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#6147 - 06/16/02 11:15 PM Epil Stop cucumber melon
mcease Offline
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Registered: 06/16/02
Posts: 5
Loc: Toronto
Hi, There is a new epil stop called cucumber melon or something like that. I heard that the old one does not work, but do you think that they changed the ingredents and this one may work better. I do not expect it to permenently remove the hair, but i want something to use daily to get rid of stubble every day for the summer. After the summer i am going to seek laser hair removal, but I want a temporary daily method that is easy to do. I tried waxing befor also but I got a ton of zits from it and my skin broke out like crazy so I am not up for waxing again.
Thanks for any replies

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#6148 - 06/17/02 11:22 AM Re: Epil Stop cucumber melon
Andrea Administrator Offline
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Registered: 03/22/02
Posts: 3926
Loc: Los Angeles
A lot of people report that the Epil-Stop products don't dissolve coarse hairs. Plus, I like to encourage people to buy from reputable companies, rather than the scum who run IGIA/Tactica.

I suggest trying Nair or Neet if you want to try a depilatory. They have been around for a long time and have good manufacturing standards. The scum who run Epil-Stop have had to pull their products in the past for making batches too strong and badly burning consumers.

Epil-Stop no longer makes false claims of permanent hair removal in their ads, but they are still a company to avoid.

[ June 17, 2002, 11:23 AM: Message edited by: Andrea ]

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#6149 - 06/17/02 11:55 AM Re: Epil Stop cucumber melon
quaterman Offline

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Registered: 04/30/02
Posts: 68
Loc: israel
it seems that the merket of hair removal/reduction is really growing.

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#6150 - 06/21/02 02:35 AM Re: Epil Stop cucumber melon
Ted Striker Offline
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Registered: 05/03/02
Posts: 21
The local police where Epil Stop is based get calls all the time complaining about them.

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#6151 - 07/02/02 03:34 PM Re: Epil Stop cucumber melon
Teen Offline
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Registered: 06/24/02
Posts: 34
Kalo doesn't work at all. I've tried that. NO results.

Moreover, the conseption of "cheap product" is quite misleading. From the Microeconomics course - "The opportunity coast of doing something is the best forgone alternative", what means that when you buy a $30 product, which is not proven to work you:
1) Paying $30
2) Spending time ordering it
3) Spending time working with it
4) Since it is not proven, you risk to get some harm from it (As people got scin cancer (milanoma) from X-ray hair removal method).
5) You, most likely, do not use other kinds of products as you expect the current product to work.
6) Finally, you may get disapointed when the product doesn't work for you.

Specifically, when you sumarize all the expences caused by the product, you may came up theat it's pretty expensive (Not only in terms of money, but in terms of other values as well).

So, "Since it's cheap, I have nothing to loose" is not the point and should be reconsidered to ensure the optimal allocation of resources.

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#6152 - 07/02/02 05:32 PM Re: Epil Stop cucumber melon
Andrea Administrator Offline
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Registered: 03/22/02
Posts: 3926
Loc: Los Angeles
Good point, Teen, but there is a factor that's harder to fit into an equations, which is that some people throw rationality out the window when making purchasing decisions.

Quacks know that if they set their product at a certain price like 20 or 30 bucks, they can "motivate trial" (to use the marketing term), and even with a money-back guarantee, they know many consumers won't bother returning it. Some consumers are willing to gamble $20 on an unproven product to avoid paying much more on something that's proven to work.

On the other end of the spectrum, some quacks successfully set a price that's astronomical, knowing that some consumers will think, well if it's that much, it MUST work!

It's the reason places like Vegas are so wealthy. They know that some consumers think that they are special and will get lucky with an unproven product, no matter how badly the odds are stacked against them. Obviously, there's no reasoning with consumers like this.

They say a lottery is a tax on people who are bad at math. I guess quackery is a tax on people who are bad at scientific evaluation.

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#6153 - 09/18/02 09:39 AM Re: Epil Stop cucumber melon
amanda Offline
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Registered: 09/18/02
Posts: 13
The Epil-Stop does contain warnings: We have warnings on the instructions inside the box, on our website, and our Epil-Stop instructional video. Our own Clinical Research has shown very safe and effective in the removal of hair when the instructions are followed correctly.

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#6154 - 09/18/02 01:57 PM Re: Epil Stop cucumber melon
amanda Offline
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Registered: 09/18/02
Posts: 13
Hi! Just wanted to write and say my boyfriend got the Epil-Stop and Spray for me today, I used it on my arm first,just to test and it worked wonderfully!!No stinging, no redness, no hair remover smell at all!!!My skin was soft just like you said it would be, I am totally amazed!
Thanks and have a great day!!
Carma Downs
ivsnclair1@aol.com

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#6155 - 09/18/02 01:59 PM Re: Epil Stop cucumber melon
amanda Offline
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Registered: 09/18/02
Posts: 13
I bought some of Epil-Stop products couple days ago and I'am very satisfied.
Irwin2@home.com

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#6156 - 09/18/02 02:04 PM Re: Epil Stop cucumber melon
amanda Offline
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Registered: 09/18/02
Posts: 13
I have been very pleased with your hair removal product Epil-Stop.
Deborah Adamietz
adamietz55@aol.com

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#6157 - 09/18/02 02:07 PM Re: Epil Stop cucumber melon
amanda Offline
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Registered: 09/18/02
Posts: 13
Just tried the Epil-Stop and Spray, Fantastic product.
lawbird97@aol.com [Big Grin]

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#6158 - 09/18/02 02:10 PM Re: Epil Stop cucumber melon
amanda Offline
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Registered: 09/18/02
Posts: 13
Hi,
I've purchasd your Epil-Stop package a couple weeks ago and it had a great effect on my body. I've removed 27 yrs old growth that bothered me in the last 2-3 years on the entire top of my body(back and front)
Sincerely,
vlad
vlad_ronin@excite.com

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#6159 - 09/18/02 02:13 PM Re: Epil Stop cucumber melon
amanda Offline
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Registered: 09/18/02
Posts: 13
I have previously purchased your Epil-Stop and Spray and i am extremely pleased with the results I have obtained.
Karen.ballou@sgcollp.com

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#6160 - 09/18/02 02:18 PM Re: Epil Stop cucumber melon
amanda Offline
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Registered: 09/18/02
Posts: 13
I used your Epil-Stop product for the first time last night. I have to first of all say that I am very impressed. It really was as easy as the infomercial made it seem.
Dockery Carla
ext1cad@ups.com

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#6161 - 09/18/02 02:22 PM Re: Epil Stop cucumber melon
amanda Offline
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Registered: 09/18/02
Posts: 13
I bought and used your product Epil-Stop and Spray and it is by far the best hair removal procedure I have ever tried. It not only removes the hair better than any other system but it also leaves your skin super soft.
Jo Ann love
jodi@hitter.net

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#6162 - 09/18/02 02:34 PM Re: Epil Stop cucumber melon
amanda Offline
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Registered: 09/18/02
Posts: 13
Thanks for making Epil-Stop. I just bought it today and I love it. It works great and my legs have never been smoother! Thanks
Rachel East
mystcgm5@aol.com

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#6163 - 09/18/02 02:36 PM Re: Epil Stop cucumber melon
amanda Offline
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Registered: 09/18/02
Posts: 13
Hello,
My name is Sophia and I live in Sweden. I bought your Epil-Stop some time ago from TV-Shop here in Sweden and I think it's fabulous!!
Thank you very much,
Sophia
lusen11@hotmail.com

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#6164 - 09/18/02 02:38 PM Re: Epil Stop cucumber melon
amanda Offline
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Registered: 09/18/02
Posts: 13
I recently purchased your product from my local store after watching your informecials on TV for so long. I used it on a Monday and it did a great job at taking the hair off and I was pleased.
Thank you,
Ms. Cecchetto
cecchettoent@shaw.ca

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#6165 - 09/18/02 05:45 PM Re: Epil Stop cucumber melon
Orange Offline
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Registered: 08/17/02
Posts: 22
Uhh, Amanda, why the heck do you keep posting fictitious posts after you already slipped and said that "your" product was safe and effective? Lying isn't going to make your product any better.

Andrea, what's going on here?

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#6166 - 09/19/02 08:30 AM Re: Epil Stop cucumber melon
amanda Offline
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Registered: 09/18/02
Posts: 13
These are actual testimonials of satisfy customers that have used Epil-Stop & Spray products.

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#6167 - 09/19/02 03:05 PM Re: Epil Stop cucumber melon
Andrea Administrator Offline
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Registered: 03/22/02
Posts: 3926
Loc: Los Angeles
And for every satisfied consumers there seems to be one with second-degree chemical burns.

ePinions: Epil-Stop complaints

The headlines say it all:

Epil stop drop and roll
by bonoriffic  
Pros: 2nd degree burns without the need for fire
Cons: See above
May 23 '02

Epil Stop & Spray Burns
by avalanche333  
Pros: None
Cons: Epil Stop & Spray Burns
May 29 '02

Epil-stop gave me a 2nd-degree chemical burn.
by gdess  
Pros: None
Cons: Epil-stop can cause chemical burns.
Aug 10 '02

What a waste of money
by Kisses4Sal  
Pros: Nothing
Cons: Doesn't remove hair at all!!
Jul 30 '02 Helpful

Biggest RIP-OFF of the year!
by babyMONKEY  
Pros: Absolutely NOTHING!
Cons: DOES NOT WORK!
Jun 25 '02

Don't throw away your razor yet!
by concernedmom  
Pros: You learn to appreciate your razor!!!
Cons: It burns, it blisters, it doesn't remove hair, and leaves scabs!!!
Jun 21 '02

Epil-Stop-Right-Now!
by satenney  
Pros: None that I can possibly imagine
Cons: 1) Doesn't work! 2) Ow! Ow! Ow! Aug 05 '02

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bonorific's is worth presenting in its entirety.

Epil stop drop and roll
by bonoriffic |
May 23 '02 (Updated May 23 '02)

Pros: 2nd degree burns without the need for fire
Cons: See above
The Bottom Line: This product is unfit to be used by any human who still has a central nervous system.
Recommended: No

Like most insomniacs out there, I find myself watching TV well past the time when regular programming exists. I have seen an infomercial for Epil-Stop many times, and it seemed like a dream come true. The main problem is I refuse to purchase these "As Seen on TV" products over the phone late at night.

One of the main things about Epil-Stop that perked my interest was the claim that you won't have to shave for several weeks. For women I could see this as a great advantage, but as a very lazy male, I too saw this as a great time saver. The commercial clearly shows a man with half of his face using the product and the other half not. Sure enough, after a few days the Epil-Stop applied side was smooth and soft, much to the delight of the lingerie model standing at his side.

A recent trip to Walgreens revealed Epil-Stop is now sold in stores! I was delighted at the opportunity to purchase this at a low price and not wait for delivery. The free terry cloth robe promised in the commercial is not included in the store bought version. I set out to try this product with hopes of attracting a lingerie model myself with my soft clean shaven face.

I read the directions from front to back. The first warning sign I saw was the clearly marked warning not to use this on your face! I was ready to take that risk, but decided to give it a test trial on my chest. You spray it on similar to any non-aresol pump spray. 1 pump covers an area about the size of a CD, but 2 or 3 pumps is needed before it is coated. I waited the minimum time required (4 mins.) and the only discomfort was a poor smell. I took a damp cloth and was prepared to wipe away my hair in a clean streak.

The result was about 2 hairs came off, possibly on their own, and I was left with a gooey chest that smelt bad. Perhaps I had strong hair, so I reapplied to wait for the maximum amount of time listed (8 total minutes). I did not reach that time limit as my chest began to burn. I grinned and took it for as long as I could. A few more hairs had come off, actually "melted" off into a black mess. My chest was red and tender and slightly blistered. The pain remained for several hours, as did the smell.

The kit comes with two spray on bottles and a roll on deodorant style applicator. The spray bottle is 4 fl. oz. The directions are on a few pieces of folded paper. One spray bottle would probably be able to cover 5 or 6 applications on an adult female's legs, if that female lived through the first application. The secret to Epil-Stop is that it unleashes the raw power of citrus. Despite that claim, the actual ingredients are:
- Deionzed water
- Ceteareth-20
- Cetyl alcohol
- Stearyl alcohol
- Thioglycolic acid
- Sodium hydroxide
- Glyceryl monosterate
- Mineral oil
- Ascorbic acid
- Orange oil
- Aloe vera
- Tocopherol acetate
- Fragrance

Just for the sake of stupidity, I did try a small patch of leg hair to see if that would do any better. It did not. The hair is dissolved, the result is a blackish goo. Even if this product did manage to remove more hair it still leaves a large percentage of the hair in various states of removal. Some left as stubble or very limp and damaged.

The total cost was under $20 and a small monetary risk. If it has cost more my level of anger would be much higher. This product will not work. Do not be fooled by the commercials showing effortless hair removal.

The smell is also quite foul. Do plan on taking a shower or bath after using this product. Also application to your private areas is also strongly warned against by the company.
Length of Use: Less than 1 month
Amount Paid (US$): 19.99
Battery Life: N/A
Noise Level: Almost noiseless

Andrea's Bottom Line: Epil-stop has a track record for causing serious burns, and I do not recommend it under any circumstances.

[ September 19, 2002, 03:09 PM: Message edited by: Andrea ]

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#6168 - 10/12/02 07:55 AM Re: Epil Stop cucumber melon
dt Offline
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Registered: 08/02/02
Posts: 3
Loc: nyc
Thanks Andrea for posting the epinion comments
on Epil stop. You beat me to the punch.

David

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