This makes sense, I also want to know if there is any way to tell whether the follicle is destroyed or damaged.



sslhr mentions about synchronization, but doesn't explain it thoroughly. Based on your discussion, synchronization is a parameter having direct effect on number of treatments (f.e. if you catch all the hair synchronized in anagen phase then you have a good success rate), and if synchronization is somehow gotten out of way, it leads to patchiness. And two things, that can cause dissynchronization, from the top of my mind are, either the practitioner performs a patchy job, or you pluck hairs randomly during course of time (weeks, months, years). And the best way to synchronize hair seems to be waxing the area as you told so. This is bad news for me, as I waxed my arms 9 months ago, the hair came back extremely patchy; I haven't gone to LHR since then and my arms are still patchy if not as patchy as the first day.

Either get more laser treatments for the patchiness or get electrolysis to even it out. Laser is possible if your hair structure is thick and dark enough. Electrolysis allows individual hair follicles to be selected no matter what the color and structure. You have some choices here.

I had some time lately and I am posting some photos as I promised. What do you think I should do? All I want is to have a natural look.


I may reduce the hair on abs, but I wish little more hair on chest.


It is somewhat messed up.


There are bald spots.


Left arm. Want to reduce hair seen especially on 2nd and 3rd.

There is no real way to tell whether the hair was killed and not just damaged. That's why we recommend to treat at highest settings your skin can handle safely.

If you waxed and saw patchy growth afterwards, it means your previous treatments killed various spots of hair. What I would do in your situation is wax and get laser treatments on the areas that show hair (within 3-5 weeks after the hair comes out). Electrolysis is also an option, especially if these patches don't have coarse hair.

Judging from your photos:

- Your chest and stomach and lower arms definitely have coarse dark hair that can be treated with laser. You seem very light, so I would advise to look for GentleLASE clinic and test spot for highest settings you can handle. Try to use 18mm spot size and see how close you can get to 20J max without burning your skin. Anything 16J and above on 18mm should be very effective.

- Your face actually looks pretty normal to me. I can see what you're talking about in terms of a couple patches, but I don't think I would have noticed it at all if I wasn't looking for them. It looks pretty natural to me. The upper lip looks most dense, which is normal. That's usually the hardest part to treat, along with the chin on males. You may want to do a couple passes there with laser. Other than that I would leave the rest of the face along unless you're looking for more reduction. And if you are, I would only let someone with lots of experience on this specific area on males treat you because overlapping and settings are very important here.

Right arm. Same with left arm: want to reduce seen on 2nd and 3rd.


Left hand. Hair is not uniform. There are some bald spots. Wish to restore hair on those.

Right hand. Patchy. Wish to restore hair especially on inner wrist and right hand side top of the hand.

Honestly, I don't really notice the patchiness. Normal patterns of growth almost always have slight patchiness. It's not noticeable and is considered normal. You do have quite a bit of dark coarse hair on your lower arms still, so I think treating that area will help the rest feel more uniform (though I really don't see it).

I forgot to mention how long ago I got LHR for each area I posted the photos for. My treatment record is also in the first page of this thread. (Note: I've just now noticed that I made mistake on that record. I omitted my first Full Arms treatment. It is not on the list, and it should be in November 2005. On this first arms treatment, I had excellent satisfaction: All the hair completely shed and I had very uniform regrowth.) Anyway, back to the photos:


Chest and Abs - 3rd (last) treatment 2.5 years ago

Mustache and Chin - 6th (last) (including touch ups) treatment 1 month ago. But in the 5th and 6th treatments, I only covered half of the mustache and chin.

Neck - 4th (last) 14 months ago.

Arms and Hands - 5th (last) 14 months ago. I also waxed my arms 9 months ago.

I went up to 25J Apogee9300 (Alex laser) with 15 mm2 spot. I don't how many joules "25J on 15mm2" corresponds to on 18mm2. But, I think it should be over 16J. I am happy with the results though I wish to switch the hair amounts of chest and abs.



I agree, in close up it looks natural. But, if I don't shave for 1 day, in a meters distance it really looks weird. Now, I am afraid of using laser on my face, because you really can't guess what the outcome will be. I will not risk it.

I tried to make it noticeable in the photos. However, my hair is long, and longer hairs cover up the bald patches to some extent. Also, some degree of detail is lost in the photos. Furthermore my hair is wavy in the photos, this is another reason why it is hard to see patchiness. If I comb my hair, it will be easier to notice.

Apart from patchiness, my main complaint is that my hair is sparsely placed and it is coarse, and this contributes to unnatural look. Now, if I continue LHR and as a result if some coarse hair is eliminated and some other coarse hair stays, then the hairs will be placed more sparsely, and it will look more unnatural; bald patches will be easier to notice.