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#43415 - 07/03/07 05:16 PM Different types of machines
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I was going to someone who uses the blend method. She was removing about 5-7 hairs a minute. Is there any advantage to using this method. The needle seems to stay in the skin for a few seconds so the process is slower/longer. But I didn't know if there was an advantage to this method. I tried another place and she used a different machine but she was SO SLOWWWWWWWWWWWW that she removed less then 1 hair a minute. I spent $75 for one hour and had about 60 hairs removed. Is there a particular type of machine that is better than another?

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#43427 - 07/04/07 12:44 AM Re: Different types of machines [Re: ht2003]
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It's not the machine that's the problem. All modalities that fall under the heading of electrolysis work! Whether it be thermolysis (in all it glorious forms), Blend or straight galvanic, they ALL destroy tissue that keeps hair growing.

As a practicing electrologist, I was trained and can do all three methods comfortably, but I choose to do microflash thermolysis on a computerized epilator for the exact reason that I hear in your pleaful post above. People want the hair off as fast as possible. Can't blame them. People want the sensation to be tolerable. Can't blame them. People want the skin reaction to be minimal. For sure! All this is possible if one can find an electrologist that can skillfully insert a probe into a pocket called the follicle to the correct depth. Using a computerized epilator with good vision magnification and quality lighting completes the circle.

Microflash thermolysis is just as deadly the blend method or SLOOOOOOOOWWWW Galvanic. Electrologists that disagree usually do not have experience with the hands on application of this method. It requires spending money to get to this level,so some electrologists are not willing to put out the cash for their own good reasons. If someone doesn't do microflash, then flash thermolysis is good. Blend is fine as well, but is slower than the flash thermolysis variations.

It is my hope that someday, all electrologists are trained and thus comfortable enough to perform microflash thermolysis on all clients. It would certainly benefit people like yourself if more electrologists were available to the general public to offer this strategy.

I use microflash 90% of time and Blend 10%. I need (and like) both modalities. If I were a consumer, I would become quickly disillusioned by anyone who performed straight galvanic on me. It's a good method, but takes too long. Why use something with these limitations when you can reach the end of the road with a modality that will get you clear fast and keep you clear until there is nothing left to clear? Microflash serves anyone with unwanted hair well.

Permanent hair removal, via electrolysis, specifically, microflash thermolysis has come into the modern computerized world, but unfortunately, not all practitioners have jumped on the bus. I would encourage you to hunt for someone that can speed up this process for you. If there is no one in your locale, then a blend only electrologist would be better than a multi-probe electrologist.
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#43428 - 07/04/07 01:03 AM Re: Different types of machines [Re: ]
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I could not agree more. Mega Dittos Dee!
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#43432 - 07/04/07 03:12 AM Re: Different types of machines [Re: ht2003]
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Just so you can put it in perspective ht2003, I'm an amateur with my own flash capable machine. I have successfully cleared large areas on myself. I can do a hair in about 2 to 3 seconds . The hairs clear well, and I have no complications at two to three hits of power per hair. My pro, who is the best in San Diego, clears faster with sometimes more hits per hair.

You're missing out.

Break out the phonebook again.

Mantaray.
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#43433 - 07/04/07 03:22 AM Re: Different types of machines [Re: James W. Walker VII]
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Wow!! Thanks for taking the time to explain all of this to me.

I just need to do a quick recap before I start making calls tomorrow.

My first choice (assuming the person is knowledgeable and is good at what they do), is to find someone who uses Thermolysis. There are two types of machines; Microflash and Flash.

Blend. Are there more than one type of blend machine? Is blend the machine that you need to hold an attachment in your hands while the machine is being used? I think the woman I used to go to called it Blend. When she inserted the needle it would make this beeping noise and would remain in the hair follicle for at least a few beeping noises.

What is a multi-probe electrologist?

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#43435 - 07/04/07 02:47 PM Re: Different types of machines [Re: ht2003]
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A mutli-probe electrologist uses galvanic only. However, to speed things up, she/he will use a rack that contains several small wires with individual probes connected to each wire. This "speeds" things up for the galvanic method, whereas you can treat 12-15 hairs at one time instead of one hair if using one probe only. Very effective, but very slow.

Many machines are set up so one can perform Galvanic, Blend and Thermolysis, but not all have the multi-probe option.

With the push of a button or roll of a knob one can switched back and forth to perform all modalities from one machine. On my epilator, I can do microflash, slow thermolysis, blend and galvanic. The choices are all there, but it is up to me to decide which one I want to use. Some machines are only capable of doing thermolysis only.

When you hold the indifferent electrode in your hand or the attachment as you call it, you are getting blend. You also will need to hold the indifferent electrode if your electrologist does not want to use a foot switch and has chosen instead to use the automatic timimg feature of her epilator which requires you to connect to the epilator in order for the current to be discharged after the probe is inserted into the follicle. So, you may have to hold something for blend or thermolysis depending on what epilator your electrologist owns.

You are not shopping around for types of machines, but rather modalities used by a skilled electrologist. This will all fall in place for you as you go forward and check out the different practitioners in your locale or beyond.

Dee
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#88494 - 06/10/11 12:42 AM Re: Different types of machines [Re: ]
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what is the difference between microflash and apilius platinium pure ?

Which one is more efficient in getting hair follicles killed and etc?


I see so many posts on here discussing various machines but I simply haven't got the slightest idea of what happens behind the curtains.

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#88496 - 06/10/11 02:31 AM Re: Different types of machines [Re: coates]
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MicroFlash is a type of thermolysis, The Apilus Platinum Pure (and the Apilus Platinum) are types of Electrolysis Machines. It just so happens, that a Platinum, or Platinum Pure do PicoFlash, while the machine before it, The Apilus SX-500 and SM-500 do MicroFlash.

If performed correctly, MicroFlash is more comfortable than what is now termed "slow thermolysis" and PicoFlash is more comfortable than MicroFlash... again, when used correctly.

In any event, the skill of the practitioner is the most important thing.
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