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#86709 - 05/01/11 11:35 PM How practical is DIY electrolysis?
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Hey everyone just wondering about the above... I'm not talking about with a Onetouch or what not, I'm talking about buying an actual good machine that can do blend or whatever it is. I own the one touch but I find it's really hard to use, getting the insertions correct is a pain in the you know what. I also find it's realllllly slow and pretty painful for most areas. I'd say the most I'd want to spend is $400-500 so not sure if there's even anything for that much available. The areas I'd most likely want to do would be my forearms, and possibly pubic type area, as in bikini zone, and to make my pubic hair line lower. Not talking about brazillian obviously or anything like that, just the hairs that are visible if wearing briefs for example. So just some questions:

/ How long would it take to get actually good with insertions? Doing my left forearm doesn't seem too bad but I'm guessing doing the right one would be a huge pain? I couldn't imagine doing it with the one touch since it's too finicky but with a good machine with foot pedal and what not would it be easier?

/ I've only done electrolysis once professionally and it was on my chest using galvanic I believe and I found it painful. Doing the one touch on pubic area is really painful, are professional machines going to be similar?

Really just wondering if professional machines are better and if they even exist in that range. Would love to do blend or whatever the fast method is, as the one touch is way too slow, I have no patience for that.

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#86710 - 05/01/11 11:48 PM Re: How practical is DIY electrolysis? [Re: ]
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#86712 - 05/01/11 11:51 PM Re: How practical is DIY electrolysis? [Re: James W. Walker VII]
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Ships to USA only smile

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#86714 - 05/01/11 11:54 PM Re: How practical is DIY electrolysis? [Re: ]
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Don't you have friends in the US?

Aren't you planning on having dinner at Niagara Falls sometime soon?
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#86716 - 05/02/11 12:00 AM Re: How practical is DIY electrolysis? [Re: James W. Walker VII]
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Haha nope and nope but that's okay I guess I'll just wait. Don't understand people that only ship to USA, I sell on eBay all the time, doesn't make a difference to me whether I ship locally or charge the person actual shipping to their country lol.

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#86783 - 05/02/11 10:58 PM Re: How practical is DIY electrolysis? [Re: ]
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I have two blend machines that I bought on Ebay in your range so it is possible but that is not the end of it. You'll need needles, optical aids (magnifiers), lighting, and you'll probably want numbing cream. A budget of $1000 is more realistic to get started. If you are reasonably handy, you'll pick up insertions fairly quickly as long as you can see what you are doing. Search for my other posts comparing machines I bought and optical aids. In a sense, insertions are easier to learn on yourself because you can feel what you are doing. When you do insertions on someone else, the feedback is indirect (them screaming). I'd say the much harder part to figure out is effective power level. You need enough power and time to release the hair but pain is a factor as well as skin damage so you can't go too high. Even if a hair epilates easily, you don't know until a few weeks later what your kill rate is. Even then its hard to tell if the same follicle is growing back or you are seeing hairs from different follicles. We have been working for a few months on my pubic area and wife's arm pits and have made several passes and are still getting growbacks.

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#86784 - 05/02/11 11:10 PM Re: How practical is DIY electrolysis? [Re: Rhodesengr]
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Keep in mind that in order to know that your hair removal work was good, one must take a before picture, an after picture, and then take another picture one year later, on the same day, and that would show the difference between the before picture, and the picture one year later. Hair seen 3 to 6 weeks later would be from other follicles, and a different growth phase. It takes at least 9 months for all hairs from all follicles to show themselves just once.

As you work, if you are doing well, somewhere around the 3rd month, you would see significant reduction in number of hairs, due to the lack of shedding hairs that would otherwise be present. By winter one would have much fewer hairs, as the winter phase has fewer growing hairs, and more shedding hairs.

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#86786 - 05/02/11 11:19 PM Re: How practical is DIY electrolysis? [Re: James W. Walker VII]
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Thanks James. I have read your 9-month timeframe in your other posts and it is the basis of our forging on. What I was saying, is that when you first start, its hard to tell if you are using enough time and power to get a kill or even a smooth release. You can't just turn up the power to "make sure" because it either hurts too much or causes skin reaction (scabs and such).

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#88350 - 06/07/11 06:40 AM Re: How practical is DIY electrolysis? [Re: Rhodesengr]
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It takes quite a bit of experience, but in time you will develop a feel and judgment when a hair is just difficult to remove or when you should increase the settings (and which settings to turn up, possibly turn down another at the same time, and by how much.) I found this is especially hard when dealing with hairs that are badly distorted and/or have bulbs much larger than the shaft.
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#89666 - 07/09/11 02:41 AM Re: How practical is DIY electrolysis? [Re: Anonymous]
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To answer your questions:

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?:/ How long would it take to get actually good with insertions?


About a month with daily practice in an optimal visibility areas with straight hairs (ie the forearm) with good magnification. Then it's a long, experience based improvement learning curve that gets better as you tackle curled hairs, and not so optimal areas.

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?:Doing my left forearm doesn't seem too bad but I'm guessing doing the right one would be a huge pain?


Probably not, you'll get better using your other hand.

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?:I couldn't imagine doing it with the one touch since it's too finicky but with a good machine with foot pedal and what not would it be easier?

Yes, it would. For one thing, the hand-piece is lighter and can be handled with more finesse. With a pro machine, you can change out bent needles as well, and use more appropriate diameters.

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?:/ I've only done electrolysis once professionally and it was on my chest using galvanic I believe and I found it painful. Doing the one touch on pubic area is really painful, are professional machines going to be similar?


It's going to vary on different bodyparts. Make sure you go to a few more treatments from a pro before you buy a pro machine. Pain levels might be a factor with you continuing on your own.

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?:Really just wondering if professional machines are better and if they even exist in that range. Would love to do blend or whatever the fast method is, as the one touch is way too slow, I have no patience for that.


Spend more money on a good machine. If you go "pro" go all the way. You won't regret it. Better machines pay for themselves over time. Doing what I did, it would have been not so wise to save a couple hundred and do large scale work with a not so great machine.


Edited by Mantaray (07/09/11 02:44 AM)
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