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#55177 - 08/20/08 09:35 PM forehead fiasco
Ladycontesa Offline
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OK, so here's the deal. I am an indian girl who has a small forehead. I have hated my forehead for quite a few years and had decided to have it enlarged with electrolysis. I started thermolysis treatments (3-4 to be exact), but had to stop because there was too much of a skin reaction and it was REALLY noticable. I was really depressed! Then six months later when some of the hairs grew back I went to another lady who did the blend method. There isn't as much of a skin reaction but it still doesn't look natural. I have only had a couple of treatments with her and she does do really great work, but I still feel self concious about how it looks. I am going to talk to her about blending the hairs a little more and making it more symmetrical but I am afraid that my hairline will never look natural again. I kinda regret starting to do this, but I have to fix it as much as I can. If anyone with experience on this subject matter can offer me some advice as to how best to go about this that would be great!
thanx


Edited by Ladycontesa (08/20/08 09:37 PM)

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#55184 - 08/20/08 11:45 PM Re: forehead fiasco [Re: Ladycontesa]
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Can you submit a picture of just your eyebrows on up. The hair line needs to be feathered in to give a natural look instead of doll look.

Plan "A":

Why don't you go to a professional esthetician that can tweeze your hairline and get the look you want, symmetrically correct. That way, if it doesn't please you, then the hair will grow back and you can try again. If it does please you, then have your electrologist follow the template created and treat the new growth and regrowth that will return in the next 3-16 weeks. Then keep maintaining this area until you are finished in about a year.


If you don't do plan "A" then you will have to help her out.

Plan "B" :

You have to guide her. Hold a mirror in your hand and have her do a couple hairs at a time. You will be directing this, so hopefully she is okay with that. If you are not totally confident in determining the shaping process, then go back to plan "A". Many electrologists are not makeup artists and shouldn't be expected to re-shape your hairline. Get some help from someone who can get this right and then have the electrologist stay within the lines. Use a mirror and observe her doing a few hairs at a time. Take a look and analyze.

If you get a few red dots, don't freak out. They will heal and hopefully, they will heal within a week or so. Don't get crazy over temporary skin reaction. We are damaging tissue below the skin so the hair cannot grow ever again!

Dee

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#55187 - 08/21/08 12:07 AM Re: forehead fiasco [Re: dfahey]
LAgirl Offline

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I agree with Dee. Go to someone who waxes foreheads etc for a living and is experienced in creating the right look. They can wax or thread the area to your liking. Once you get a look you want to keep, restart electrolysis and only have them treat the new hairs as they come in after one waxing or threading.

I would also recommend for you to try out a few other electrologists. Thermolysis shouldn't cause any more of a skin reaction than blend in the right hands. So it was likely the electrologist, not the method, that was the problem.

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#55190 - 08/21/08 12:23 AM Re: forehead fiasco [Re: LAgirl]
Ladycontesa Offline
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Maybe your right, but the lady I'm going to is very good. My only problem with having someone thread/ wax the hairline is that it will look too straight/ unnatural which is the problem I am having now. It looks too rounded.

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#55191 - 08/21/08 12:30 AM Re: forehead fiasco [Re: Ladycontesa]
Ladycontesa Offline
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How do you post pictures?

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#55243 - 08/22/08 01:55 AM Re: forehead fiasco [Re: Ladycontesa]
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You can go to a picture hosting site like Photobucket and upload the pictures and post a link to them on here, or you can go to our gallery and upload them. It would be easier to put the picture in this post string so that it is visible if you put it on a photobucket style site and then linked, or imbedded it here.
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#55248 - 08/22/08 02:19 AM Re: forehead fiasco [Re: LAgirl]
dfahey Offline

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I was actually in favor of selective tweezing of the hairline by a makeup artist or an aesthetician that has a good sense of balance and feathering to make the hairline look natural. I think waxing or threading would yield that "doll hairline" look.

Dee
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#55249 - 08/22/08 05:07 AM Re: forehead fiasco [Re: dfahey]
127 Offline
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I have the same ethnicity and same problem. Two years ago when I was living in my country, it was very hard to find any electrologist, let alone experienced electrologist. On the other hand, laser treatment was offered by many dermatologists. Although , lagirl and others advised me against using laser on face but I was so desperate that I still took a chance. I naturally have small forehead, above that I had relatively long black hair all over my forehead. These long hair on my forehead gave the impression of my head hair touching the eyebrows. on both sides of the forehead there were patches with 3/4 inches long hair, some of them seemed to blend with head hair and some of them just stand out.

So, I went ahead with laser, which worsened my cheeks and neck hair problem. I grew a lot of hair on my neck and cheeks which didn't stop growing in two years. They just grew longer and longer until I started trimming+bleaching them. On the other hand, if I compare the condition of my forehead, it is much better than before. I have light brown fuzz on my forehead but those 3/4 inches long hair on both side of the forehead are gone. My eyebrows dont seem to touch my head hair anymore. I am not sure what is the exact reason for my forehead responding differently to laser. Maybe, this is because of the coarser hair. Other reason might be that forehead hair are not hormone trigger hair.

It is very hard to comment on your forehead problem without looking at the pictures. but I would still suggest you to try removing hair on your forehead, without tampering with natural hairline. This may make your forehead look broader as it did to me. Also, hair grew back to be lighter and didn't give me an artificial look.


Edited by 127 (08/22/08 05:55 AM)
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#55252 - 08/22/08 05:31 AM Re: forehead fiasco [Re: 127]
127 Offline
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I quickly found some before and after pictures of my forehead. After picture doesn't show any hair, it was really hard to find a picture which shows the forehead hair, they normally don't appear in camera.

I don't know why picture doesnt appear after uploading through file manager.


Attachments
before_2006.JPG (1688 downloads)
after_2008.JPG (1010 downloads)



Edited by 127 (08/22/08 05:33 AM)

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#55286 - 08/23/08 04:38 AM Re: forehead fiasco [Re: 127]
Ladycontesa Offline
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Yes, so I went to my electrologist and she worked on my hairline while I was holding a mirror. It looks much better now, but still not as natural as it once was. Typically how long does it take to grow back hair that has been treated with blend electrolysis? Also if it hasn't grown back in a years time can I assume that it's gone for good?

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