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#97421 - 04/02/12 08:00 PM Re: Paradoxical Laser Hair Stimulation [Re: Meemz514]
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Stopit&tidyup Do you know any good Electrologists in London?

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#97427 - 04/02/12 10:52 PM Re: Paradoxical Laser Hair Stimulation [Re: Meemz514]
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Loc: Hattersheim, Germany
Originally Posted By: Meemz514
How about if you do laser and apply Vaniqa? Would that help?


One of my clients suffers from induced hair growth caused by vaniqua.

Anyway: vaniqa reduces hair growth only during the time it is applied regularly. "Reduces" does often just mean that the hair is growing slower.
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#97428 - 04/02/12 11:00 PM Re: Paradoxical Laser Hair Stimulation [Re: beate_r]
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Beate r. Thanks for the information! My dermatologist told me that it can't make matters worse. I was a bit suspicious. Thanks for setting that straight.

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#97430 - 04/02/12 11:06 PM Re: Paradoxical Laser Hair Stimulation [Re: beate_r]
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Loc: London, UK
Meemz,

My electrologist in London was Sharon at Parkside Beauty Centre.

http://www.hairtell.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/97043/Mark831.html#Post97043
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Laser for reduction on Underarms, Bikini, Full Legs & 3/4 Arms. Skin type IV
Electrolysis - Further details in: My sister's electrolysis diary
[27hrs of Blend, April 2008-Dec 2010 in UK, for coarse hair on lower sideburns, coarse chin hair, completed upper lip, shaped eyebrows]
[Sept 2011 to date, once yearly sessions with Josefa. Completed reduction of facial/neck fuzz in approx 27 hrs TTT]

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#97433 - 04/03/12 02:27 AM Re: Paradoxical Laser Hair Stimulation [Re: beate_r]
dfahey Offline

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Registered: 10/27/03
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Loc: Columbus, Ohio
Originally Posted By: beate_r


One of my clients suffers from induced hair growth caused by vaniqua.


Wowee! This is the first time I heard this! Is this your client's personal conclusion? This should be reported. I believe there is a form on the FDA website to do this? Or, maybe the prescribing physician should be told? I am really curious about this one. I can't find anything on the internet so far about this, Beate. It is not a life threatening side effect, but if you think this should be reported, here is some information:

Report Problems to the Food and Drug Administration
 You are encouraged to report negative side effects of prescription drugs to the FDA. Visit the FDA MedWatch website or call 1-800-FDA-1088.

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Dee Fahey, R.N., C.T.
Licensed by the State Medical Board of Ohio for Nursing license and Cosmetic Therapy/Electrolysis license
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http://www.electrolysis.co.uk/?page_id=16

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#98273 - 04/30/12 07:44 AM Re: Paradoxical Laser Hair Stimulation [Re: dfahey]
mhawkes Offline

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I don't think PLHS is that rare, as an electrologist having returned to Scotland just over a year ago, and now working mainly on Celtic skin types I have already encounter this kind of promoted hair growth. I have had 5 clients so far with this problem. Laser/ipl not sure which, seems to cause this problem on the neck and sideburn area, typical hair growth that I have seen from PLHS is fine long and dark. Will be interesting to see if the scientists can come up with any answers?
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Specialising in marathon sessions
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Fully licensed by Argyll and Bute Council UK.
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#98274 - 04/30/12 01:34 PM Re: Paradoxical Laser Hair Stimulation [Re: mhawkes]
dfahey Offline

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Loc: Columbus, Ohio
I see this enough times where I would not label it as rare. I also see fabulous results with LASER, which makes my job easier. Clients need to be INFORMED of the possibility that this may or may not happen and then be willing to invest more time, money and effort in electrolysis to clean up the extra hair.
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Licensed by the State Medical Board of Ohio for Nursing license and Cosmetic Therapy/Electrolysis license
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ELECTROLYSIS FAQ'S:

British Institute & Association of Electrolysis

http://www.electrolysis.co.uk/?page_id=16

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#98275 - 04/30/12 03:23 PM Re: Paradoxical Laser Hair Stimulation [Re: dfahey]
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Registered: 01/23/11
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Loc: oban scotland uk
Many clients have had successful laser treatments. Though many are also spending too many years having treatments without making progress. I agree Dee the public have to be better informed, thank goodness for websites like this.
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mairi hawkes Apilus Platinum. Trained and worked in Uk and Australia
Specialising in marathon sessions
HND electrolysis qualified 1993

Fully licensed by Argyll and Bute Council UK.
www.aeclinic.co.uk

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#99053 - 05/30/12 03:34 PM Re: Paradoxical Laser Hair Stimulation [Re: mhawkes]
carljung Offline
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Registered: 03/09/12
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Can more laser get rid of paradoxical laser hair stimulation or is the new hair untreatable?

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#99055 - 05/30/12 03:41 PM Re: Paradoxical Laser Hair Stimulation [Re: carljung]
stoppit&tidyup Offline
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Loc: London, UK
Laser places will tell you 'yes'.

I have not come across anyone who has experienced this and then found further laser improves the situation. And I know a number of people who carried on for a year or more after already going through a course of treatments which lead to laser induced growth.
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31/F/UK
Laser for reduction on Underarms, Bikini, Full Legs & 3/4 Arms. Skin type IV
Electrolysis - Further details in: My sister's electrolysis diary
[27hrs of Blend, April 2008-Dec 2010 in UK, for coarse hair on lower sideburns, coarse chin hair, completed upper lip, shaped eyebrows]
[Sept 2011 to date, once yearly sessions with Josefa. Completed reduction of facial/neck fuzz in approx 27 hrs TTT]

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