#51613 - 05/03/08 04:08 AM
First DIY Machine
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Hi there. i was reading through some posts and heard people talking about the One-Touch or the Clean & Easy. I was wondering if these were the two most recommended? I want to buy a DIY machine so i can do a bit myself at home, i am willing to spend hours a day with it i do not mind, i just want something effective, easy, not dangerous! I will solely use it for the body (not face), and i have never bought a machine before so just would like to hear your thoughts regarding it. What would you recommend for my first buy? Be good to hear anything in your opinion, but keep it simple for me to understand i get a bit confused with the technical talk and what it all means :P many thanks 
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#51618 - 05/03/08 11:31 AM
Re: First DIY Machine
[Re: PaleBoy]
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Not a One Touch or Clean and Easy. They may be okay for a few hairs if you have any talent for insertions, but not an hour daily of body work. They will fall apart before you get to hair #10.
Get an older epilator that an electrologist is willing to sell. DO galvanic first and then graduate to thermolysis as you gain more confidence.
Is Sterex the big brand name epilator in the UK?? Clareblend would be a nice used machine and there are others, I'm sure. I would think you would have to buy something used that is not as powerful as some of the computerized stuff that are available for professional use now. You need to read about galvanic electrolysis first and learn all you can about making good insertions. It's not all that easy to get this together, but if you are dedicated enough, I suppose you can make it happen for you on body areas you can reach.
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#51624 - 05/03/08 05:42 PM
Re: First DIY Machine
[Re: love2besmooth]
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Registered: 03/29/08
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Wow, an Apilus Senior, I am so jealous!  I just bought an Instantron Elite myself.  PaleBoy, in addition to an epilator, be sure to pick up some of the recommended reading, especially The Blend Method book. You might even want to do your reading up first before you decide to try this yourself and buy an epilator. I was wondering if any other DIYer here had thought of turning electrolysis into a career. I told a friend that I was going to learn to do my own electro, she said I was crazy, and asked why I didn't at least go to school to learn to do it properly. I thought about it and did some research, and found there are not many schools of electrolysis left, none within hundreds of miles from me that I know of. It is an interesting idea though, I was thinking of a career change too. There are a few listed on the AEA web site but I think they are the only ones left sadly. (I'd love to know if any are still left in upstate NY if anyone reading knows of any.)
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#51625 - 05/03/08 06:15 PM
Re: First DIY Machine
[Re: VickieCNY]
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I have been thinking a lot about a career in electrology too, Vickie. There is one school in NY called Berkowitz I believe? I am not sure where it is exactly or if it is good. Maybe someone else knows.
It seems like the general consensus I have read is that the more expensive machines are the easiest to use. It does seem like quite an investment for strictly DIY though.
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#51627 - 05/03/08 07:14 PM
Re: First DIY Machine
[Re: DLY303]
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Registered: 03/29/08
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There is, unfortunately for me it is in Queens, many hours away from my small town. The AEA has it listed, and it is an AEA accredited school it says. http://www.berkowitsschool.com/I was holding out for an Apilus for a while but couldn't find one for less than $1000 used (an Apilus Jr. like my pro uses and raves about.) Interestingly, the Bono book says it is better to learn on an older machine with analog dials and analog DC meter as opposed to a newer one with all digital controls (mine has analog dials and a digital meter, in fact there is a picture of someone in there using the same machine as mine.) All the schools I have read about train people on all digital machines now (the Apilus line predominately.) Go figure!
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#51696 - 05/05/08 10:46 PM
Re: First DIY Machine
[Re: love2besmooth]
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Registered: 03/29/08
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Wow, that is one heck of a machine! Maybe equal to an Apilus Platinum? Very cool  I almost landed a like-new Silouet-tone VMC for $500 which I was told is roughly the equivalent of an Apilus Jr., but the seller disappeared before I could buy it I might keep looking around for a school, my pro electro mentioned that laser is probably driving many of them out of business, I just noticed many electro schools left now offer laser as well. Maybe in the fall when my regular job slows down I will bite the bullet and apply at Berkowitz or one of the out-of-state schools that offer the 320 hour program (would then be too late to take the CPE test until the fall of next year though.)
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#51701 - 05/06/08 04:29 AM
Re: First DIY Machine
[Re: VickieCNY]
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If someone was selling a Silhouet-Tone VMC for $500 it would not last the length of the auction. As these had a MSRP of $5,000 when they debuted, and still go for $3,500 brand new, and used ones are rarely sold for less than $2,000 ($2,500 is the norm) someone would have arranged to buy it early and have the auction stopped.
Of course, the other alternative is that it was a fraudulent ad and the person never had one in the first place. I would like to think that it just got snapped up by someone who lived driving distance away who said "$500! I'll be right over!"
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