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#53131 - 06/18/08 08:41 AM Re: Upper lip shadow? [Re: dfahey]
clparker Offline
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After a year and a half of electrolysis and never plucking, my hair had pretty much zero pigment. Then when i was recovering from surgery this winter and had nothing better to do I plucked my whole face. About a month later it all came back in black. It was a nightmare. Now i have shadow on my upper lip that i didn't have before. I used to be able to let my hair grow out a little. Now I have to shave pretty much every day which is going to make it a lot harder to work and get electrolysis treatments.


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#53140 - 06/18/08 09:33 AM Re: Upper lip shadow? [Re: clparker]
James W. Walker VII, CPE Moderator Offline

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This is why we tell you not to pluck. Plucking can make hairs both thicker and darker, as you can now attest.

Be of good cheer. If you let the hairs grow out for one to three days, a good fast electrologist could clear it all out in one visit. Then you could keep it maintaned without anyone else knowing your secret, if your treatment schedule is kept just right, and you get full clearances each time.
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#53168 - 06/19/08 03:03 AM Re: Upper lip shadow? [Re: James W. Walker VII, CPE]
Aliciadarling Offline
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Hi clparker:

Back in Black. That sounds like the name of an AC/DC album.

Seriously though that is a good lesson to be learned about
facial plucking. I have been seeing an electrologist for years
now and the upper lip is amazingly hair free. It did take a while
and dedication to continuing a regular schedule until I was really happy with the resuts.

If you are not stealth then growing the hairs out for a few days prior to treatment shouldn't be a problem. If you are stealth then maybe you can make an appointment during a vacation week, grow the hair out a few days and make sure to get a full
clearance. Then if you maintain a regular schedule you should be able to keep everything under control until the hairs are
totally anihilated, exterminated or whatever they do with nasty vermin.

Alicia

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#53170 - 06/19/08 05:19 AM Re: Upper lip shadow? [Re: Aliciadarling]
angel_85 Offline
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Registered: 05/28/08
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Hmm.. I didn't think it would take that long to get a small area like that cleared in years (maybe a year?). Did you have dense dark hair above your lip? How long were your oppointments?

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#53173 - 06/19/08 06:32 AM Re: Upper lip shadow? [Re: angel_85]
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Hi Angel:

Actually I had a pretty good moustache that many
guys were jealous of. Yes, dense and brown and may I add
very yucky.

Actually the upper lip did not take that long,
but considering I could only do 2 hours at a time
we started out clearing the upper lip and whatever
else we could get done in the 2 hour session.
Eventually the upper lip had less and less regrowth
and required less and less time.

Eventually I got the entire face and neck cleared within 2 hours, then 1-1/2 etc..

The story goes that I would take however long it took
until I was happy, even till my dying day. If we go in there expecting we are going to be completely done with electrolysis within a year we could end up being disappointed. You might still need cleanup sessions every couple of months
for a while after that.

I am getting another area of my body done now and I have her
remove the occasional stubborn hair from my face while I am there. But I don't have to shave and any hairs that do come back
are usually fine and few.

Alicia

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#53184 - 06/19/08 09:47 AM Re: Upper lip shadow? [Re: Aliciadarling]
James W. Walker VII, CPE Moderator Offline

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To get to first clearance on an upper lip would only require one to, say, shave Thursdaynight, go to work Fridaymorning, and then get to the appointment Fridayevening, or Saturday sometime. Then the electrologist has enough hair to work so that it doesn't take twice to three times as long to get the hairs removed.

I have Stealth girls who refuse to take a little time to let some hair grow for me, and they just have to pay for that in longer sessions to remove the same amount of hair that I could have removed in an hour if they just took some time out of the social calendar so we could strip it bare at a fast pace.

Rare is the upper lip that would take me more than 2 hours to clear out on the first day. After that, one would just have to get on schedule and stay in that zone.

Once a person gets to first clearance, one can keep it clear with electrolysis alone if one is on that most aggressive schedule, and the skin looks finished, even as one continues the treatments. For everyone else, they are shaving once or twice a week in between appointments.
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#53186 - 06/19/08 10:29 AM Re: Upper lip shadow? [Re: James W. Walker VII, CPE]
Aliciadarling Offline
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Hi James:

I always had at least 3 days growth before friday afternoon appointments.

As far as first clearance on the upper lip, it probably
took close to 2 hours for the first clearance. We continued to clear that first each time and then worked our way to the chin with any remaining time.

Eventually we got down to 2 hours and less for the whole
face, neck, etc..

I started treatments before going full time and was in reasonable considerably thinned out condition by the time I went full time. If anyone is considering going full time tryto get as much done ahead of doing that.

Alicia

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#53196 - 06/19/08 01:45 PM Re: Upper lip shadow? [Re: Aliciadarling]
James W. Walker VII, CPE Moderator Offline

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I would agree with AliciaDarling on this one.

That is why it is such a great thing if one can find someone who can do, and is willing to do enough work to get full first clearance in a short time, so the work gets done faster, and the person can go full time sooner.
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#53208 - 06/20/08 02:47 AM Re: Upper lip shadow? [Re: James W. Walker VII, CPE]
Aliciadarling Offline
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Hi James:

Two hours at a time was about all I could handle.
You can call me a wussy if you'd like.
Maybe if my electrologist had a more up to date machine
than the Sequentium 328 too it would probably have been
less painful.All things considered however I am happy to have
her as my electrologist and she is local.

I think some of us tend to rush into going full time
when some forethought and preparation might make for
a smoother transition. Just as a for instance how many
have come on here and said they need electrolysis but
are full time and don't want to go a few days without shaving
prior to treatment?

A little research goes a long way.
Maybe some people should consider reading TS Roadmap or
other helpful sites before taking the leap.

Alicia

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#53265 - 06/22/08 01:16 PM Re: Upper lip shadow? [Re: Aliciadarling]
James W. Walker VII, CPE Moderator Offline

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I would agree.

You don't know how many people come to me looking for magic, but refuse to do simple things like, let the hair grow long enough to allow me to work as fast as possible, and/or give me enough time to get them a full clearance, and/or get work done on schedule so we can get it finished as quickly as possible.

Then they want to complain that things are not going as well as they thought it would, or as fast as someone else they know got it done.

Well, if I have to scrape and pick for each hair because you shaved with a Mach IV THIS MORNING then you can't get fast hair removal!
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