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#65099 - 08/19/09 11:20 PM Re: Selectif Pro - Applisonix [Re: vell]
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I sent an email thru their website to see if and when they would have SelectIF available in the US consumer market?

Why do you guys think this is gimmicky? Is the ultrasound technology not feasible to heat up the hair follicle enough to disable it?

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#65100 - 08/19/09 11:23 PM Re: Selectif Pro - Applisonix [Re: vell]
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Vell -

Do you know how much the device costs since they have already sold units? Even though it seems that it is not available in the consumer market, I'm curious to see roughly where it is at in terms of price.

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#65120 - 08/20/09 08:55 AM Re: Selectif Pro - Applisonix [Re: exhausted]
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You can purchase that on eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180388076346

But I would not recommend you this. It is too expensive, so it is better to pay little more and buy it in company which will provide you with all customer service. Every 35 000 treated hairs you have to buy a new probe for approximately 300$ and pins for similar amount.

I think, that it will be soon everywhere..

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#65130 - 08/20/09 05:34 PM Re: Selectif Pro - Applisonix [Re: exhausted]
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Originally Posted By: exhausted

Why do you guys think this is gimmicky? Is the ultrasound technology not feasible to heat up the hair follicle enough to disable it?



It's an electronic tweezer device, no matter what they try to call it now. It's been done, over and over and over.

The manufacturer doesn't even claim it to be permanent, rather "long term hair removal"...so is tweezing and waxing.

It's supposed to be a professional device...on eBay $7800.00-8200.00 (USD) yet the "probe" has to be replaced after only 35,000 hairs. I don't know if the $300 is USD or not, but that's expensive. It comes with 2 replacement "tips." So I'm guessing 3 tips used per probe? How much are the tips?

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#65143 - 08/21/09 01:04 AM Re: Selectif Pro - Applisonix [Re: Choice]
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Perhaps it is only long-term. Long-term is relative though. If it lasts longer than waxing and is less painful people may use it. If it is less expensive and less painful than laser, which, from my understanding is "long-term" then people will use it.

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#65148 - 08/21/09 01:58 AM Re: Selectif Pro - Applisonix [Re: jme1]
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It's not a tweezer device, it uses ultrasound in the same way as laser, to knock out the folicle.

Once they can get versions out that can treat larger portions of the body (which they are working on), I think this will start to become more popular.

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#65150 - 08/21/09 02:51 AM Re: Selectif Pro - Applisonix [Re: S-Wave]
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Originally Posted By: S-Wave
It's not a tweezer device, it uses ultrasound in the same way as laser, to knock out the folicle.


The demo video shows otherwise. Sound waves, microwaves, tidal waves...not traveling down a hair shaft, Hair Biology 101.

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#65161 - 08/21/09 04:07 PM Re: Selectif Pro - Applisonix [Re: Choice]
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That's not what their website says:

http://www.applisonix.com/overview.asp?id=-435802050

The IMPRESA™ technology utilizes the hair and the skin characteristics to make the hair serve as an accurate and efficient ultrasonic waveguide. An ultrasonic head is used to focus the acoustic energy directly into the hair shaft, channeling ultrasound energy precisely to the hair root, where the energy is converted into heat. As a result, the hair root`s temperature rapidly exceeds the level that is required to cause long-term damage to the hair’s re-growth mechanisms. Since the energy is accurately applied through the hair shaft, the surrounding skin is not affected. IMPRESA™ is applicable to all hair colors and skin tones, engaging negligible pain (if any), and it can be used safely for almost all body areas.


I think it would be better just to ask vell if there was any tweezing/plucking/waxing involved since he/she has actually used the device.

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#65164 - 08/21/09 06:31 PM Re: Selectif Pro - Applisonix [Re: S-Wave]
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Please ask "veil" if you need to. I don't need to. I majored in biology in college, then on to electrolysis school, then laser school. I hit every manufacturers' event in my area that I'm invited to or that will allow me, laser and gadgets, in addition to getting my CEU's. I think I understand hair and what is needed in order to disable a follicle permanently and/or temporarily. I also know tweezers when I see them, regardless of what the manufacturer names it...probe. Electrologists call theirs "forceps." These same forceps are called "tweezers" by the general public. If I grasp a hair and remove it with my fingernails, that's "tweezing" as well.

If you believe so strongly in what the MANUFACTURER'S web site is telling you, then buy it, sell it, whatever your true interest in this gadget is.

Those of us who are professionals in the permanent hair removal industry deal daily with clients who have had their hopes toyed with by lotions, potions, and gadgets. Because they have lost their hope and trust in the entire hair removal industry, we professionals are left with rebuilding the trust that the scam products destroyed. When we try to help strangers online avoid wasting their time and money, we are disrespected. This entire site, hairfacts and hairtell provides you with the tools you need to make an educated decision.

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#65173 - 08/21/09 11:06 PM Re: Selectif Pro - Applisonix [Re: Choice]
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Here is the reply I got from Applisonix in terms of this unit being sold to consumers:

Selectif is a device for aesthetic professionals. It is currently available in many international markets, but not yet in the US. There are no current plans to market a consumer device in the US.Please let me know if I can help with any other inquiries.

Best Regards,

Yossi Aloni
Applisonix



I didnt ask them about the version that could treat a larger body area...but i got this response thru their website's feedback form so you all can use that if you want the latest info from them.

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