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#61355 - 04/12/09 10:37 AM Re: Regrowth charts ***** [Re: lefty2g , LE, CPE]
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We agree on our love for this forum. Finally, I found a forum in which the level of expertise of my colleagues, is very high. Shame that this forum is not Spanish. Electrology do not need the publicity, has no competition, what it needs professionals who are good ... especially the work in Spain.

"...there can be three follicles growing in close proximity..."

The number of follicles we have throughout our life, is determined before birth. No increase in quantity, on the contrary, it declined slowly and progressively with age.
I have seen you mention the case of three different hairs in one follicle, but it is not a common thing, it's very, very rare.
I do not agree with that doctor who said: who cares? cares greatly for those who do not want to be bald.
PS: I love all animals are alive, especially chinchillas.


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#62374 - 05/10/09 05:15 AM Re: Regrowth charts [Re: Andrea]
lefty2g , LE, CPE Offline
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I once asked Fino about the length of time it took to remove hair from an upper lip (this was at an AEA convention where he was showing his now famous tape with Regis Philbin). This was because he told Regis a very LOW MOUNT OF TIME (I DO NOT REMEBER THE EXACT TIME NOW AS IT WAS MANY YEARS AGO but I do remember the incident). His answer to me was, "You have to tell him something". My reply to him was, "Yes, but it should be the TRUTH." I lost all faith in him at that time.

I have to admit he is an EXCELLENT PROMOTER OF HIMSELF. I can not speak to his excellence as an electrologist any more than anyone else can speak of any other electrologist unless you actually see them work on a few patients over an extended time.

He started in Pennsylvania where there was no licensing at that time. He moved to NY where there is no licensing of electrologists then and I believe to this day. I never found out where he learned electrolysis or if he even went to any school for this. However,I CAN SAY, he is an excellent promoter of himself.

He speaks of having people visit him from all over the world and return every few weeks for repeat treatments. I have difficulty with that one. I also have patients from all over the world but I NEVER SAID they came only to see me. It was because my practice was in an extremely heavy college student area with thousands of students from about twenty very large schools. They were in the Boston area to go to school not just to visit me, but I TOO had patients from all over the world also. THAT IS THE TRUTH.

HE ALSO MAINTAINS HE IS A PUBLISHED AUTHOR. Anyone can do it as he has done. You just write a book and find a printer to publish it. When you pay him it will be PRINTED NOT PUBLISHED. YOU HAVE TO SELL IT YOURSELF.
THE DEMAND FOR BOOKS ON ELECTROLOGY IS NOT HEAVY ENOUGH TO WARRANT PUBLISHERS TO SEEK OUT SOMEONE TO WRITE SUCH A BOOK AND RISK THIS IN THE HOPES IT WILL SELL. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF EGO MANIACS WHO WILL DO THIS BUT IT IS VERY EXPENSIVE. THEN YOU HAVE TO SELL IT YOURSELF.


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#62377 - 05/10/09 05:18 PM Re: Regrowth charts [Re: lefty2g , LE, CPE]
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Lefty, dear, these are your words to me from the 'Questions' thread dated April 29,2009:

".............By-the-way, if you are willing to BAD MOUTH other electrologists you have to be prepared to get it in return. If you never noticed.... I never mention any other electrologist by name or city where they practice because it is UNETHICAL and NOT PROFESSIONAL............."

Now, how do you think Fino and his family would feel reading these words on an open forum??? He's not even having a conversation with you here to warrant such mean response. I know you were responding to Andrea's post from 2002 about his regrowth chart data, thus the topici of this thread. I'm sure his kids and wife love him, same as your family love you and it is most hurtful to discover that someone has sucker-punched a loved one. You really should be careful with your words or someone may SUE YOU for defamation. (You always bring up the word 'SUE', so I thought this is an appropriate situation to also mention that here.) Some feelings are better left unsaid. I don't personally know Fino, but I feel sorry for him right now.
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#62384 - 05/11/09 02:54 AM Re: Regrowth charts [Re: dfahey]
James W. Walker VII Offline

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Well, since it has been brought up, I will restate (as it is on this board elsewhere) my biggest beef with Fino's numbers are the fact that it is not good for the industry if everyone is expecting their local talent to duplicate his work.

People come on this site with the expectation that finding someone to do this work for them should be as easy as throwing a dart at the page in the phone book that lists Electrolysis. It takes much reading here for them to realize that this site would not exist if it were that easy.

The good thing about all this is that I can say that I have seen Fino work, and he has worked on me and what ever he tells you, he has done. Of course, since there are those who say that I am a tackling of Daunte Culpepper behind the line of scrimmage (Now there is an euphemism that will make those who get it laugh, while those who don't scratch their heads), many won't believe me. I do my best to point out that the reason we beg people to see lots of practitioners before settling in with anyone is the fact that your experience will be variable. This is one thing that I learned from Fino's example. I never say that what I do is what everyone should expect, and I don't even say that what I do is the best anyone should expect. It just seems that I am labeled a shameless self-promoter if I say that my work is better than some, and worse than few.

(...ok, I will give you a hint, Daunte Culpepper is the quarterback of the Detroit Lions... Wise man say, "He who laughs last, didn't get the joke)
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#64975 - 08/16/09 03:06 AM Re: Regrowth charts [Re: James W. Walker VII]
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Another question to add to the regrowth pile ... is there a difference between white hairs and colored hairs? The white ones seem to always come out either as telogen (clean as a whistle, right?) or with a narley rough sheath, and no bulb. How long does it take to convince a white hair to stop growing back?

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#64979 - 08/16/09 11:55 AM Re: Regrowth charts [Re: Ehpstein]
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One can kill a white hair with one treatment, if the treatment is done well. The difference is that white hairs are usually deeper and have a thicker growth matrix than its colored kin. (incidentally, thiamin, riboflavin and pantothenic acid are supposed to be good at keeping white hairs off your head, but you need to be sure that your Vitamin E and C levels are good first... and that you don't smoke.)
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#66383 - 10/03/09 08:46 AM Re: Regrowth charts [Re: James W. Walker VII]
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just a question. if only 10% of your eyebrow hair is in anagen growth phase then that means that 90% of your eyebrow hairs is in resting phase? so you only see around 10% of your eyebrow hair at a time? i'm asking because I have a friend who has overplucked her eyebrows and wants to try using rogaine on them to thicken them up. any information would be helpful. thanks!!


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#66385 - 10/03/09 09:32 AM Re: Regrowth charts [Re: ]
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I would strongly advise your friend not to use rogaine. Only the stronger type is effective, and it stimulates hair all over the face, not just where you apply it. Three months after using it, the stimulant effect subsides. I have had several clients who have had a very miserable time, after using this. It seems to have a very powerful effect on the area between the hairline and the upper eyebrow. The hairline virtually joins the brow.
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#66398 - 10/04/09 04:57 AM Re: Regrowth charts [Re: C O'Connell]
Jacksandmarbles Offline
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yes, but my question was: according to these growth charts are only 10% of your eyebrow hairs growing on the surface of your skin and 90% in telogen resting phase. as in do you only see 10% of your eyebrow hairs. If you keep using rogaine then the stimulant effect will not subside and if she grows unwanted hair then it would be easy to just have that removed.

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#66625 - 10/13/09 09:59 PM Re: Regrowth charts [Re: ]
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Registered: 05/17/09
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Her eyebrows will be the least of her troubles if she uses rogaine. Please do a proper search on rogaine induced FACIAL hair growth.
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