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#88508 - 06/10/11 12:27 PM Re: *Sigh* my neck still looks like hell [Re: chewbacca86]
stoppit&tidyup Offline
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Hi chewie,

I saw you read what James posted in another thread about insertions, which I'm glad because I was going to quote that here for you.

Now, your electrologist is right for wanting to treat at effective settings but still, I believe it is possible to treat at effective settings without this sort of reaction. Now here is the problem, maybe this electrologist cannot do it. I'm going to guess she is using thermolysis? If so, does she have the ability to use blend? If I were an electrologist with a basic multi functional machine and I could not get the hairs out with thermolysis without causing this kind of reaction, I'd go for blend, especially if the hairs are thick and deeply rooted. It will have its own reaction of swelling, redness, maybe whiteheads but I don't believe it would be as bad as this or last as long. Again, it depends on the electrologist though.

If this electrologist has no other avenue to try other than what she started with, then my suggestion is that you need to keep looking for someone who has the ability (because of their tech or otherwise) to do the work without leaving you looking like this.
If you want to stay with her, you can suggest the Laurer IBP to her. You can show her the info on how it works and some of the testimonials e.g. Caith's. Explain that you understand that higher settings are required to get the hairs out and you believe that this probe can allow her to do that with less reaction. You can offer to buy them if she's willing to give them a try.

I know no one likes to be told how to do their job. However, I think, if there is room for improvement one should be open to it. Caith's electrologist was not offended by the suggestion.
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34/F/UK
Laser for reduction on Underarms, Bikini, Full Legs & 3/4 Arms. Skin type IV
Electrolysis - Further details in: My sister's electrolysis diary
[27hrs of Blend, April 2008-Dec 2010 in UK, for coarse hair on lower sideburns, coarse chin hair, completed upper lip, shaped eyebrows]
[Sept 2011 to Nov 2013, once yearly sessions with Josefa. Completed reduction of facial/neck fuzz in approx 27 hrs TTT]

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#88520 - 06/11/11 12:59 AM Re: *Sigh* my neck still looks like hell [Re: stoppit&tidyup]
chewbacca86 Offline
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Registered: 02/14/11
Posts: 112
Loc: Michigan
Hey stoppit! My electrologist only uses thermolysis, as she states that from personal experience she has not found any other method to work as well. I've heard another electrologist make the same statement before and I wonder why? I suppose every electrologist has their own thoughts and opinions or maybe they are able to effectively use the other methods as well? I'm unsure. I doubt this electrologist would be too willing to try anything new such as changing her probe, as she seems a bit stuck in her ways, but I will give it a shot. I'm considering trying yet another electrologist which is quite a bit further away from home. I will probably try my best to work with the one I've been seeing that I closer to home, but I would like to shop around and see what else is out there. Thank you for the advice! I will keep everyone updated!

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#89076 - 06/24/11 06:38 PM Re: *Sigh* my neck still looks like hell [Re: chewbacca86]
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Alright, so it has been a while since I've posted. Since the last time, I've had two more electrolysis treatments and had her clear the whole area. I'm currently still going to the same electrologist that left me with a bunch of scabs on my face. The treatments are a bit better in the sense that I'm getting fewer scabs, but on the downside I'm left with more bumpy redness. I've been trying tea tree oil and aloe vera gel as Dee suggested. My skin didn't tolerate this well the first couple of times, but I've learned to use less and after a while my skin has gotten a bit used to it and I do think it helps for aftercare.

Overall, my skin does look pretty bad and not currently presentable to the public. I just had a treatment today about two hours ago and I'm a bumpy mess. It is quite overwhelming and over the course of the past couple of weeks I've pretty much locked myself in my room and sulked while the rest of the world was living. It sounds pathetic, but this whole process can turn a person into an emotional roller-coaster ride. How badly I want my life and confidence back.

On a little more positive note, the sides of my face do look a little bit better hair wise. It appears less and thinner, but I almost hate to admit that too early into the game. I don't want to give anyone else or myself false hope. I will be more eager to express excitement the day I can go a full month without needing treatment... if that is ever possible for me.

As far as concerns, I don't enjoy that sometimes my electrologist needs to zap a hair up to 4-5 times to treat it and even then it is hard to tell if I'm feeling more of a tug or a pluck. Every once in a while I can definitely tell it is a pluck and other times it feels like maybe more of a tug. It actually feels like that on most hairs. My second concern is the big bumpy reaction I get that lasts days. The bumps usually last a good three days and the color is close to faded by the time my next appointment arrives. That means no uplifting days for me, which sucks, but I hope things get better.

Additional news: I have made yet another appointment with a different electrologist. This one is located further from home (about an hour and a half), but was recommended by someone who has had success with her before. I hope all goes well at this new appointment. It is encouraging to hear that someone else has had success with this one, but I'm not going to get too excited until I can judge for myself. Either way, I will keep everyone updated on this long, fun-filled journey!

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#89078 - 06/24/11 07:54 PM Re: *Sigh* my neck still looks like hell [Re: chewbacca86]
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Registered: 03/09/11
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Loc: London
Hello Chewbacca

I hope your appointment goes well at the next electrologist. It'll be worth the long drive if she's good. I've seen 3 electrologists and there is a difference between all of them. With one, I could feel the hair being removed - i'm guessing it must have been plucking, but as you said, sometimes its hard to tell if its a tug or pluck. My reaction was great afterwards - hardly any reddness. The next one, I could feel about 50% being tugged/plucked and my reaction was a little redder. However, with my current electrologist I don't feel a single hair being removed. The process does seem to be a little more painful than the others and I'm a even redder - but this fades in a few hours, leaving me a bit pink the next day by fine by the second day. When I first started with her though, for half an hour a week, my skin took a week to heel. Its been over 6 months now. I'm still going once a week but for 15 min now. The black, coarse hairs do seem to be fewer and finer. I just thought I'd share this with you. Its a long process but hopefully well worth it in the end! I can see a difference in my hair but I won't truly believe an end is insight until I can get my appointments down to 15min once a fortnight - I hope I'll be there by month 8! Fingers crossed! I'm glad your next electrologist has been recommended to you. That should give you some hope. I have not been able to find any reviews of recommendations for mine, so I'm just hoping she's as good as she seems to be. I'll look forward to reading your next update.

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#89102 - 06/25/11 12:47 PM Re: *Sigh* my neck still looks like hell [Re: Marigold]
chewbacca86 Offline
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Loc: Michigan
Marigold - I have also been to three electrologist total and I can agree that each one is very different. It just makes it all the harder to determine what is normal. I've watched some electrolysis videos on youtube and based on how I see it being performed, I often wonder why some of us are left with such horrific skin reactions. Unless, those videos are fake representations. I don't know.

It sounds like you have made quite a bit of progress! Did you say you are on month 6? I hope things continue to get better for you and I pray for the day that the both of us can forget about these weekly appointments!

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#89107 - 06/25/11 07:04 PM Re: *Sigh* my neck still looks like hell [Re: chewbacca86]
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Originally Posted By: chewbacca86
I often wonder why some of us are left with such horrific skin reactions. Unless, those videos are fake representations. I don't know.



To what end, someone would represent a farce? All the videos I found on YouTube showing a genuine Electrolysis. Different techniques with their advantages and disadvantages, but all of them valid. In almost all videos hair glides without resistance and this can not be falsified. The spread of these videos is important because it helps tell the difference between a good treatment and one that is not.


Edited by depilacionelectr (06/25/11 07:51 PM)
Edit Reason: error in translation.

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#89123 - 06/26/11 02:06 AM Re: *Sigh* my neck still looks like hell [Re: ]
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Jossie's are not fake . It is possible to get a large block of electrolysis done and not have a horrific skin reaction. She documents her work and I back her up on this because I can deliver the same thing to my clients, as can many other skilled electrologists around the world. We need more electrologists that can do this, granted! So many hairy people.........!
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#89128 - 06/26/11 07:29 AM Re: *Sigh* my neck still looks like hell [Re: ]
chewbacca86 Offline
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Registered: 02/14/11
Posts: 112
Loc: Michigan
Jossie has videos? Or are you talking about the pictures posted? I'm not saying the youtube videos are fake, but when I watch them it makes me feel like they are because I've been to three electrologist and I've always come out looking like I've been attacked by a dozen bees. It is just hard to fathom that a treatment can go as smoothly as it looks on those videos. And after watching them, it is even harder to understand how some of these electrologist can make us come out looking like a riddled mess! It has been almost day two and the bumps have died down a bit, but there is hyperpigmentation galore. I'm also concerned how safe it is to continue going each week to add to that issue? It is rather embarrassing!


Edited by chewbacca86 (06/26/11 07:30 AM)

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#89131 - 06/26/11 11:01 AM Re: *Sigh* my neck still looks like hell [Re: chewbacca86]
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#89136 - 06/26/11 01:22 PM Re: *Sigh* my neck still looks like hell [Re: ]
stoppit&tidyup Offline
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Registered: 05/04/08
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Loc: London, UK
Great video's, thanks Josefa!

Heee! I heard James' voice for the first time.

chewie - My regular electrologist in London and the two others I have tried have all been 1.5-2 hrs distance from my house. You really have to get out there. I also think you should find someone who uses blend (if you cannot find someone who uses the thermolysis modes like Dee and Josefa) and give that a go.

And even then, although the work was fine in terms of skin reaction, I did not feel we were getting value for money in terms of hair removal. So now my sister flew 2hrs to Josefa in May and we hope to go again in a few months, with me joining her.

It's not easy, but when you find the right electrologist, everything falls into place.
_________________________
34/F/UK
Laser for reduction on Underarms, Bikini, Full Legs & 3/4 Arms. Skin type IV
Electrolysis - Further details in: My sister's electrolysis diary
[27hrs of Blend, April 2008-Dec 2010 in UK, for coarse hair on lower sideburns, coarse chin hair, completed upper lip, shaped eyebrows]
[Sept 2011 to Nov 2013, once yearly sessions with Josefa. Completed reduction of facial/neck fuzz in approx 27 hrs TTT]

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