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#55390 - 08/25/08 07:09 PM Re: My electrolysis [Re: dfahey]
VickieCNY Offline
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Would this apply even in areas where this is a large amount of space (relative to the face) between follicles, such as the legs?
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#55392 - 08/25/08 08:37 PM Re: My electrolysis [Re: VickieCNY]
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Legs can be worked on everyday as you would be going from new section to new section, being that it is a large area.
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#55451 - 08/27/08 07:12 PM Re: My electrolytzizzz [Re: dfahey]
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8th treatment. I had a one-hour treatment on the body. Nipples, chestbone, abdomen. Treatment was performed by a new electrologist. When she saw the areas to be treated she said to me, that she can't understand what's the problem, my hair is fine blah, blah, blah. I hate when they do that! Ok! I know that I don't have many hair, but what's their problem if I don't want any at all?

Anyway, I was pretty happy with the results for such a large area. Hopefully, I won't need too many treatments on the body.

This electrologist performed the treatment differently than the rest. She would treat several hair and then tweeze them. The rest treat a hair, then tweeze it and so on. Also, she sent current for longer time. This was the most painful treatment I had so far. I hope it was effective.

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#55453 - 08/27/08 08:34 PM Re: My electrolytzizzz [Re: rinava]
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We electrologists are all different. I personally believe that if someone wants hair removed and I can see it, then I will remove it as they desire.

You will need as many treatments on body areas as the hair growth cycles dictate. I don't think abdominal hair or breast hair are particularly high hurdles. The hairs give up pretty easy, if enough energy is used.

Treating several hairs and then lifting them out with the tweezers is perfectly okay. Treating one hair and then lifting is perfectly okay. If her insertions are accurate, the treatment will be effective if the hairs are growing hairs.

Dee
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#55502 - 08/29/08 07:22 PM Re: My electrolytzizzz [Re: dfahey]
rinava Offline
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9th treatment. 1-hr treatment on the face. She missed out a few important ones on the upper lip, which I find annoying. Apart from that, all good.

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#55504 - 08/29/08 09:20 PM Re: My electrolytzizzz [Re: rinava]
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rinava,

May I suggest that you ask for a mirror after your session, before you get off the table, so you can inspect the area? I need my clients to help me in any way they can as sometimes lighting and positioning do not always highlight certain bothersome hairs.

A client usually knows every problem hair on their face, so help her out. Take your own mirror if you like, but don't leave there feeling annoyed.

There may be another reason she did not take those hairs??? I can think of a few, but ask her about this next time.

Dee
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#55508 - 08/30/08 07:07 AM Re: My electrolytzizzz [Re: dfahey]
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She always gives me a mirror, but I didn't notice them. I find it impossible that she didn't notice them though. I don't have many coarse hair, so they stand out. I will be more careful from now on and I will let her know.

I thought of a few reasons too Dee! Hopefully they know what they are doing, otherwise they will loose a good client.

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#55568 - 09/03/08 06:48 AM Re: My electrolytzizzz [Re: rinava]
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10th treatment. I had a 30min treatment, because I couldn't stand the 5 coarse hair on the upper lip. Thank God my electrologist works only on Saturdays, otherwise she wouldn't treat them, as she refuses to treat the same area more than once a week.

I had this lady today, who said to me once again that my hair is very fine, it's hard to see them, and it's a really difficult job. I don't get it! Isn't this her job? Aren't electrologists trained to treat fine hair? If I can see a hair and I can tweeze it, shouldn't she be able to treat it without mentioning how hard it is?

I asked her to do the upper lip. Ok! She took the very annoying ones, but she didn't clear it. I don't understand why! Then, she moved to the lower lip. She didn't clear it either and moved to the sides, just to tell me that my her is fine blah, blah...Should I feel sorry that my hair is not coarse enough?

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#55571 - 09/03/08 07:07 AM Re: My electrolytzizzz [Re: rinava]
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Any electrolologist that has surgical magnification and a good light source can see the hairs you desire to be removed. Proper positioning of the client and shadowing techiniques will highlight it ALL.

This is my pet peeve with colleagues in my my profession. They don't realize what they can't see because they refuse to spend the money on a better vision tools. They are missing opportunities to help clients who are distraught by this fine blond hair, which can be just as debilitating as coarse, dark hair. To me, this is a poor business decision because you can't serve ALL your customers well and it decreases the bottom line for potential income. If they purchased customized surgical loupes and an excellent light source for a couple thousand of dollars, they would get that money back and more in a short period of time. This is called the cost of doing bisiness and it benefits both sides.

I feel your frustration and the only thing you can do is try other electrologists of nudge your practitioner in the direction of using better vision tools and techniques. If I can see these fine blond hairs (I'm middle-aged), then I'm assuming others can to if they would just set themselves up for success.

If your electrologist already has surgical loupes and good lighting, then this may be a skill issue????

Dee
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#55572 - 09/03/08 07:36 AM Re: My electrolytzizzz [Re: dfahey]
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I think it's the equipment Dee. I said previously it is quite old. I can't complain about their skills. All the electrologists I had so far are pretty good, but they all mention how fine my hair is. I sometimes feel like they are complaining. I am wondering what will happen after a few sessions when my hair will be fewer and finer...

I contacted a few other clinics but they are more expensive and they do up to 45min. I assume that if they don't do longer appointments, they are not skilled enough? However, they use the blend method, whereas my clinic uses thermolysis. Is the blend method quicker than thermolysis? From other posts that I read it seems that thermolysis is the best for the face. Should I give a go to blend?

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