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#52958 - 06/12/08 09:54 AM Re: A quick hair related question. [Re: bunnychan]
Aliciadarling Offline
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Hi Bunny:

If you give the make and model number of your machine
someone here can tell you if it is for real or
might just make a good door-stop.

Alicia

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#52959 - 06/12/08 10:17 AM Re: A quick hair related question. [Re: Aliciadarling]
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If you are not inserting a fine wire probe, or filament, or needle like device into the follicle, you are NOT performing permanent hair removal. Hair doesn't conduct heat or radio waves, or electricity well enough to cause permanent damage to the follicle.
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#52981 - 06/13/08 01:06 PM Re: A quick hair related question. [Re: James W. Walker VII, CPE]
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There is no make or model number since I built it myself. I understand that hair is an insulator which is why I am trying to depend on the frequency(not RF) more than the charge. I understand that success with this is a long shot, but if anyone could send me a link to a clear picture of a successfully plucked hair I would be very grateful.

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#52983 - 06/13/08 02:01 PM Re: A quick hair related question. [Re: bunnychan]
lagirl Offline
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Since you built it yourself, we would need to know specific details of the machine. It's impossible to say for sure what a successfully treated hair looks like. Even if the hair comes out well, it's impossible to guarantee that it was treated properly to kill it permanently.

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#52984 - 06/13/08 02:14 PM Re: A quick hair related question. [Re: bunnychan]
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Such devices have been on the market for a long time. Just search "Vector" or "igia" on this site and you will find lengthly discussions about them. If it doesn't use a needle, it can't perform galvanic electrolysis or thermolysis.

However, you can build a machine yourself that does work. Just visit http://www.geocities.com/hairfreethere/ for the details. (I found treatment times and intensities recommended for different hairs to be spot-on as well, I used them with my pro machine (in galvanic mode) and they worked great! Thanks to whoever compiled those.)
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#53035 - 06/16/08 10:18 AM Re: A quick hair related question. [Re: VickieCNY]
bunnychan Offline
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Thanks for the link. How common is permanent skin pigmentation with a home electrolysis system like the one in the link?

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#53055 - 06/16/08 06:27 PM Re: A quick hair related question. [Re: bunnychan]
James W. Walker VII, CPE Moderator Offline

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Permanent pigmentation would require really bad treatment coupled with really bad post treatment care. Very Long Term Pigmentation, on the other hand would be much more likely.
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