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#56571 - 10/09/08 05:48 PM Re: Bishop's Electrolysis in Richmond Hill, Ontario [Re: lagirl]
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Registered: 12/14/06
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Loc: Ontario, Canada
Both my electrologists remove about 10-15 hairs per minute on average. They have the Apilus Junior and Apilus Senior.

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#56579 - 10/09/08 08:08 PM Re: Bishop's Electrolysis in Richmond Hill, Ontario [Re: Squash]
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Registered: 11/15/03
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Loc: Toronto
The woman I go to also removes at least 10 hairs per minute . . . normally more. My hair is very blonde and fine so perhaps removing fine hair is a faster process?

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#56589 - 10/10/08 10:44 AM Re: Bishop's Electrolysis in Richmond Hill, Ontario [Re: ht2003]
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Registered: 09/28/08
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Well I had my consultation yesterday and since I have very curly course hair, she said that it would take a 45min-60min session each week in the beginning since the needle may not be hitting the hair follicle. What length of time can be estimated as the "beginning"? She said over time the hairs would straighten and the follicle will be reached by the needle. The method she used on me was thermolysis. She said over all, it would take about 1.5 years for complete removal of the hair. Cost is $52 for 45 min and $68 for 1 hr. Is this a good price?

When I asked about the total hair removed from the session, she said that it was against the electrologist's oath or honour to say how much hair had been removed because it is the accuracy that counts in removing the hair.

The sensation of electrolysis felt like miniature burns/shocks. And the hair felt like it was sliding/being picked out very easily but definitely not being plucked. It was bearable.

Do you end up getting scabs at all because right now the area where she treated (my jawline) is smooth.

She gave me the contact of another electrolysis that is closer to (and therefore cheaper travelling) where I live so that if I chose to I could go to her instead.

I generally liked her, she was knowledgeable about her profession and was very easy to talk to.

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#56591 - 10/10/08 11:02 AM Re: Bishop's Electrolysis in Richmond Hill, Ontario [Re: Green_Goddess]
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Registered: 12/22/04
Posts: 5409
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
Everything sounds good here. Scabs do not always appear. It varies on area, your skin etc. But if they do, it will take a couple days for them to show up and another several days for them to fall off.

Do make sure to apply witch hazel to the area a few times a day until it heals. And don't use anything with chemicals that clogs pores like moisturizers, heavy makeup, facewash, etc.

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#56593 - 10/10/08 11:06 AM Re: Bishop's Electrolysis in Richmond Hill, Ontario [Re: lagirl]
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Registered: 09/28/08
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Hi lagirl, she said to keep out of the sun (i.e. no tanning etc) and I wear a light moisturizer with spf 15, is that ok?


Edited by Green_Goddess (10/10/08 11:06 AM)

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#56599 - 10/10/08 02:42 PM Re: Bishop's Electrolysis in Richmond Hill, Ontario [Re: Green_Goddess]
lagirl Offline
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Registered: 12/22/04
Posts: 5409
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
Don't use the moisturizer for a few days after the treatment until the skin heals. Staying out of the sun is not a bad idea, and especially necessary for people with darker skin to avoid pigmentation issues.

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#56604 - 10/10/08 06:23 PM Re: Bishop's Electrolysis in Richmond Hill, Ontario [Re: Green_Goddess]
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Registered: 10/27/03
Posts: 3518
Loc: Columbus, Ohio
I believe the FDA is about to or has come out with the recommendation that sunscreens of 30 SPF or higher should be used.

I usually don't promote products, but one product I really like is COTZ SPF 58. It's an acronym that stands for "Contains Only Titanium & Zinc".


The only ingredients in COTZ are Titanum Dioxcide 10% and Zinc Oxcide 3%

There is no PABA, Oil and it is fragrance free. It protects against UVA/UVB rays. It's great for sensitive skin. Good for kids, too. Oh, and it's water resistant.

Before anyone asks where to buy this, here is some contact information:

Fallene, Ltd.

www.totalblock.com

1-800-332-5536
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Licensed by the State Medical Board of Ohio for Nursing license and Cosmetic Therapy/Electrolysis license

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#56801 - 10/17/08 01:02 PM Re: Bishop's Electrolysis in Richmond Hill, Ontario [Re: dfahey]
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Registered: 09/28/08
Posts: 8
Hi everyone!

So I decided to do another consultation with a different electrologist just so I could weigh my options out and be sure about who to choose. The second one charges a higher rate of $74.50 CAD per hour due to her location, a very upscale area in Toronto.

The epilator, she says is from England, is called the Glamread. Has anyone heard of it? She also uses ballet needles (insulated) and an autoclave for sterilization of tweezers. The treatment I had with her was more painful than with Bishop's, a bit more uncomfortable. I also had more swelling of the area at this location than at Bishop's. How much does it matter the amount of current that each electrologist uses? At Bishop's, my skin was slightly raised but not nearly as red or swollen. The swelling subsided after 1.5 hours. Is swelling at all unusual?

As well her recommendation was 1 hour for the area, and a clearance time of 2 years, compared to Bishop's who said 45min-1hr per treatment and a clearance time of 1.5 years. Is this a big difference?

Also I wanted to ask you all, since my hair is curly, it's likely that the roots are curly. Is it possible to manoeuvre a needle into the follicle if it is curly? Or is it possible for the follicle to straighten over treatment?

She seemed to know her stuff though and was very surprised that I asked many questions. She said most people don't ask and that she was glad that I did. She seemed rather sincere about having the hair removed.

I hope to hear your replies soon, thanks!

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#56809 - 10/17/08 04:55 PM Re: Bishop's Electrolysis in Richmond Hill, Ontario [Re: Green_Goddess]
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Registered: 12/22/04
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What type of electrolysis does she use? Blend type can tackle curly hairs with no problems since the solution goes down to the root no matter what. That's why sometimes it's better than thermolysis on the very curly hair. But with good insertions, thermolysis will also work for most hair.

As long as signs went away within a few hours you're fine.

It's really impossible to predict how long it will take etc since it depends mostly on your committment to frequent treatments and getting your clearance fast etc and not her. So don't judge anyone based on their estimates.

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#56813 - 10/17/08 09:36 PM Re: Bishop's Electrolysis in Richmond Hill, Ontario [Re: lagirl]
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Registered: 03/29/08
Posts: 271
Bishop's uses a surgical scope (like James uses.) What kind of magnification does the other electrologist use? Never heard of a Glamread machine, so I can't compare it to Bishop's (is she still using an SM-500, or did she move up to an Apilus SX-500 or a Platinum?)

If you stick to the schedule your electrologist gives you, and your electrologist is highly skilled and using modern equipment you could be done in 18 months, it isn't unreasonable at all.

Swelling is not unusual. My treatments on my face are so intense (type III genetic male facial hair isn't easy) I am swollen for 12-24 hours after treatment sick But it goes down in time, and all is good.
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Laser: Cutera Coolglide 10 treatments/14 months full face 33J 10cm spot size
Pro Electro: 22.75 hours Apilus Jr + Platinum flash + picoflash thermo upper/lower lip + chin
DIY Electro: 155.00 hours Apilus SM-500 microflash arms/legs/hands

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