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#57036 - 10/25/08 01:27 PM Re: Full clearance and new hair growth [Re: Barbara_CPE]
caligirl Offline
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I was a habitual tweezer, waxer and bleacher for as long as I can remember. When I was a child my mom took me to see an electrologist. I have a very vague recollection of being in what I thought was a doctor's office and crying my eyes out because what the "doctor" was doing to me hurt so badly. The electrologist told my mom she couldn't treat me. When I was in grade school or middle school my mom started waxing my upper lip since I had so much hair there and she didn't want me to be teased. I don't recall when I began tweezing my lip and beginning to tweeze my chin but it has been at least 15 years. I didn't want to wait for my lip hair to get long (and visible) enough to wax so I began to tweeze.

I don't recall how often I would tweeze in the beginning but for the last several years I was tweezing my lip, chin and brows for at least one hour every morning. Ugh, now that I remember that I shudder to think what a slave I was to my facial hair. I would wax my entire face about every 3-4 weeks for the finer, dark hair that is all over my face. The waxing never made my facial hair (excluding my lip) any stronger. The hair on my cheeks, sideburns and forehead is still fine. Only the hair on my chin, lip and under my chin got strong. I also have some on my neck that got wirey.

Thanks Barbara!

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#57043 - 10/25/08 07:05 PM Re: Full clearance and new hair growth [Re: caligirl]
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Hair that has been tampered with for so long gets used to it and becomes a lot more resistant, so it is harder to kill the first time around and often needs a few passes. So keep that in mind.

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#57160 - 10/28/08 04:37 PM Re: Full clearance and new hair growth [Re: LAgirl]
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Okay - that answers part of my question....but please tell me this - when the new hair shows up two to four days after a treatment, is it coming in with a soft tapered end, or is it coming in like a stubble? Even accelerated vellus hair, when improperly treated, will come in as stubble.

If you started out with several treatments a week 3 months ago, and are now down to once a week for less time and getting clearance, then you can expect that in three more months, your treatment time will be cut in half again (you'll have a shorter appointment every week, or the same length every 2 weeks).

THAT is the way that treatments progress. Patience is a virtue that will get you to your goal.
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#57189 - 10/29/08 12:10 AM Re: Full clearance and new hair growth [Re: Barbara_CPE]
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Hmmm, the hair that is growing in is not that stubbly but it does feel somewhat thick and a little stubbly. That brings me to another question. My electrologist keeps saying they are baby hairs unlike the ones I started with. It is true, they don't look anything like the big gross ones I began with but shouldnt they all look the same? I thought the current regrowth is still all from the hairs I toughened with years and years of tweezing. Why does it seem these hairs are not as bad as the first ones?

I have to say that I really now think it is absolutely certain that I have less hair on my lip. I can finally see it starting to work!!!!! Even my chin is better. I still do have a lot of regrowth and very quickly but I have to say I am certain I now have less hair than I did a month ago and longer. YAY!!!!!

I am still fuming mad at the lady that scabbed my mouth last month. I now have hyperpigmentation all around my upper and lower lip. I had just worked so hard for so long (about 9 months) to get rid of it and it had substantially faded. Then with one crappy treatment it's all back. At least that will fade and the hair will be gone FOREVER!!!

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#57191 - 10/29/08 12:39 AM Re: Full clearance and new hair growth [Re: caligirl]
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Some of the hairs are not killed the first time around, but they get finer and finer with each treatment. That's what is meant by the statement that hairs that have been tampered with for a long time take longer to kill. Meaning what you may be seeing are old hairs becoming finer.

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#57197 - 10/29/08 02:59 AM Re: Full clearance and new hair growth [Re: LAgirl]
caligirl Offline
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But don't they take a long time to grow back? I'm thinking of James' grid example. If she treats a hair but it doesn't totally die the first time around, I still won't see that same hair grow back for a very long time right? Or does it grow back right away? Assuming you pluck a hair, how long before you see the same hair resurface? Is it any different if you zap it with electrolysis but it doesn't die? When would I see it again?

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#57202 - 10/29/08 03:56 AM Re: Full clearance and new hair growth [Re: caligirl]
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Face has fast growth cycles. You can see the same hair in a matter of a month or so, sometimes less.

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#57206 - 10/29/08 05:37 AM Re: Full clearance and new hair growth [Re: LAgirl]
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Oh, I see. I didn't know the facial hair cycle is so short. It makes sense now. These new hairs are absolutely finer than what I started with but thick compared to the smallest hairs on my face that I never tweezed. I have been able to tell that the hairs have gotten finer for quite some time and I have to say I was baffled as to why. Now I get it. The great part is that now not only can I tell they are finer but also less dense which means that many of them have been killed. That makes me SOOOOO happy!!!


Edited by caligirl (10/29/08 05:38 AM)

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#57211 - 10/29/08 01:15 PM Re: Full clearance and new hair growth [Re: caligirl]
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Electrolysis works. Stay with the plan to catch each new hair growth cycle and you will be even happier, soon.

Dee
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#57635 - 11/16/08 08:17 PM Yay! I can finally see electrolysis is working
caligirl Offline
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I started electrolysis in July 2008 on my upper lip, chin and under my chin. I added my lower lip later. I was going a LOT in the beginning. Probably too much. I was getting treated for at least 3-4 hours per week in those areas. My skin tolerated it very well at first. Then I started having some skin reactions so I cut back a little. I've been going for one 2 hour session per week for the last few months. I'm finally getting to the point that she is moving on to my cheeks. I still get scabs sometimes and that bothers me. I also wish I found someone that has a newer machine and works faster but I trust my lady with blend. I shudder to think about how much it has cost me. I have been hurting financially a little since I started this but I'm pressing on. I know I'm at least $2,500 in the hole since I started.

The bright side is that I CAN FINALLY SEE THAT IT WORKS!! I knew it would because of this forum. I always turned here when I was having doubts or feeling low about the process. You guys always made me feel encouraged again so I thank you for that. It is sometimes hard to believe that one day you will be hair free when every single day you look in the mirror and there are more new hairs. I have been able to see a reduction in my upper lip hairs for some time now. I was still uneasy about my chin area and under it. Now I can definitely, positively 100% confidently say that I can see a big change in those hairs. Not only are they finer but they are much more sparse. I don't have as many new ones popping in and they are not growing in as fast. I still have to go in once a week but there is a HUGE difference that I can see. I told my electrologist that if I had not been fully prepared to have to wait 4-6 months to see results I would have quit electrolysis a long time ago. I thank all of you on here that regularly take time out of your days to VOLUNTEER to help the rest of us. You have already made a big difference in my life and I'm just at the beginning. I know it will only get better from this point.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, thank you!!!


Edited by caligirl (11/16/08 09:03 PM)

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