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#108713 - 08/31/13 09:16 AM Re: REPORT LASER HAIR STIMULATION [Re: lyrical]
lyrical Offline
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Registered: 08/28/13
Posts: 77
Loc: Portugal
Here are some pictures I took of my chin. This is 7 weeks after laser:

http://tinypic.com/r/hv9yew/5

http://tinypic.com/r/iz2mbq/5

http://tinypic.com/r/20h7rky/5


Edited by lyrical (08/31/13 09:30 AM)
Edit Reason: ImageShack fails
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Female, 1987, PT. Fitzpatrick Scale: II. Mediterranean descendency.

Diagnosed with Hashimoto thyroiditis in October 2013.
Taking 50 mg of Levothyroxine daily. Birth control pill Denille.

Victim of paradoxical hair stimulation by laser on chin area.

LHR (GentleLase):

8 sessions on upper lip. Fine dark hairs still visible.

1 session on underarms, bikini line, lower legs. Ongoing.

Electrolysis: started on November 30 2013. [Thermolysis] Chin area (black hair), cheeks (lighter hair slowly going terminal). Most hairs removed have white roots.

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#108943 - 09/10/13 10:12 PM Re: REPORT LASER HAIR STIMULATION [Re: lyrical]
LAgirl Offline

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Registered: 12/22/04
Posts: 9994
Loc: New York, NY
Hard to tell much without "before" pictures.

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#109783 - 10/13/13 05:40 PM Re: REPORT LASER HAIR STIMULATION [Re: LAgirl]
Adam89 Offline
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Registered: 02/24/13
Posts: 3
Gender: Male

Age: 24

Date you started treatment: Febb 2013

Hair color: Black

Color of Skin: Brown

Hair Structure:

Area(s) treated: Back/ Shoulders/ Arms

Name of LASER or IPL: Nd: YAG

Treatment settings, if known:

Skin reaction:

Shedding? after 4/6 weeks

Did you report increased hair growth to your laser specialist?

I'm trying to figure it out

Before and After pictures?

Pre session 1:

http://s1017.photobucket.com/user/allthatjazz10/library/pre%20session%201

Pre session 2:

http://s1017.photobucket.com/user/allthatjazz10/library/pre%20session%202

Pre session 3:

http://s1017.photobucket.com/user/allthatjazz10/library/pre%20session%203

Other comments.


I'm considering whether I should go for another treatment session. I can say for sure that I have seen a reduction on my forearms (40%), however I believe that I may be experiencing induced hair growth on upper arms, and can't be sure about my back.

Any opinions to help me decide on whether to go for another appointment will be very helpful.
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#109784 - 10/13/13 06:21 PM Re: REPORT LASER HAIR STIMULATION [Re: Adam89]
Mihai Offline
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Registered: 08/16/13
Posts: 9
Hi.

Adam89, what skin type are you?

Why did you used an ND:YAG and not an Alexandrite laser?

Do you know the settings that used on you (spot size, joules)?

Thx.

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#116565 - 12/16/14 10:00 PM Re: REPORT LASER HAIR STIMULATION [Re: prettysure]
Alex S. Offline
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Registered: 11/21/14
Posts: 11
Gender: Male

Age: 26

Date you started treatment: Feburary 2013

Hair color: Black facial hair, body hair; hair on my head is dark brown.

Color of Skin: Naturally, I'm Olive-skinned but very tanned since I lived in FL since '09.

Hair Structure: Not sure. My facial hairs are SOOO thick and close together. To make an illustration, imagine rubbing on sandpaper - that's what my hairs on my chin feel after a day or two of not shaving.

Area(s) treated: Face (cheeks, chin, jaw, neck)

Name of LASER or IPL: Candela

Treatment settings I'm unfamiliar with, but in regards to my problem (the chin hairs that can't be zapped) my technician goes over those spots twice!

Skin reaction: My face appears red for the rest of the day and I get small bumps, but it all disappears the following day at night. I have clear skin, thankfully.

Shedding? Nothing noticeable.

Did you report increased hair growth to your laser specialist? Oh, yeah.

Before and After pictures? I can't upload pictures here on my iPhone...

I first started treatments in Feburary 2013 at South Florida's only facility with a lifetime guarantee (unlimited treatments). I've done a total of twenty-one treatments and counting, to date, on my face and I'm still going. Before I started treatments, my whole face was basically sandpaper - now it's smooth as ever, except on my CHIN - there's two fairly large patches on both sides that are still sandpaper-like and thick, coarse hair that are dot-like and close together. It's like rubbing on sandpaper (my dad had the same issue).

Everywhere else on my face has proven successful, though I do feel stimulation on my mustache (stubbly hair that won't grow out), a few fine thin hairs that barely grow on the side of the cheek. At this point, I don't care if hairs grow back so long as it's fine hairs (though I'm skeptical if I shave, I'm back to square one). My main goal now is to get rid of those patchy areas on my chin. A lot of people think it's a birthmark, others seem shocked that I'm only able to grow hair on the side of my chin - this has forced me to always shave - my hairs grow back insanely fast.

I'm just learning the fundamentals of LHR and for years I've been so self-conscious of my own hairs that I've decided to make a career as a laser technician (I study alternative health). On February 2015, I'll be set for my first electrology appointments, let's hope that it can get rid of these hairs.



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#119147 - 08/10/15 10:41 PM Re: REPORT LASER HAIR STIMULATION [Re: dfahey]
jeannie17 Offline
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Registered: 04/11/12
Posts: 29
Female, late 20th.

Laser: GentleLase, spot size 20 mm, energy 12 j

Area: Chin

Never had any hair on my neck or on that area between the jaw line and the neck -- not sure about the terminology..) Stupid laser tech wanted to seem generous and in addition to my chin lasered the area under the chin and the portion of the neck. I stopped her when it was too late (the spot size was 20 mm and with just a few zips she covered a lot). Result: now I'm struggling with those ugly hair on my under-chin area which are very difficult to remove with electrolysis (hair grow in different weird directions and skin is so thin that the needle breaks it and the area bleeds...((

P.S.: Is there a "black list" of bad clinics on the website? -- I'd be glad to add that clinic (every treatment with them was a major screw up)

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#119154 - 08/11/15 03:47 PM Re: REPORT LASER HAIR STIMULATION [Re: jeannie17]
beate_r Offline

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Registered: 07/25/05
Posts: 890
Loc: Hattersheim, Germany
Originally Posted By jeannie17
... ugly hair on my under-chin area which are very difficult to remove with electrolysis (hair grow in different weird directions and skin is so thin that the needle breaks it and the area bleeds...


There is a position of strong overstretching where this area can easily be reached. Not too comfortable (i know it also as a client of electrolysis), but highly efficient. No bleeding - which should only occur for at most a few stitches and is in most cases a mistake of the electrologist - and thanks to the stretching of the skin and the fact that it is thin the energy can often be greatly reduced without losing any efficiency.
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#119156 - 08/11/15 07:45 PM Re: REPORT LASER HAIR STIMULATION [Re: beate_r]
jeannie17 Offline
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Registered: 04/11/12
Posts: 29
Originally Posted By beate_r
No bleeding - which should only occur for at most a few stitches and is in most cases a mistake of the electrologist


Thank you! So it's most likely the electrologist's mistake? I suspected that she was probably doing some things wrong. I even created a separate topic www.hairtell.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/119155/chin:_weekly_treatment.html

Could you please explain what mistake is that? Is it the angle she inserts the needle at creates the bleeding or something else?

She also told me that she buys the cheapest needles that are not very good.

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#119174 - 08/18/15 06:26 PM Re: REPORT LASER HAIR STIMULATION [Re: jeannie17]
dfahey Offline

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Registered: 10/27/03
Posts: 9607
Loc: Columbus, Ohio
No, there isn't a "black list" on bad clinics on this website.

Over the years we have heard these kind of complaints.

I tell my clients not to lase their faces and necks. Too risky for laser hair stimulation. Whatever hair is stimulated, though, can be treated permanently by an electrologist. People do resent spending more money and using their time to go through the electrolysis process, since they thought laser hair reduction would be the answer to their problem.

Sorry you had this happen to you.
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Dee Fahey, R.N., C.T.
Licensed by the State Medical Board of Ohio for Nursing license and Cosmetic Therapy/Electrolysis license
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British Institute & Association of Electrolysis

http://www.electrolysis.co.uk/?page_id=16

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#119179 - 08/19/15 10:48 AM Re: REPORT LASER HAIR STIMULATION [Re: dfahey]
Helen1983 Offline
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Registered: 08/28/13
Posts: 301
Laser is good for female hair legs bikini under arms, electrolyisis is good for male prone hair like upper lip chin around the nipples anything that is brought on by male testosterone or too little osetrogen.
Using temp meathods on these can end up stimulating the hair, electrolysis offers reduction not perminant unless you kill these hairs they will grow back more like weeds.

Another think to consider is the probe size electrolysis uses an extremely thin neddle to go into each individual hair follicle to kill it, when using a laser probe you are hitting area's where there are no hairs or the hair is too light in order to treat an area which has dark hair, those areas are going to get stimilated, this is why it needs to be a thick bushy area like bikini and legs under arm to work best.


Edited by Helen1983 (08/19/15 10:49 AM)

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