Grade IV medical laser, is like comparing the pulling power of a old Cortina with a cruise liner. When laser fires light into at the skin it attracts to the melanin partcicles in the hair and travels down the hair follicle at an incredibly fast rate, which is where the pulse factor of lasers come in. If the energy can travel down fast enough before its conductor (the hair) is burnt away it can reach the bottom of the follicle and if in the right hair cycle, can cause thermal damage to germ cells. Where as something as slow as a transdermal patch would simply burn the hair before it reached anywhere close to the lower regions of the follicle.

In regards to the hair growing back slower, the hair may have somewhat of a tappered effect when burnt meaning the hair may be less noticable when growing back. There is also the placebo effect, as well as human error when concerning memory, henec why it is important to have before and after photos, even when doing LHR or electrolysis. People ignore me on this, but there has been extensive research into the way our memories and how our perception of things can differ.

Another interesting point is this type of product has been around for a number of years, if it is permanent why haven't they consulted the FDA or any others similar bodies to back up their claim? Yes, these regulators aren't the be all and end all, but they do give a lot of weight to an arguement.

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Benji
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#51167 - 04/18/08 12:42 PM Re: Sephoras No! No! [Re: Benji_boy]
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Very nice. Indeed people are apt to see and hear what they want, including myself. So I want to hear a reasoned explanation of why this device can't work to counter my hope.

My childish hopes have been decreased a bit more by your piercing logic and knowledge my friend.

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