#31248 - 03/09/06 01:57 AM
Epilar System
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Hi!!! I realy love this site it's been very useful to me. I have been always very stressed about body hair since i was about 15 years,which btw i have a lot and which i hate, mainly the hair on my back and on the upper arms.It was realy bad when my girlfriend found out...but that's a another story. But enough of me, i was searching throug the internet and i have found something new, that appears to me similar to the Sirna Gene therapy it's call Epilar, i have researched litle more and found only a litle info in english, since i can't read stuf that it's written in Denmark and that's a shame. Epilar InfoEpilar official What do you guys think? Maybe it's a scam, but i doubt that because if that was the case it wouldn't only be available to physicians... I personaly think that maybe the Sirna therapy will be something like this but more efective or maybe has efective as this. I honestly think that 10 years from now something new will rise and it will be quick,efective, safe and available worldwide(I hope so!) Cheers to everybody!! Ps:Sorry about the english i don't write very well 
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#31249 - 08/07/06 12:52 PM
Re: Epilar System
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This appears to be a chemical depilatory and a topical "hair inhibitor." I'd ask for published studies before believing their claims about hair inhibition.
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#46526 - 10/15/07 10:14 PM
Re: Epilar System
[Re: Nids]
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Epilar USA is a joint venture between Cosmeceuticals (UK) Ltd being the international division of CosMedical Copenhagen ApS, the Danish parent company responsible for research, development and clinical testing of the product and Trademark Cosmetics of Riverside, California. The EpilarŪ System is manufactured, packaged and distributed by Epilar USA in association with Trademark Cosmetics.
Hair inhibitors like this usually do not have published clinical data to back up their claims. I will make an inquiry, but this looks like a product to avoid.
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#46593 - 10/18/07 08:47 AM
Re: Epilar System
[Re: Andrea]
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Those interested in Epilar can go to www. epilar. net or call 877-888-2211 to find a spa or salon near them. Epilar is available in 43 countries and over 800 spas and salons across the US including the Murad Spa in Los Angeles.
The product is a two-step gel system available in professional spas and salons and is applied immediately after waxing. Each application reduces hair growth approximately 20% and after 8-12 treatments, depending on the area of the body treated hair growth is completely inhibited.
The active ingredient is Trypsin and those wanting to find studies on Trypsin and hair growth inhibition can Google "Trypsin" AND "Hair Growth" to find clinical studies and published papers.
For transparency, I work with Epilar and can answer questions anyone might have or direct them to someone who can.
Edited by James W. Walker VII, CPE (10/18/07 04:04 PM) Edit Reason: took out link
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#46601 - 10/18/07 03:54 PM
Re: Epilar System
[Re: MichaelR]
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Hey Michael...nice advertisement.
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#46602 - 10/18/07 04:02 PM
Re: Epilar System
[Re: jme1]
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Funny thing that the site calls this product a "Novelty"
In the United States the term "Novelty" legally denotes something that is just a joke, or doesn't really do what it says, as in a parody.
Erection pills are often sold as Novelties.
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#46608 - 10/18/07 05:27 PM
Re: Epilar System
[Re: MichaelR]
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Michael, you are welcome to post here, but this is skating a spam line.
Hair inhibitors like Epilar have a long history of making unsubstantiated sales claims based on testimonials, anecdotal evidence, etc.
I am going to check in with FDA about this status of their claims about "permanent hair reduction."
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#50022 - 03/09/08 06:17 AM
Re: Epilar System
[Re: Andrea]
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At least, Epilar provides scientific research ( here) to back up its claims. And transparency about how it works. Secondly, it's used by professionals beauticians, for example here in France, and in many other countries. Beauticians are constantly subject to feedback from their customers, and can get sued, so if they choose to use Epilar, this is an indication of its efficiency. I don't think many Hair inhibitors can make the previous claims. So, I'm not saying that these are definitive proofs of pseudo-permanent efficiency, but at least it indicates that Epilar is worth some attention.
Edited by november (03/09/08 06:20 AM)
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#50024 - 03/09/08 06:33 AM
Re: Epilar System
[Re: november]
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I don't know if I'm just having a dense moment, but i can't find anywhere on that link that shows scientific studies concluding this. All I can see is an outline of a process that says it slows down hair growth.
Secondly, just because a professional uses something doesn't mean that it is effective or as effective as expected. If someone is told that the hair will grow back slower, the large majority of people will think that it is growing back slower, even if it is not. There are numerous studies that show how the midn can have a placebo effect, one that I found quite funny was when the researcher gave participants a supposed alcohol tablet (of course, it was nothing of the sort). Yet they all thought they were completley bladdered, until they were told otherwise and suddenly they miracuously "sobred up".
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#50025 - 03/09/08 06:55 AM
Re: Epilar System
[Re: Benji_boy]
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Here is what we can read on this study : "We show that topical trypsin treatment following depilation induces cell death at the follicular papilla."
As far as I know, damaging the follicular papilla is precisely what the optical permanent depilation solutions are supposed to induce.
Secondly, I'm not talking of "a professional", but of "a LOT of professionals". One professional can use an inneficient product and hope he will not get annoyed by its customers. But if a lot of professionals use a product through many countries, this is undoubtedly a proof of efficiency. A company could never reach such a wide market by selling useless inneficient junk.
Also note that epilar revendicate similar results as laser and flashlamp, and that prices are just a little lower than those of flashlamp. That means awaited results are more than just "Oh, I feel my hair are a little softer around here". Awaited results are more like going from "This area is very hairy" to "I see no noticeable hair in this area". And that's precisely why inefficiency would be way more obvious, and way more scandalous considering the price.
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