Melissa and Bugs,

Your reports will be most appreciated. I would ask you you to stay with us for at least a year or two with those observations. You can't really draw conclusions after a month. Reporting patterns are much better over a period of at least a year. Thanks for adding a real dimension to the Tria device.

Dee

Keep in mind a few things:

- 1-3 weeks is not indicative of anything just yet. If you just plucked the hair, it would also be gone for that long.

- 1 week after laser is too early to tell anything too. It takes 3 weeks for the hair to fall out.

I really hope it works even for a month or so.
But I've heard that the tria is too weak and
http://www.easy-hair-removal.com/LD2K.html

Would actually be better since it's stronger. Can anyone confirm that?

Tria is the strongest home laser product on the market. The product in your link is a useless gimmick.

lagirl, don't take this the wrong way, some of us are desperate (but I won't purchase unless I am 100% sure) but how can you be so sure of that.

Sure I am not saying that the product will or will not work.
I am just stating the fact that it _SAYS_ it got 1-100 pulse on a 54jcm2.
Now wether that is true or not, I don't know.
But lets assume it is true, wouldn't that be more efficient then Tria?
And if so, that would be awesome
Anyway I just need confirmation from someone who has actually bought the product.
I couldn't find it under the "scam" site here on hairtell.

The problem is that you're just starting this search and we've been here for years. You need to read more posts here to understand what a device needs to have in order to produce permanent damage to the follicle. You're trying to find things out of desperation. Think of it this way - if there was something that was great for such a low cost and for at home use, we all wouldn't be spending thousands on professional treatments. There is no magic device that has been hidden from everyone because it's so great. If it existed, it'd be the most popular thing on this planet.

Nothing with a 1mm spot size would do that. As SSLHR pointed out to you in the other thread, GentleLASE is 120 times more powerful than this gimmick. The power of the device lies not just with the joules, but with the spot size and pulse COMBINED with the joules. That's because lowering the spot size in turn makes the other two variables so low, they're ineffective.

Alright, but isn't this machine (gimmick) stronger then the Tria?
just a theory, of course..

And you are saying it's not enough, how come Tria seems to be more endorsed?

I keep wondering what P&G/Palomar are doing. They had the first FDA approval, have been working on their home laser product for over 5 years, and have huge corporate backing (Gillette).. yet Tria beat them to market?

Anyway it will be really interesting to see how Melissa's experience with the Tria fairs. $1200 was about the same cost as getting a large area (e.g. full legs) permanently professionally treated for me.

Have you thought about taking some pictures showing the difference? Please keep us posted!

(P.S. Even if that LD2K wasn't a gimmick, look at its spot size of 2 mm. That's 1/5th the size of the Tria and LightSheer.)

I feel like you're not really reading the answers. Once again, this gimmick machine is 120 times less powerful than GentleLASE AND dozens times less powerful than the Tria. The reason Tria is even being talked about is because it's the first home laser machine that even somewhat resembles the types of settings that professional machines do. However, even Tria's setings are still too low due to the high pulse. And this gimmick is much worse than the Tria due to the useless 1mm spot size.

The LD2K is the latest name given to a scam product that we have covered every month for 5 years here!

These scum prey on desperate people like you who send their money and pray they have found the thing that will "save them from paying professionals" only to find the thing doesn't work. Some people blame themselves, and go quietly into the night. Others complain to the company and either get silence, or an offer to exchange the faulty machine for one that works better. They tell the person that they are a newer company, and that this version of the machine is faulty for some R&D reason, and they have fixed the flaw, and are willing to trade you the useless machine for a new and improved machine for just $X dollars more, to help them out with the extra parts, and the shipping and handling. It is a deal they swear, as the new price for the new item will be thousands of dollars more, and they just want, maybe a few hundred dollars more out of you.

The new machine comes in the mail AFTER YOU HAVE RETURNED THE ONE YOU FIRST GOT FROM THEM and when you open it up, you find THE SAME MACHINE WITH A DIFFERENT MODEL NUMBER, but the same old parts, and the same non results.

One HairTell member played this game with them for months and even proved that they were sending him back the same machine, as he snuck and marked the one he returned in such a way that a.) they would not notice, but b.) if they added new parts to the thing, the marking would go away, or at least be disturbed.

When he got tired of playing the game, he got his money back via American Express. After that, the company stopped accepting American Express for payments.

As the Governator would say, "Hear us now and believe us later."