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#78750 - 09/24/10 12:58 AM Can you kill your sweat glands with electrolysis?
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I suffer from a condition called hyperhidrosis (excessive sweating) in the armpits and feet.

Does electrolysis of armpit hair destroy some sweat glands too? If not, can an electrologist find a way to kill some of the sweat glands there?
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#78800 - 09/26/10 12:28 AM Re: Can you kill your sweat glands with electrolysis? [Re: tembo]
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No takers?


Edited by tembo (09/26/10 12:29 AM)

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#78802 - 09/26/10 01:15 AM Re: Can you kill your sweat glands with electrolysis? [Re: tembo]
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Electrolysis is not an effective treatment for hyperhydrosis. You have too many sweat glands and all are not even associated with a growing hair. If every follicle that had a hair growing in it was overtreated, perhaps some sweat glands would be wiped out, but there are plenty more in waiting ready to do their thing.

The most effective way to control excessive sweating is to have an outpatient procedure that takes about 30-45 minutes, where an incision is made under the armpit. A nerve that stimulates the sweat glands is cut and results are immediate. There are other non-surgical remedies like Botox, for instance. Botox paralyzes the nerve, but it has to be repeated every 6 months unfortunately.
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#78804 - 09/26/10 02:02 AM Re: Can you kill your sweat glands with electrolysis? [Re: dfahey]
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I've READ that electrolysis helps, but have no first hand knowledge that it does.

The Fischer company has a device that helps hands and feet. See at http://rafischer.com/
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#78811 - 09/26/10 11:23 AM Re: Can you kill your sweat glands with electrolysis? [Re: Barbara_CPE]
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Hi, I have had under my arms done with electrolysis for over 30 years now, I don't sweat at all under my arm. I seem to recall that I used too.

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#78812 - 09/26/10 02:23 PM Re: Can you kill your sweat glands with electrolysis? [Re: Lindy1954]
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I, too, have had my underarm hair completely removed for 20 years now with electrolysis and I THINK I have less sweating? but I still sweat, I don't know why you don't Lindy, but that's is great for you. Underarm odor is reduced because there is no hair to trap bacteria and degrade the sweat, which is a real plus. Not every sweat gland on the underarm can be effected with electrolysis by overtreating the follicle in the hope of destroying the sweat gland. We don't like to overtreat any hair follicle anyway. There is nothing you can do about the sweaty soles of your feet or the palms of your hands, in regard to electrolysis, because there are no hair follicles in these places to treat.

To explain futher, allow me to conduct a mini anatomy lesson. Don't fall asleep now. sleep

We all have SUDORIFEROUS GLANDS. Under this title, there are two glands that make sweat:

1. The eccrine gland
2. The apocrine gland

Eccrine glands are found in vast quantities all over the body and they exist alone, meaning, they have no connection to the hair follicle. A watery, odorless substance comes from these glands.

Apocrine glands are found only in certain areas of the body like the underarms, anal and genital areas. They secrete their sweat into the hair follicle and do not stand alone like the eccrine glands. They are connected to the hair follicle.

The reason I gave that information is because electrolysis CAN BE HELPFUL for a condition called APOCRINE BROMHIDROSIS or "stinking sweat" or "body odor". No matter how clean these individuals are with Apocrine Bromhidrosis, they stink all the time, which is kind of hard on their social and work life. The underarms have the most active apocrine glands. Once these glands secrete and the liquid comes to the surface, it is odorless, but within an hour or so as it mixes the natural bacteria that is present on the skin, one starts to stink really bad. Electrolysis is helpful for this kind of sweat because the apocrine glands empty right into the hair follicle to get liquid to the skin surface. The eccrine glands(billions and billions everywhere) do not empty into the hair follicle, they stand alone outside the hair follicle. As for the apocrine glands, once the hair follicle is destroyed, their secretions have nowhere to go, so the body just reabsorbs the secretions and the smelly problem goes away. Perfect!

So, dear tembo, if apocrine bromhydrosis is your problem, electrolysis will help (maybe laser, too). If you are secreting lots of watery sweat everywhere, but especially on your underarms, electrolysis is not the supreme treatment of choice and it is doubtful that it works for this problem at most. I still sweat, but I never was a big sweater anyway. Snipping that sympathetic nerve under the axilla (armpit) is most helpful after you have tried all non-surgical options. Your physician should be consulted if you are having a serious problem with this. By your original post, I was assuming that you don't have an odor problem (apocrine glands), but rather an excessive sweating problem (eccrine glands).
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#78814 - 09/26/10 04:14 PM Re: Can you kill your sweat glands with electrolysis? [Re: dfahey]
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Not to hijack the thread, but this just reminded me of something that has been happening with my armpit and electrolysis. Is it possible to start sweating MORE when you get electrolysis in your armpit?

I have never been an armpit sweater... never had "pit stains" to complain about, and very rarely did my armpits smell. I even stopped using deodorant and antiperspirant because I didn't need it at all. They aren't super hairy, either. I'd say they are less than what is considered an "average" amount of hair, really.


When I started electrolysis in both armpits, I noticed after a few treatments that I was starting to feel moisture in my armpits, and eventually started getting pit stains! For monetary reasons, I had to reduce the time I spent with my electrologist, and so we only had time for one armpit instead of both (by my request, she didn't want to make my armpits uneven but I really didn't care about that). Now I'm only having the sweating situation in the one armpit she's been working on. The other armpit that has not had treatment in some time barely sweats, if at all. The smell is extremely mild, and sometimes non-existant.

Anyone know anything about why that might happen?

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#78815 - 09/26/10 04:23 PM Re: Can you kill your sweat glands with electrolysis? [Re: appliepie]
dfahey Offline

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You have less hair to trap the moisture that secrete from the eccrine glands in one of your arm pits. The other pit with more hair, is holding the moisture. Remember, there are countless billions of eccrine glands in your armpits and all over your body. Just goes to show that even with partial hair removal, you still have fully functioning eccrine glands and my observation remains that you will still sweat after all the hair is treated.
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http://www.electrolysis.co.uk/?page_id=16

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#78829 - 09/27/10 09:14 PM Re: Can you kill your sweat glands with electrolysis? [Re: dfahey]
spicegirl479 Offline
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Best way to get rid of sweaty pits is botox injections, which will need top ups every few months.I had this done and it worked wonders.
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#78830 - 09/27/10 10:03 PM Re: Can you kill your sweat glands with electrolysis? [Re: spicegirl479]
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Certain Dri is a great anti-sweating product. I've used it for years.

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