Subscribe & Support This Site!
consumer hair removal forum
Page 12 of 13 < 1 2 ... 10 11 12 13 >
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
Hop to:
#55844 - 09/14/08 07:29 PM Re: New Home Laser Device - TRIA [Re: James W. Walker VII, CPE]
mvrx Offline
Member

Registered: 09/13/08
Posts: 3
I wasn't planning on making my own. I was asking what specs you might think a home unit would need to reach for it to actually work. smile It seems if they can come close to working @ $1000, they should be able to make a viable product at $2000-$2500. Which is certainly what I would pay.


Edited by mvrx (09/14/08 07:30 PM)

Top
Sponsored Links
#55845 - 09/14/08 07:49 PM Re: New Home Laser Device - TRIA [Re: mvrx]
coolness11 Offline
Contributor

Registered: 01/03/08
Posts: 23
Remember the TRIA's actual manufacturing price can't be more than $200. This jacked up price of $1000 is middleman and retail price jackups similar to the old example of how nike shoes cost $5 to make but they sell them for $120 at Finishline. Absolutely they can make a real machine that can effectively kill hairs just as good as the salon machines for around $1k-2k but they are impeded by the FDA and possible frivolous lawsuits by idiots who don't know how to wave a light over hair. What really makes me mad is how these damn salons and big salon laser companies have a grapplehold of the laser hair removal market and will price gouge us until someone intelligent realizes there's a huge market in making an at home effective real laser machine. The laser hair removal companies are comparable to the damn oil companies!

Top
#55847 - 09/14/08 09:10 PM Re: New Home Laser Device - TRIA [Re: coolness11]
mvrx Offline
Member

Registered: 09/13/08
Posts: 3
You are correct, the home market is huge. Even people who couldn't afford a $2000 device, would likely get a few friends or family members together and buy one. I believe they could profit far more with mass produced consumer devices than the low quantity sales to salons/dermatologist.

Maybe if something more powerful gets released over seas I can have a friend ship me one. I had a friend send me (from overseas) a HDMI device that fakes the HDCP security into thinking my HDMI capture card is a valid TV, I'm sure I could get a laser hair removal device sent over.

Too bad the parts can't be purchased and one rigged together, but I doubt anything like a kit will exist for 10 years. frown


Edited by mvrx (09/14/08 09:15 PM)

Top
#55867 - 09/15/08 03:47 PM Re: New Home Laser Device - TRIA [Re: mvrx]
lagirl Offline
Top 10 Contributor

Registered: 12/22/04
Posts: 5409
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
For it to actually work, it needs to have the specs of the professional machines, i.e. in this case a professional diode like LightSheer. Btw, you need a low pulse, not a higher one, for it to work well. The best machines out there go down to 3ms compared to this 600ms. Unfortunately, I don't think a machine like this will ever be available for home use due to safety issues.

Top
#58210 - 12/11/08 11:22 AM Re: New Home Laser Device - TRIA [Re: lagirl]
TommyW Offline
Member

Registered: 07/28/08
Posts: 6
I just found out something about the Tria that I think everyone here should know. I purchased it online and have been using it for the past couple of months. And I am generally happy with the results.
HOWEVER, I have been annoyed by the amount of time it takes to charge the battery, and more so the amount of time it actually stays charged. For me to do my chest and stomach it takes about 4 full battery cycles. And with three hours in between each cycle to recharge….well, I’m sure you can understand how annoying that can be.
Now, I have found out that the battery will only last 300 charges! SO, considering how many times I have to charge it, that means in less than a few years it’s not going to work. I think this is unacceptable considering I paid $1000 for this thing. And I will be returning it just before my 90 days is up.

Top
#58238 - 12/12/08 07:21 AM Re: New Home Laser Device - TRIA [Re: TommyW]
marklycett Offline
Member

Registered: 12/12/08
Posts: 2
Hi, thats a lot of treatments for a grand,by the way would you scrap your car just because the battrey needs replacing? I have spent well over £1000.00 on laser treatment and it i'm not there yet, if it works it,s a bargain.

Top
#58239 - 12/12/08 07:51 AM Re: New Home Laser Device - TRIA [Re: marklycett]
James W. Walker VII, CPE Moderator Online

Top 10 Contributor

Registered: 06/03/02
Posts: 4878
Loc: Buffalo NY, & Traveling the US...
The point is, they don't let you replace the battery. You are expected to buy a new one when the battery dies.

Reminds me of the original Bauch & Lomb version of the Sonicare Toothbrushes. They had the recharging stand, but inside the handle was soldered in a rechargable battery, and when it died, one was supposed to throw away the toothbrush you had paid $200 for, and buy a new one.

True Mavericks like me, opened the thing up, and found a way to liberate the dead battery, and insert a new one, and keep using the one that they had.

I guess this has gone on enough that the current owners of the product, (Conair, if they have not sold it this week) are now in the silly situation of selling a $30 version that allows you built in access to the battery chamber, so you can drop in your own (rechargable) batteries, but this version won't charge rechargables by use of their charging stand. On the other hand, they are still selling the ones with the sealed battery for +/-$100 and expect you to throw it away when it stops taking a charge.

I bet an electrically knowledgeable person could design a battery pack system for this that would allow you to use one of those 15 minute chargers with the special batteries that work with them, and you could cycle them out back and forth. Of course, doing this would void the warranty (so don't do it until the warranty has expired)
_________________________
Setting a goal is not the main thing. It is deciding how you will go about achieving it and staying with that plan. --- Tom Landry

Top
#58240 - 12/12/08 07:54 AM Re: New Home Laser Device - TRIA [Re: marklycett]
dfahey Offline
Top 10 Contributor

Registered: 10/27/03
Posts: 3694
Loc: Columbus, Ohio
A car battery does not cost $1,000.00, (though I hear that in the future it may cost $8,000 - $10,000 to replace a green car battery after 10 years of use).

Reporting about the Tria from consumers on these boards is still a work in progress. If this turns out to be about the same as long-term waxing, with the inconvenience of limited useage time, mixed with long battery recharging times, then one will just have to weigh these inconveniences along with the amount hair reduction they receive.
_________________________
Dee Fahey, R.N., C.T.
Licensed by the State Medical Board of Ohio for Nursing license and Cosmetic Therapy/Electrolysis license

Top
#58285 - 12/13/08 09:57 AM Re: New Home Laser Device - TRIA [Re: dfahey]
marklycett Offline
Member

Registered: 12/12/08
Posts: 2
Hi guy’s .The point I was making is that for a grand you get 75 full treatments on your chest that would cost £15000.00 English at my laser therapist. And after five years of treatments I can tell you that you only get reduction, but it lasts much longer than waxing. I go twice a year now for my face, chin and neck.
You have all the inconvenience, cost and wasted time of traveling to and from the clinic and having time off work to boot. I would give my left nut to be able to do it my self at home. Now I have experienced the professional game I am more than confident that this is no more a danger to the individual than changing a flat tyre.
Even if you cannot get anyone to change you the battery, if this thing works it is well worth a $1000.00 or £600.00 to us limeys. I do concede that at home you don’t get a sexy therapist tending to your every need but hey that’s your wife’s job!! LOL
laugh

Top
#58290 - 12/13/08 11:08 PM Re: New Home Laser Device - TRIA [Re: marklycett]
TommyW Offline
Member

Registered: 07/28/08
Posts: 6
I don't think there is any question that the Tria will not give you permanent hair removal. The laser is just not strong enough. And when I purchased it I knew that. However, it does give you the same effects. It's just that you never reach the "end of the road" like some do with professional treatments.

But the reasons that made me choose it over having professinal was the fact I didn't have to travel an hour to the closest clinic, and that I could do it when ever I wanted and as long as I needed. But now I have found out that isn't going to be the case.

I am considering buying the Silk'n. Although it is not a laser it basically will give you the same results. And you can plug it in, so there is no worry about the battery ever going bad. You have to buy replacable cartridges, but that seems to be much more economical than dishing out another $1K everytime the Tria's battery dies on you.


Edited by TommyW (12/13/08 11:11 PM)

Top
Page 12 of 13 < 1 2 ... 10 11 12 13 >


Recent Posts
Laser on genitals
by stormy
4 seconds ago
Guy new to WAXING got a few questions
by 666
Today at 02:13 PM
Spiro problems - advice please
by inuk
Today at 01:04 PM
Free Electrolysis Treatments in VA!
by Padrica
Today at 12:11 PM
A question for the experts - Surgical Loupes
by dfahey
Today at 06:08 AM
Top Posters
lagirl 5409
James W. Walker VII, CPE 4875
Andrea 3926
dfahey 3691
RJC2001 1513
Who's Online
2 Registered (helpingothers1, TXAstro), 12 Guests and 1 Spider online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod