We have heard of laser and electrolysis stimulating new hair growth. I read that the heat produced by laser is the factor, or one of the factors, that stimulates the new growth and so if you ice the treated area, it could diminish this side effect...although I couldnt find how long to ice or how quickly you need to ice to be effective....dont know if the above is right or wrong, but on to my question....does the same apply to electrolysis...and can you ice during treatment...and if icing does work, how much time do you have to apply the ice, how long should it stay on, and how wide from treated area...and do you only have to worry about certain areas, like upper arms and back, or could new growth happen anywhere?

Please leave electrolysis out of the "stimulating new hair growth" part of your statement! Where did you get that information?

ELECTROLYSIS DOES NOT STIMULATE NEW HAIR GROWTH.

LASER HAIR REDUCTION CERTAINLY CAN STIMULATE NEW HAIR ON CERTAIN AREAS OF MEN AND WOMEN.

Men: upper arms, shoulder and upper back
Women: facial hair, neck

So you will not need icing advice for electrolysis because you are not preventing new hair growth. It doesn't happen.

thanks for the reply, Dee
i went back on the areas i heard about electrolysis stimulating new growth and it was about new hair cycling...misread it

i am a big advocate of electrolysis...i dont see the net advantage of LHR at all, other than it reducing large areas of a real hairy area, if it works, that is.............there is not one example i came across that provided full permanent clearance with laser alone....all that wanted full clearance had adjunct electrolysis done and it took longer with LHR/electrolysis vs electrolysis alone..i just dont understand why people dont see that other than the need for simple instant gratification

Well, electrolysis is certainly full service hair removal and if more electrologist's had it in their hearts to get the best set up, technologically speaking, to compliment high skill, then there would be no need for websites like hairtell. Removing hair one at a time is really not that slow, if it is done a certain way.

I, as well as other electrologists, are in a unique position to see the laser success's as well as the mediocre outcome that happens to some? many? with laser hair reduction. Laser hair stimulation is the saddest thing to see, I must say, but happily so, I see more successes than those that present with more hair than when they started. ANd.... happily so, electrolysis can fix the dreaded beast called laser hair stimulation.

I like laser for certain areas especially and frequently put a business card in the hands of my clients so they can start another area with laser while I'm doing electrolysis on the face or whatever.

Laser hair reduction does not equal simple instant gratification as many think, true. Same with electrolysis. Permanent hair reduction/removal takes time because we are both up against hair growth cycles and it takes patience..... and it takes money. There is no easy way down in 2008 for removing unwanted hair, but maybe that day will come soon.

Dee

Point one: We frequently have a hard time making people aware of this situation. Explaining the hair growth cycle to the point where the customer understands it, or at least has a certain expectation is hard. This is why many just say, "Hairs are strong and need to be weakened by repeated treatments until they finally stop growing. It may be untrue, but it orientates the customer to a certain expectation.

Point two: In most cases where some one can get to full clearance as soon as possible, and then keeps on top of the situation, reclearing everything at least every 3 to 6 weeks, permanent hair removal seems to happen quicker, and definitely more reliably than with LASER

Point three: Since Electrolysis concerns don't spend millions of dollars slandering LASER in every media outlet available, most people are left with the one sided media message that Electrolysis is outdated, impractical, and something only the foolish would even try.

According to Hinkel's book I will take it straight from the book.


"Nothing of such minor intensity or of so short duration as the electrical action of the electrologist's needle could alter the permanent cutaneous blood supply sufficiently to cause a marked increase in hair growth. There is no expermental evidence that implies that it could be such a cause."

That's the icing to the cake! Thanks Love2be for adding those words verbatim from the electrolysis "bible" by Hinkel and Lind.

Dee